He could probably have conveyed his message differently
hamstar_potato on
Again, the obsession with children.
t0xic_sh0t on
That’ll convince them.
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bleugh777 on
I doubt many people born in France would want to die for France, especially when we know it would probably serve some politician’s agenda and not a greater good.
CrispsInTabascoSauce on
France is a scared chicken, soon will be without its head and paralysed by pure chaos and populism.
Yes, there is direct danger from the nazis ruzzia but everyone is still turning a blind eye to that and not doing anything.
Ukraine is taking a massive hit and in fact is a shield which is protecting Europe from swaths of rabid barbarians. But Europe is not grateful enough, we probably will never see French troops in Ukraine. We would sooner see rabid barbarians in France.
Delmarquis38 on
Hello,
Non
Goodbye
suicidemachine on
The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his.
AdviceFit1692 on
Someone mastered PR..
airhome_ on
No way people will grasp the subtlety. When people signal they are ready to stand on the line together and credibly signal „one more step and you will be fighting all of Europe“, Russia will weigh up our economic and demographic strength and back down.
When people telegraph very clearly they are not prepared to take any risk, as NATO did with Ukraine, Russia will judge that if push comes to shove we will back down and we can be victimized as smaller nations one by one.
Its an extension of „if you want peace, prepare for war“. I kind of thought we learnt this lesson with Mr Hitler and Mr Wilhelm who both misjudged Britain’s willingness to stand with France. But it seems to have been forgotten.
I also find it kind of revolting the implication from people’s reactions that soldiers are fine to die („its their job“), but the idea that the rest of us should ever suffer is unthinkable. Many soldiers are 18, 19, 20 year old kids with their lives ahead of them – we should be fine that they die while 30, 40, 50 year old blokes sit happily at home and go on with life as normal. Yuck.
Adept_of_Yoga on
France is generally not known to be the most effective at full scale war. But they tend to loose their men nevertheless.
Remarkable_Towel_967 on
Majority of French youth come from foreign backgrounds and most have no loyalty or patriotic feelings to France, so good luck getting them to sign up to go fight Russia
blokader01 on
OK, your kids first ☺️
camillevolp on
When he talks about the children of France, they talk about its soldiers. People take it all at face value, like it’s generalized conscription…
Kypsys on
Agree, but French billionaires should also accept loosing 2% of their monstruous fortunes to help
(Its about Zuckman law proposal, that was rebuked because „oh the rich are going to leave, we can’t ask them that, but instead lets remove two holidays)
GremlinX_ll on
At least someone understands that shit can go kinetic at somepoint (or not) and that Bunker Grandpa is not a rational actor. Better late then never, right ?
4uk4ata on
Yes, if there is war, someone’s children will be killed. That is why we shouldn’t go to war *heedlessly*.
That does not mean not going to war *ever.*
Trotsky_Enjoyer on
Yes, more blood sacrifices for the dark lords known as BAE systems, Elbit systems and Raytheon.
SpiderDK1 on
The price of cheap gas, oil, etc. from russia in past…
Qdawwg on
Allons enfants de la patrie, le jour de gloire est arrivé!
NoInfluence315 on
They already are losing their children because their government won’t fight for them. No war with Russia needed.
Mysterious-Ant849 on
No shelf respecting gen z male is dying for a country that has abandoned them. I am joining russia before that.
07Ghost_Protocol99 on
Thankfully France has plenty of young military aged males who have recently settled there and can now prove their love for their new mother country.
Canard_De_Bagdad on
I’m French, feel like a patriot (*something I strongly separate from the far-right traitors staining that term*), but this grand statement made me angry.
How do they believe we, the people, will have a high morale in case of war, consider how our elites are behaving like weasels and mercenaries licking the billionaires asses? Do they somehow believe a society of inequalities and „might makes right“ can foster strength and citizenship, a sense of duty? They can go impale themselves on Dubaï chocolate for all I care.
I could fight for my country, no problem with that, and I mean it seriously. But then it means I expect respect in return. For me, for the retirees who workers their ass off for decades, for the public education of our children, for the farmers, for my buddies being unfairly racialized, molested for free by the police, or discriminated against. Respect first, then *after* we can talk about pulling the next Crimea War campaign.
Movilitero on
he has 3 kids. He should enroll them in the army ASAP
Future-Can-1452 on
Russia will never come to France. They can’t even take Donetsk oblast. Mass mobilization in western Europe is very unlikely to be needed. More likely is mass mobilization in Poland and Baltics + professional military from other countries.
MaseratiBiturbo on
„Besser rot Wie tot“ was the west german left slogan in the 70’s. Guess who bankrolled them?
Practical_Pear8373 on
People need to get more serious, Russia is attacking and advancing in ukrainian territory for almost 4 years now, they are threatening and attacking verbally its neighbours and other european countries every day. They want to destroy the ukrainian language and culture, and also the source of what made ukrainians revolt against their corrupt russian puppet government, Europe and the values of freedom and equality before the law it represents. I never thought I would say this a few years ago, but war isn’t even likely, it will be necessary for our defence.
BergderZwerg on
Better to die in battle than to die in a Gulag. If those orcs come here, they should get an appropriate fiery welcome. At least then we’d get rid of the traitors/ ruzzian agents as they are the first to flee or switch sides. Old traditions of town decoration might make a comeback.
bandita07 on
I’m not sure we need to go to the trenches facing the ruskies. We need 1000 tactical nukes in Europe and thousands of high precision cruise missiles with its own navigation system (not gps, etc). And if the ruskies dare to attack just unleash these on moscow, st petersburg…
New_Needleworker994 on
Nobody wants to, and nobody should have to die for Ukraine. Russia could annex the whole damn thing and life would continue as normal.
Beat_Saber_Music on
Unless parents are gonna volunteer to the army in sufficient numbers and the army chooses to employ older people, than it is the youth who will have to serve and end up as casualties.
Here in Finland most men finish mandatory 6-12 months military service at around 18. Unless the army chooses to use older men who did their service decades rather than years ago, then the numerically minute youth will be the ones paying the price of defending our freedoms as a nation.
NoAbrocoma9357 on
What he *really* meant was France’s *poor* children.
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Hopefully they don’t lose their country.
Again.
He could probably have conveyed his message differently
Again, the obsession with children.
That’ll convince them.
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I doubt many people born in France would want to die for France, especially when we know it would probably serve some politician’s agenda and not a greater good.
France is a scared chicken, soon will be without its head and paralysed by pure chaos and populism.
Yes, there is direct danger from the nazis ruzzia but everyone is still turning a blind eye to that and not doing anything.
Ukraine is taking a massive hit and in fact is a shield which is protecting Europe from swaths of rabid barbarians. But Europe is not grateful enough, we probably will never see French troops in Ukraine. We would sooner see rabid barbarians in France.
Hello,
Non
Goodbye
The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his.
Someone mastered PR..
No way people will grasp the subtlety. When people signal they are ready to stand on the line together and credibly signal „one more step and you will be fighting all of Europe“, Russia will weigh up our economic and demographic strength and back down.
When people telegraph very clearly they are not prepared to take any risk, as NATO did with Ukraine, Russia will judge that if push comes to shove we will back down and we can be victimized as smaller nations one by one.
Its an extension of „if you want peace, prepare for war“. I kind of thought we learnt this lesson with Mr Hitler and Mr Wilhelm who both misjudged Britain’s willingness to stand with France. But it seems to have been forgotten.
I also find it kind of revolting the implication from people’s reactions that soldiers are fine to die („its their job“), but the idea that the rest of us should ever suffer is unthinkable. Many soldiers are 18, 19, 20 year old kids with their lives ahead of them – we should be fine that they die while 30, 40, 50 year old blokes sit happily at home and go on with life as normal. Yuck.
France is generally not known to be the most effective at full scale war. But they tend to loose their men nevertheless.
Majority of French youth come from foreign backgrounds and most have no loyalty or patriotic feelings to France, so good luck getting them to sign up to go fight Russia
OK, your kids first ☺️
When he talks about the children of France, they talk about its soldiers. People take it all at face value, like it’s generalized conscription…
Agree, but French billionaires should also accept loosing 2% of their monstruous fortunes to help
(Its about Zuckman law proposal, that was rebuked because „oh the rich are going to leave, we can’t ask them that, but instead lets remove two holidays)
At least someone understands that shit can go kinetic at somepoint (or not) and that Bunker Grandpa is not a rational actor. Better late then never, right ?
Yes, if there is war, someone’s children will be killed. That is why we shouldn’t go to war *heedlessly*.
That does not mean not going to war *ever.*
Yes, more blood sacrifices for the dark lords known as BAE systems, Elbit systems and Raytheon.
The price of cheap gas, oil, etc. from russia in past…
Allons enfants de la patrie, le jour de gloire est arrivé!
They already are losing their children because their government won’t fight for them. No war with Russia needed.
No shelf respecting gen z male is dying for a country that has abandoned them. I am joining russia before that.
Thankfully France has plenty of young military aged males who have recently settled there and can now prove their love for their new mother country.
I’m French, feel like a patriot (*something I strongly separate from the far-right traitors staining that term*), but this grand statement made me angry.
How do they believe we, the people, will have a high morale in case of war, consider how our elites are behaving like weasels and mercenaries licking the billionaires asses? Do they somehow believe a society of inequalities and „might makes right“ can foster strength and citizenship, a sense of duty? They can go impale themselves on Dubaï chocolate for all I care.
I could fight for my country, no problem with that, and I mean it seriously. But then it means I expect respect in return. For me, for the retirees who workers their ass off for decades, for the public education of our children, for the farmers, for my buddies being unfairly racialized, molested for free by the police, or discriminated against. Respect first, then *after* we can talk about pulling the next Crimea War campaign.
he has 3 kids. He should enroll them in the army ASAP
Russia will never come to France. They can’t even take Donetsk oblast. Mass mobilization in western Europe is very unlikely to be needed. More likely is mass mobilization in Poland and Baltics + professional military from other countries.
„Besser rot Wie tot“ was the west german left slogan in the 70’s. Guess who bankrolled them?
People need to get more serious, Russia is attacking and advancing in ukrainian territory for almost 4 years now, they are threatening and attacking verbally its neighbours and other european countries every day. They want to destroy the ukrainian language and culture, and also the source of what made ukrainians revolt against their corrupt russian puppet government, Europe and the values of freedom and equality before the law it represents. I never thought I would say this a few years ago, but war isn’t even likely, it will be necessary for our defence.
Better to die in battle than to die in a Gulag. If those orcs come here, they should get an appropriate fiery welcome. At least then we’d get rid of the traitors/ ruzzian agents as they are the first to flee or switch sides. Old traditions of town decoration might make a comeback.
I’m not sure we need to go to the trenches facing the ruskies. We need 1000 tactical nukes in Europe and thousands of high precision cruise missiles with its own navigation system (not gps, etc). And if the ruskies dare to attack just unleash these on moscow, st petersburg…
Nobody wants to, and nobody should have to die for Ukraine. Russia could annex the whole damn thing and life would continue as normal.
Unless parents are gonna volunteer to the army in sufficient numbers and the army chooses to employ older people, than it is the youth who will have to serve and end up as casualties.
Here in Finland most men finish mandatory 6-12 months military service at around 18. Unless the army chooses to use older men who did their service decades rather than years ago, then the numerically minute youth will be the ones paying the price of defending our freedoms as a nation.
What he *really* meant was France’s *poor* children.