Nebenbei bemerkt wäre es großartig, wenn Journalisten bei der Ermittlung ihres Verhältnisses xD den Wechsel zwischen Bruttoeinkommen und verfügbarem Einkommen vermeiden könnten
Sie haben (in CHF/Monat):
- 10,3 Tsd. Bruttoeinkommen davon:
- 7,1 Tsd. verfügbares Einkommen
- 3,2 Tsd. obligatorische Ausgaben (Steuern, Sozialabgaben, Krankenversicherungsbeiträge).
Vom verfügbaren Einkommen fließen 1,5 Tsd. CHF/Monat in Wohnen und Energie [wtf?! This low?!] und könnte rund 1,7 Tsd. CHF/Monat einsparen [17% of the gross income].
Beachten Sie, dass diejenigen, die nicht sparen konnten, größtenteils Rentner sind, die ihr Vermögen für Ausgaben verwenden.
Als jemand, der in der Stadt ZH lebt: WTF für den Preis dieser Häuser?! Puh, kann ich eins bekommen?!
Es zeigt, dass wir Statistiken benötigen, die auf der Zusammensetzung und dem Standort der Haushalte basieren (Stadt vs. Vorort vs. Land).
Ansonsten ist es immer derselbe Witz: Wenn Bill Gates eine Bar betritt, ist der durchschnittliche Gast ein Millionär.
TIL: Average household gross income is ~10 300 CHF/month. But 60% earn less.
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not everyone lives in zürich city obviously…
Maybe the financial journalist was sick today, and the novice student wrote the article
>and could save around […] [17% of the gross income].
Bwahahaha
Know educated people it healthy industrries who have no other responsibilities than themselves (no kids or other person depending on them) and they sure cannot save 17% of their **gross** income, far from it.
> TIL: Average household gross income is ~10 300 CHF/month. But 60% earn less.
Yeah, that’s why you look at income distribution, e.g. in deciles. Average is meaningless, median is a bit better but still meh, but deciles are are pretty useful.
Link to the actual source for the article: https://www.bfs.admin.ch/bfs/fr/home/actualites/communiques-presse.assetdetail.36192816.html
kind of a malpractice to not link to it from the article ….
A couple earning 7100 CHF Net is very realistic if both work IMO.
Classic redditor moment: finding out that not everybody lives a bug life in Zöri where housing and taxes are outrageous. But hey, you will get bicycle highway for 350m, smile and be happy. 🙂
>Otherwise, it is always the same joke: when Bill Gates goes into a bar, the average customer is a millionaire.
That’s where the median comes in handily: it shifts just by a half person 😉
ITT: OP learns how average works
Well if you earn your money in Zurich, pay tax in Zug and live in Jura this could work.
Average is not median. Better use median for proper averaging.
> It shows that we need statistics based household composition and location (city vs suburb vs rural).
You seem to be confused, the link you posted is a brief news article, not a detailed statistical analysis.
This is what you’re looking for: https://www.bfs.admin.ch/bfs/fr/home/statistiques/situation-economique-sociale-population/revenus-consommation-et-fortune/budget-des-menages.html
>As someone living in ZH city: WTF for the price of these home?! Wheee can I get one?!
There you go: [https://www.homegate.ch/louer/appartement/lieu-ste-croix/liste-annonces](https://www.homegate.ch/louer/appartement/lieu-ste-croix/liste-annonces)
I find these stats always hard to understand. 10300chf gross. Does this mean average household make 12 x 10300 =123’600 chf gross per year?
It is already a solid number imo.