Geburtenrate in der Schweiz erreicht neuen Tiefpunkt
https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/various/birth-rate-in-switzerland-at-a-new-low/90306805
Von diacewrb
Geburtenrate in der Schweiz erreicht neuen Tiefpunkt
https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/various/birth-rate-in-switzerland-at-a-new-low/90306805
Von diacewrb
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>The average number of children per woman in Switzerland has fallen to 1.29, its lowest level since records began. The desire to have children is also declining.
Even in Switzerland, country considered paradise? We are doomed lol.
Feminism
The declining birth rate is a cultural problem…
It baffles me that people still think it’s fixable with economic incentives.
High TFR countries have a very different organization of the society and stricter gender norms. I’m not necessarily advocating for that but it’s a fact and as long as we ignore it nothing will be solved.
1960 population 5m
2020 population 8.6m
2025 population 9m
It was constantly increasing so a period of stagnation would be more normal then constant rise.
It looks like in 50 years, the population will be 30% smaller, and they will have even fewer opportunities than we do.
From some older data [it seems](https://www.ubs.com/ch/en/wealth-management/womens-wealth/magazine/articles/the-cost-of-raising-a-child.html) that „Parents spend an average of 370,000 francs per child by the time they reach the age of 21. This does not include the costs of external childcare. Nor does it include indirect costs resulting from a lower income and unpaid care work“.
How do you think the rate would change if parents were given 370 000 CHF for each birth ?
Like i said in Switzerland sub. Dont expect the anti immigration parties to solve this problem.
Even immigrants will eventually leave due to xenophobia.
Your only solution is to break the social wellfare system and revise the pension system or work 996. No one ezcept the neoliberals are willing to talk about this.
You shouldnt have these things if you dont have the demographic capital to fund them.
The west should focus on degrowth. Time to let other psrts of the world become economic powerhouses. Europes time has come and gone. Time for countries like Switzerland to retire.
This way, no immigrants will come either. Fixing the fertility rate should happen naturally.
Code word for time to import more people and change your whole culture
The country with the 3rd highest GDP Per Capita in the world isn’t having kids, but people still assume the demographic crisis is a economic issue.
My wife and I are doing out best to help with that, but no luck yet. 🙁
Honestly, the best measure the state could take to help with that would be to incentivise remote work. Fully remote work, not just hybrid.
It would give people the possibility to move to the countryside, it would make raising children much easier when you don’t have to plan around being away for 9-10h each day…
Oh no! Anyways
Tertiary education is the most effective contraceptive ever invented.
That’s not a joke.
The earlier the society send young men and women to work, the earlier they could settle down with family life and children. You may raise your kid in a small apartment with your partner, or alone; but very few people would like to raise their kids in college dorms.
Planet is overpopulated. AI and layoffs are everywhere. One must be a sociopathic selfish narcissist to give birth in this environment.
So many claim this isn’t an economic but „cultural“ problem, especially since every Swiss is rich couldn’t possibly be short on money, right?
Not least because of tax competition, immigration has also triggered massive internal migration: the rich are moving to places where rents are high and taxes are low. The middle class is being pushed out to the suburbs.
The middle class currently earns CHF 6,900 for a full-time job. But for a couple with two children, the time budget must also be right. According to statistics, the weekly time commitment for a couple with two small children amounts to 53.3 hours per person, or around 7.5 hours per day. On workdays, another 8 hours of work and at least one hour of commuting time are added (They live in the suburbs and are stuck in traffic, as mentioned above). This leaves them with less than 7.5 hours per day in total for stuff such as sleep, recreation and so on. So, in terms of time alone, two full-time jobs are not feasible. Even two 70 percent jobs push them to their limits in terms of time, nerves, and health, and financially to 9,700 francs gross or 8,100 francs net.
After deducting taxes (around CHF 750) and health insurance contributions (CHF 1,000), the disposable income is CHF 6,350 – if the two weekdays on which both parents work do not cost another CHF 100 per day and child for daycare. But let’s assume that grandparents, neighbors, or the state step in. Of this 6,350 francs, the rent for a family-friendly apartment must now be paid. But even in the lucky case of a monthly rent of only 2,500 francs, only 3,850 francs remain. That is extremely tight. According to household expenditure statistics from 2018, the poorest fifth of all households with children had expenses of 4,200 francs – after paying rent of 1,400 francs at the time. And that was despite massive restrictions on all consumer spending.
Until a few decades ago, it was entirely possible and common to support several children on just one full-time job. Today, children are a poverty risk. This also explains why the birth rate has now dropped below 1.3 children per woman.
Must be because the swiss are so poor they can’t afford kids.
Look at Japan—certainly not Sweden or Germany!!—for solutions and ideas.
Are the number of childless women also increasing or is it that people are having fewer?
well, aint this the final evidence that money has never been a problem?…
I’ll throw my opinion into the ring… the reason birth rates are low and will stay low in Western countries is because the resources required to raise a child in a high income Western country are in many ways exponential.
In agrarian times you had 12 kids because realistically half of them would die before their 10th birthday and the rest could be put to work on the farm. Every additional child was a net positive in terms of making life easier.
That has entirely flipped now. We have prepatory schools and sports appointments and right now where I live in the Netherlands we have sorting going on for future school prospects. If you are a parent working full time or near full time there is a MASSIVE cost in terms of money time and resources to raising a child, getting them to a level academically where they can succeed in an every harsher competitive jobs landscape and raising them to be a stable successful adult.
There is no govt incentive package that can give you more hours in the day to take your kids to sports practice or a language tutor and for that reason… the birth rate will continue to trend down.
We have 2 kids and on some days it feels borderline impossible to deal with all the demands.