‚fight child abuse‘ also should be at brackets here.
The main idea of this law if someone like Orban or that guy from Serbia are taking the country they could easily make surveillance and „eliminate threat“.
ReacherNMN on
if it’s about child abuse then why are politicians exempted?
guoj1487 on
Fight child abuse, but not really. To spy on every European citizen more like. Except the politicians of course.
prof_dr_mr_obvious on
„to fight child abuse“ between a few big, fat quotes that is. Chat control would be a gross invasion of everyone’s privacy and treating everyone like a criminal. And besides that isn’t going to work at all.
New-Firefighter9466 on
„Think of the children“ type shit
CrazyWriterHippo on
If you want to fight child abuse, just jail every politician and be done with it.
bxzidff on
Disgusting how many European politicians are so eager to turn their countries into police states. You’d think both the west and east remembered what the iron curtain was like, it’s not that long ago
Nice-Appearance-9720 on
The countries that care soo much about fighting child abuse could fist start with the orange file in Washington, before shaking hands with him.
silentspectator27 on
It’s almost a 100 percent certain the Council will agree to this unanimously. Our hope now is in Parliament and the Courts. No back doors, no mandatory age verification.
schavi on
let’s not spread the justification of these measures as something that is valid.
this is not to ‚fight child abuse‘.
this is not an useful tool against child abuse and it’s implementation has far more drastic consequences that are made to seem irrelevant with this sorta phrasing.
hamstar_potato on
Poland is gathering fanboys and fangirls. The Germany thing was nonsensical and funny, but I respect them for being againt chat control for whatever reason they have. Hope they have the same stance on Digital Omnibus, ProtectEU, age verifications and the such.
I’m starting to think all the politicians supporting this are either on the Epstein list, have friends on the Epstein list or are into a pedo ring at home. What’s this obsession with kids? And that’s on top of a boner for complete thoughts control.
Also, can „the news“ stop spreading misinformation that this is for the kids? They’re lying.
Eokokok on
I don’t understand this headline, so we are against it because that stance helps us fight child abuse? Or has average journo became an AI driven moron at this point?
„law to fight child abuse“
every expert ever disagrees. This is a surveilence law. This is a law that would not only monitor your messages, it’d provide every message you have ever sent, whether deleted or not, directly to the authorities, who will then jail you on thought crimes
cassanderer on
I am sure those kids will appreciate the protection that comes from an all encompassing techno fascist plutocracy that relegates them to starvation wages for life.
MyPinkFlipFlops on
Ah yes, lets say that chat control is meant to fight child abuse to make opposing it seem grossly immoral
LoveThinkers on
The year is 2035, if the people have a thought not cleared for free thinking, a shovel will hit them in the face at initiation of said thought.
The politician is of course excluded, and the people are not allowed to think of that.
Now sir, move along
Random-num-451284813 on
the guise is to fight child abuse
change my mind
women_rules on
Poland is so easy to like.
dread_deimos on
Based Poland.
Low_Technician7346 on
The danish politician who was in favor of chatcontrol recently got jailed because of pedophile content found on his computer.
Anyone claiming that we should sacrifice some liberty to protect the children should be audited because they are often related to such shady activities.
beatrovert on
Poland W, man, I’m starting to like them.
And Germany too.
jet_vr on
Thank you Poland
KomisktEfterbliven on
POLSKA GUROM
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lempickalover on
I love these comments. They’re trying so hard to wrap up their authoritarian surveillance law under pretty packaging, but so many people see right through their bs. It’s not a law to fight child abuse, it’s a law to curtail our freedoms and right to privacy. Let’s always call it like it is.
iaNCURdehunedoara on
Really cool how manufacturing consent is done in real time. They put a spyware bill under the guise of „combating child abuse“ and if you oppose the bill to spy on all of us they say you don’t care about children lmao
There are already plenty of ways to combat child abuse, they just want to spy on us
Child abuse is the default explanation when they want to erode your right to privacy.
They want too paint anyone who objects as a filthy pedo.
PowerOfUnoriginality on
While obviously child abuse needs to be prevented (duh), I do not think chat control is the way to do it.
And as u/ReacherNMN said: „if it’s about child abuse then why are politicians exempted?“
AtraVenator on
> to fight child abuse
Come on now EU how retarded do you think we are 😄
La_mer_noire on
If this law doesn’t pass, with the nerve of these MPs in the eu parlement the next one will be „chat control to protect puppy abuse“
Then, „chat control to fight cancer“
Amasis33 on
Good guy Poland, thank you for being smart
UntimelyGhostTickler on
This isnt to fight child abuse but to curtail our freedoms lol
dhruan on
„To fight child abuse“? Bullshit, talk about throwing the baby (in this case, fundamental rights and any expectation of privacy) out with the bathwater. This is a tool for internal state surveillance and espionage on their citizens, and thus, totally antithetical to the European project.
Express_Ad5083 on
The closer someone is to Epstein the more they like this law, weird right?
JayR_97 on
They always go with the „Won’t someone please think of the children!!!“ angle when pushing this Orwellian bullshit
vadeNxD on
It’s not about child abuse. It’s about controlling the mass public.
NewspaperNice1512 on
Poland opposes mandatory EU chat control law to ‘fight child abuse’
Fixed that for you
Kheldras on
So.. its mandatory now? Thanks Poland, for saying no.
Traroten on
YES!
Thank you Poland.
Oleleplop on
this title lmao
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I’m liking Poland more and more every day.
‚fight child abuse‘ also should be at brackets here.
The main idea of this law if someone like Orban or that guy from Serbia are taking the country they could easily make surveillance and „eliminate threat“.
if it’s about child abuse then why are politicians exempted?
Fight child abuse, but not really. To spy on every European citizen more like. Except the politicians of course.
„to fight child abuse“ between a few big, fat quotes that is. Chat control would be a gross invasion of everyone’s privacy and treating everyone like a criminal. And besides that isn’t going to work at all.
„Think of the children“ type shit
If you want to fight child abuse, just jail every politician and be done with it.
Disgusting how many European politicians are so eager to turn their countries into police states. You’d think both the west and east remembered what the iron curtain was like, it’s not that long ago
The countries that care soo much about fighting child abuse could fist start with the orange file in Washington, before shaking hands with him.
It’s almost a 100 percent certain the Council will agree to this unanimously. Our hope now is in Parliament and the Courts. No back doors, no mandatory age verification.
let’s not spread the justification of these measures as something that is valid.
this is not to ‚fight child abuse‘.
this is not an useful tool against child abuse and it’s implementation has far more drastic consequences that are made to seem irrelevant with this sorta phrasing.
Poland is gathering fanboys and fangirls. The Germany thing was nonsensical and funny, but I respect them for being againt chat control for whatever reason they have. Hope they have the same stance on Digital Omnibus, ProtectEU, age verifications and the such.
I’m starting to think all the politicians supporting this are either on the Epstein list, have friends on the Epstein list or are into a pedo ring at home. What’s this obsession with kids? And that’s on top of a boner for complete thoughts control.
Also, can „the news“ stop spreading misinformation that this is for the kids? They’re lying.
I don’t understand this headline, so we are against it because that stance helps us fight child abuse? Or has average journo became an AI driven moron at this point?
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„law to fight child abuse“
every expert ever disagrees. This is a surveilence law. This is a law that would not only monitor your messages, it’d provide every message you have ever sent, whether deleted or not, directly to the authorities, who will then jail you on thought crimes
I am sure those kids will appreciate the protection that comes from an all encompassing techno fascist plutocracy that relegates them to starvation wages for life.
Ah yes, lets say that chat control is meant to fight child abuse to make opposing it seem grossly immoral
The year is 2035, if the people have a thought not cleared for free thinking, a shovel will hit them in the face at initiation of said thought.
The politician is of course excluded, and the people are not allowed to think of that.
Now sir, move along
the guise is to fight child abuse
change my mind
Poland is so easy to like.
Based Poland.
The danish politician who was in favor of chatcontrol recently got jailed because of pedophile content found on his computer.
Anyone claiming that we should sacrifice some liberty to protect the children should be audited because they are often related to such shady activities.
Poland W, man, I’m starting to like them.
And Germany too.
Thank you Poland
POLSKA GUROM
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I love these comments. They’re trying so hard to wrap up their authoritarian surveillance law under pretty packaging, but so many people see right through their bs. It’s not a law to fight child abuse, it’s a law to curtail our freedoms and right to privacy. Let’s always call it like it is.
Really cool how manufacturing consent is done in real time. They put a spyware bill under the guise of „combating child abuse“ and if you oppose the bill to spy on all of us they say you don’t care about children lmao
There are already plenty of ways to combat child abuse, they just want to spy on us
polska gurom
Least leading political headline
Mandatory scanning was permanently removed on November 15th. https://mastodon.social/@chatcontrol/115554527277663588 age verification still remains (but parliament can eliminate it during the trilogues)
Child abuse is the default explanation when they want to erode your right to privacy.
They want too paint anyone who objects as a filthy pedo.
While obviously child abuse needs to be prevented (duh), I do not think chat control is the way to do it.
And as u/ReacherNMN said: „if it’s about child abuse then why are politicians exempted?“
> to fight child abuse
Come on now EU how retarded do you think we are 😄
If this law doesn’t pass, with the nerve of these MPs in the eu parlement the next one will be „chat control to protect puppy abuse“
Then, „chat control to fight cancer“
Good guy Poland, thank you for being smart
This isnt to fight child abuse but to curtail our freedoms lol
„To fight child abuse“? Bullshit, talk about throwing the baby (in this case, fundamental rights and any expectation of privacy) out with the bathwater. This is a tool for internal state surveillance and espionage on their citizens, and thus, totally antithetical to the European project.
The closer someone is to Epstein the more they like this law, weird right?
They always go with the „Won’t someone please think of the children!!!“ angle when pushing this Orwellian bullshit
It’s not about child abuse. It’s about controlling the mass public.
Poland opposes mandatory EU chat control law to ‘fight child abuse’
Fixed that for you
So.. its mandatory now? Thanks Poland, for saying no.
YES!
Thank you Poland.
this title lmao