Heck, even Ukraine is having a tough time getting a seat! It’s so messed up
ZyronZA on
Fully agree that the EU and Ukraine must have a seat at the table, but it’s going to be hard to get one because everyone knows russia wants to invade another European country in the near future.
ClassicMatt101 on
A plan to give Russia everything they want is not a plan to end the war. It’s a plan to start new ones.
firthy on
As they should.
wwarnout on
Given how disloyal Trump has acted toward most of America’s allies, the US should not have a seat at the table.
Old-Information5623 on
Russia is your neighbor in the EU. Why are you all still talking and not having already set the table, set your requirements to end the conflict and had negotiations between the EU, Russia and Ukraine?
Because the EU is great at talking but not at doing!!!!!!
Odd-Professor-5309 on
This war affects Ukraine and Europe.
Who would think that it’s OK for neither of them to be at the negotiations ?
unguibus_et_rostro on
If they were strong enough, they wouldn’t need to demand such things.
OctoMatter on
Trump and Putin can meet and there’s nothing to prevent it. What the EU can do is ignore whatever deal they make (if they deem it undesirable)
Dangerous-Cry1785 on
As an outsider just observing, with Trump as president you can really see how much power and say the US have with their allies. He is so transparent with it. With Biden or Obama, I thought the EU is of equal standing but with Trump the power dynamics is so different.
christian_l33 on
Why do the US and Russia get to decide the fate of a sovereign nation? Putin and Trump are going to carve it up and give it to themselves.
Glittering_Wind_4372 on
Well, haven’t we seen similar situations before? Just a few months ago, Putin and Trump held a meeting to discuss a ceasefire. At that time, they left Europe out in the cold and completely ignored Europe’s demand for a ceasefire before negotiations. Europe should abandon some of its naive ideas. Since a ceasefire is not in Putin’s interests, he won’t agree to it. In terms of pressuring Russia, Europe and the United States have imposed tens of thousands of sanctions on Russia, so there won’t be any further measures. In terms of aiding Ukraine, Trump reduced aid to Ukraine because he didn’t want to lose money. So now, this military expenditure is mainly borne by Europe. In fact, it’s making Europe bleed. You can tell just by looking at how eager they are to use the frozen Russian assets. However, Europe’s military – industrial industry is weak, with high manufacturing costs and low military stockpiles. Buying from the United States is also very expensive. So spending a lot of money doesn’t achieve good results. Meanwhile, the Ukrainians are desperately losing ground. So the conditions Putin offers must include the goals he hopes to achieve in the future, which Europe can’t accept. At the same time, there are many European countries with different opinions. Participating in the negotiations would actually hinder the peace talks. So neither Russia nor the United States wants Europe to get involved.
Rap_hae_L_Kim on
The EU countries were also under indirect influence, so there seems to be reason to attend.
Leave A Reply
Du musst angemeldet sein, um einen Kommentar abzugeben.
13 Kommentare
Heck, even Ukraine is having a tough time getting a seat! It’s so messed up
Fully agree that the EU and Ukraine must have a seat at the table, but it’s going to be hard to get one because everyone knows russia wants to invade another European country in the near future.
A plan to give Russia everything they want is not a plan to end the war. It’s a plan to start new ones.
As they should.
Given how disloyal Trump has acted toward most of America’s allies, the US should not have a seat at the table.
Russia is your neighbor in the EU. Why are you all still talking and not having already set the table, set your requirements to end the conflict and had negotiations between the EU, Russia and Ukraine?
Because the EU is great at talking but not at doing!!!!!!
This war affects Ukraine and Europe.
Who would think that it’s OK for neither of them to be at the negotiations ?
If they were strong enough, they wouldn’t need to demand such things.
Trump and Putin can meet and there’s nothing to prevent it. What the EU can do is ignore whatever deal they make (if they deem it undesirable)
As an outsider just observing, with Trump as president you can really see how much power and say the US have with their allies. He is so transparent with it. With Biden or Obama, I thought the EU is of equal standing but with Trump the power dynamics is so different.
Why do the US and Russia get to decide the fate of a sovereign nation? Putin and Trump are going to carve it up and give it to themselves.
Well, haven’t we seen similar situations before? Just a few months ago, Putin and Trump held a meeting to discuss a ceasefire. At that time, they left Europe out in the cold and completely ignored Europe’s demand for a ceasefire before negotiations. Europe should abandon some of its naive ideas. Since a ceasefire is not in Putin’s interests, he won’t agree to it. In terms of pressuring Russia, Europe and the United States have imposed tens of thousands of sanctions on Russia, so there won’t be any further measures. In terms of aiding Ukraine, Trump reduced aid to Ukraine because he didn’t want to lose money. So now, this military expenditure is mainly borne by Europe. In fact, it’s making Europe bleed. You can tell just by looking at how eager they are to use the frozen Russian assets. However, Europe’s military – industrial industry is weak, with high manufacturing costs and low military stockpiles. Buying from the United States is also very expensive. So spending a lot of money doesn’t achieve good results. Meanwhile, the Ukrainians are desperately losing ground. So the conditions Putin offers must include the goals he hopes to achieve in the future, which Europe can’t accept. At the same time, there are many European countries with different opinions. Participating in the negotiations would actually hinder the peace talks. So neither Russia nor the United States wants Europe to get involved.
The EU countries were also under indirect influence, so there seems to be reason to attend.