>While the Social Democrats remain the largest municipal party in Denmark, the prime minister’s centre-left party lost more than five percentage points across the country in Tuesday night’s municipal and regional elections, dropping from 28.4% in 2021 to 23.2%
Many parties are very happy if these are already „sweeping election losses“.
greenway-blackington on
The media wants us to fear getting wiped out if we go too far left. Screw them the train has left the station.
Bonamikengue on
This is the problem everywhere in the West. If you adopt far right positions to please voters, more people will vote for the far right („the original“ in this case) but you lose your core voters not being far right.
In Germany it is the CDU/CSU union repeating this. Their popularity goes down while AfD is up in polls. Every time CDU/CSU adopts an AfD talking point (mostly immigration and islam) they lose more in polls and „the original“ AfD goes up.
You cannot win elections adopting talking points of the far right.
In the US the Democrats are also following this trap in their suggestion to adopt anti-lgbtiq/anti-trans „No men in womens‘ sports!“-themes „to regain the center“ – without realizing that doing this, they will completely go down as people would vote even more the GOP – „the original“.
FTP4L1VE on
Chat control.
Select-Cash-4906 on
I’m already seeing people claim it’s because if the migration policies they lost, blatantly ignoring the other facts
One their migration policies remain popular the actually reasons for their other policies
Two, A Big reason was as the EU presidential leaders they tried to do that awful Chat Control bill with extreme severity despite open corruption mentioned by many third parties
Three, The government has allowed inflation to get out of control, broke promises on the environmental glls they said they would do and the fact is any government gets unpopular after a while
Four, they failed to keep their environmental promises and goals, the are still way too dependant on gas and oil and this alienated a lot of Greens
But already we see people reduce this to single issues
It’s not migration which statistically remains popular, its the fact they are in power too long and other failures and scandals about overreach
Edit: aslo seeing the collapse of many old parties across the world due to crisis of living costs worldwide 5% losses are not actually that bad, it could have been worse, its not as if they were destroyed like the SPD in Germany or Conservatives in Britain
Also the fact that the fst right remains puny and migration was “not” a major issue in the election proves its success. Naturally through this is overlooked
So can they stop proposing chat control every few months now or … ?
Sub__Finem on
Oh, the authoritarians pushing chat-control and limiting movement/personal freedom are losing? Let me bust out the world’s smallest violin. Might cost me 25% of my daily carbon allowance but fuck it.
Jozoz on
As a Dane it’s really incredible to see how wrong all these comments are about Danish politics.
They lost big because the current centre coalition government is unpopular. That’s literally it.
Chat control and all of that bullshit didn’t help but it’s not a major reason. News about all of that was very suspiciously not covered a lot in Danish media.
They are suffering because incumbents are suffering in general.
The Social Democrats have become borderline right wing and a lot of their voters feel very alienated so they take a bigger hit, but all government parties are hurting.
People are moving more towards the political extremes worldwide and Denmark is no different.
costigan95 on
Looking around at reputable sources outside the Guardian, there seems to be more emphasis that this election was a referendum on cost of living, particularly housing. Migration policy is mentioned, but the hard right parties gained almost no ground.
KrotHatesHumen on
Congrats to the dem soc party!
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>While the Social Democrats remain the largest municipal party in Denmark, the prime minister’s centre-left party lost more than five percentage points across the country in Tuesday night’s municipal and regional elections, dropping from 28.4% in 2021 to 23.2%
Many parties are very happy if these are already „sweeping election losses“.
The media wants us to fear getting wiped out if we go too far left. Screw them the train has left the station.
This is the problem everywhere in the West. If you adopt far right positions to please voters, more people will vote for the far right („the original“ in this case) but you lose your core voters not being far right.
In Germany it is the CDU/CSU union repeating this. Their popularity goes down while AfD is up in polls. Every time CDU/CSU adopts an AfD talking point (mostly immigration and islam) they lose more in polls and „the original“ AfD goes up.
You cannot win elections adopting talking points of the far right.
In the US the Democrats are also following this trap in their suggestion to adopt anti-lgbtiq/anti-trans „No men in womens‘ sports!“-themes „to regain the center“ – without realizing that doing this, they will completely go down as people would vote even more the GOP – „the original“.
Chat control.
I’m already seeing people claim it’s because if the migration policies they lost, blatantly ignoring the other facts
One their migration policies remain popular the actually reasons for their other policies
Two, A Big reason was as the EU presidential leaders they tried to do that awful Chat Control bill with extreme severity despite open corruption mentioned by many third parties
Three, The government has allowed inflation to get out of control, broke promises on the environmental glls they said they would do and the fact is any government gets unpopular after a while
Four, they failed to keep their environmental promises and goals, the are still way too dependant on gas and oil and this alienated a lot of Greens
But already we see people reduce this to single issues
It’s not migration which statistically remains popular, its the fact they are in power too long and other failures and scandals about overreach
Edit: aslo seeing the collapse of many old parties across the world due to crisis of living costs worldwide 5% losses are not actually that bad, it could have been worse, its not as if they were destroyed like the SPD in Germany or Conservatives in Britain
Also the fact that the fst right remains puny and migration was “not” a major issue in the election proves its success. Naturally through this is overlooked
Sources
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1mgkd93r4yo
https://balkaninsight.com/2023/09/25/who-benefits-inside-the-eus-fight-over-scanning-for-child-sex-content/
http://web.archive.org/web/20251031085233/https://www.euractiv.com/news/danish-presidency-backs-away-from-chat-control/
Typical media fear mongering headline.
So can they stop proposing chat control every few months now or … ?
Oh, the authoritarians pushing chat-control and limiting movement/personal freedom are losing? Let me bust out the world’s smallest violin. Might cost me 25% of my daily carbon allowance but fuck it.
As a Dane it’s really incredible to see how wrong all these comments are about Danish politics.
They lost big because the current centre coalition government is unpopular. That’s literally it.
Chat control and all of that bullshit didn’t help but it’s not a major reason. News about all of that was very suspiciously not covered a lot in Danish media.
They are suffering because incumbents are suffering in general.
The Social Democrats have become borderline right wing and a lot of their voters feel very alienated so they take a bigger hit, but all government parties are hurting.
People are moving more towards the political extremes worldwide and Denmark is no different.
Looking around at reputable sources outside the Guardian, there seems to be more emphasis that this election was a referendum on cost of living, particularly housing. Migration policy is mentioned, but the hard right parties gained almost no ground.
Congrats to the dem soc party!