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    2. Busy-Inevitable-4428 on

      This is why I try not to argue with Armenians. Long ago I accepted thaf Armenians had lived in Karabakh and modern Armenia for about a thousand years before Turks arrived. They however would never accept that Turks have ruled these lands for the last thousand years. I have had Armenians argue thag modern day Armenia was mostly autonomous during the Seljuk, Safavid, Afsharid empires and even that there were independent small kingdoms in Karabakh. I have had Armenians on twitter straight up tell me that the 4 UN resolutions were Azerbaijani propoganda. I have had Armenians tell me that the bolshevik/dashnaksutyun forces didn’t massacre thousands of Azerbaijanis in 1918, and that the Khojaly massacre was a false flag by Azerbaijanis.

      I am willing to look past the last 2000 years and look to the future, but these petty arguments have to end.

    4. Bluejay1889 on

      „Artsakh had 7800 years of Armenian history“

      This almost twice older than pyramids.

      I am waiting one Armenian or Kurdish to come up with „Göbekli Tepe“ is also theirs.

      Göbekli Tepeyan?

      Göbexli Tepe?

      (Dear Armenians, just because you lived somewhere some time ago doesn’t make it yours. „Historically belong to us“ is not a valid argument. Literally, every single border today is drawn based on wars, mutual agreements and declarations. Nothing is decided based on „my ancestors were here 5000 years ago“ type arguments.)

    5. Melitene1 on

      I hate when people use AI to try and prove something, regardless of which side they are on. Grok is NOT an all-encompassing book of knowledge that has access to every single medieval document.
      Panah-Ali Khan did not found the town out of nothing, there was indeed an Armenian population in the area prior to that. This is not me trying to deny Azerbaijani heritage in the city or anything like that, it just happens to be a fact that is not as easily accessible in the basic information online which Grok pulls from. This doesn’t change if it belongs to Armenians or Azerbaijanis, but I’m just saying it doesn’t have all the answers and holding up an answer from Grok like a trophy is stupid, especially because there are easily many other answers that it’ll give which you will not like the answer to. So what’s the point of this?

    6. Vedat9854 on

      “That’s what you are taught to say” oh yeah Elon Musk the famous pro-Azerbaijani businessman

    8. Common_Brick_8222 on

      Kinda reminded me of a period when Grok was destroying arguments of pro-Russian dudes on Twitter.

    9. Tis_STUNNING_Outside on

      Why can’t people just accept that the region has always been incredibly mixed?

      Both ethnicities have lived there for hundreds and hundreds of years.

    12. cringeyposts123 on

      “That’s what you are taught to say” so grok is now a pro – Azerbaijani supporter

      ![gif](giphy|zforkiUM01Cms)

    14. AlarmedEvidence3040 on

      The land that Shushi / Shusha was built on was part of Armenian domain, and Panah Ali Khan was granted the land by an Armenian melik in exchange for protection from rivaling / invading Armenian city-states.

    15. UnQuacker on

      I mean, they lost the battle the moment they tried to rely on an AI to get information☠️

    17. Karlson84 on

      Unedited answer from ChatGPT:

      Short answer:

      Armenian presence on the Shushi plateau is attested earlier, but the town founded in the 18th century was from the start mixed and early on had a Muslim (later called Azerbaijani) majority.

      • Most historians date the founding of the modern town/fortress of Shusha/Shushi to the 1750s, when Panah Ali Khan of the Karabakh Khanate (a Turkic-Muslim polity, ancestor of modern Azerbaijani identity) built his mountain fortress there. 
      • Armenian sources (and some Western travellers) describe an earlier Armenian fortress/settlement on the same plateau (Shikakar / Shosh / Shushikent), part of the Armenian melikdom of Varanda, with references going back at least to the 15th–18th centuries. 

      • The first Russian survey of 1823 shows Shusha as a mixed town with a majority of Muslim “Tatars” (pre-Soviet term for Azerbaijani Turks) and a large Armenian minority. 

      So if the question is “whose documented presence on that site is older?” → Armenians.
      If it’s “who formed the town when it became a khanate capital in the 18th c.?” → a mixed Armenian–Turkic Muslim town, with early Muslim/Azerbaijani majority.

      Any claim that only one nation is “original” there is a political simplification, not a clean historical fact.

    19. xevoprime on

      Armenian and Kurd have a common habit that creating fake history and denying facts.

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