There is a reason why Brian May quit the RSPCA. A lot of the ‚validation‘ is suspect. Not surprised, still very disappointed.
barrysxott on
Free range is pretty meaningless anyway. Things like chickens would cost a good twenty quid at least if you used a non miserable intensive meat breed and raised it somewhat well.
People won’t pay it. Price of all meat is essentially set by how shit you can treat an animal before it dies on you.
I raise my own poultry etc it’s cheaper to buy a nasty 4.50 chicken than it is to produce it at home.
Significant-Leek8483 on
I am glad this is the kind of news we are dealing with now. Much better than some bigots burning down a hotel.
terryjuicelawson on
It has been a thing for eggs too, the chickens have more space and in theory access to the outdoors – except if there is a lockdown due to disease they can’t, and the label doesn’t have to distinguish. It is barely an upgrade anyway so animal lovers can’t get too precious.
The_Chosen_Eggplant on
Yeah it’s a been a big problem, companies doing the bare minimum just to be classed as free range.
radiant_0wl on
Government shouldn’t have changed the law about this but instead set up a compensation scheme for impacted farms – loss shared between the government and farmers.
Visual_Astronaut1506 on
Maybe a controversial opinion, but this is the kind of farming we need if people still want cheap meat.
Higher efficiency and minimal space are both wins.
Beef is the opposite and has rapidly become unaffordable.
azazelcrowley on
I don’t much care about raised indoors v outdoors. More concerned with space per bird and its general QoL. I accept that it may be slightly impacted by being indoors all day, but frankly I doubt its even in the top 10 list of things to change, and understand why they’re shifted indoors during periods of outbreak like prompted this change.
Birds which are able to spend at least half the day interacting socially with other birds, being mentally stimulated, and having decent space, can be called free range for all I care, whether or not that occurs indoors or not. I’d sooner rate a farm better for providing the birds a ball to play with than putting them outdoors, all other things being equal. But maybe i’m just missing something. It seems like a kind of homeopathic approach to animal welfare to care about „Outdoors“ per se. I doubt the birds give a shit.
rev-fr-john on
Bird flu! Bird flu is the reason, it also means that the free range eggs you’re buying are from „other sources“ as is allowed in the labeling legislation, mostly because to clear an area of pests and diseases the area needs to be free of livestock, in this period free range farms are allowed to label eggs from other sources as free range. On the plus side because of tit for tat practices some eggs labelled from caged hens are actually from free range hens.
If you want to guarantee the eggs fell out of a free range hens arse you need to keep free range hens.
Not_Alpha_Centaurian on
„All our chickens are 100% free to range, they just have to ask any time they want to go outside“
VeryBaldIndeed on
98% of the reason I am vegetarian is because I have spent 35 years as an engineer in the food industry.
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There is a reason why Brian May quit the RSPCA. A lot of the ‚validation‘ is suspect. Not surprised, still very disappointed.
Free range is pretty meaningless anyway. Things like chickens would cost a good twenty quid at least if you used a non miserable intensive meat breed and raised it somewhat well.
People won’t pay it. Price of all meat is essentially set by how shit you can treat an animal before it dies on you.
I raise my own poultry etc it’s cheaper to buy a nasty 4.50 chicken than it is to produce it at home.
I am glad this is the kind of news we are dealing with now. Much better than some bigots burning down a hotel.
It has been a thing for eggs too, the chickens have more space and in theory access to the outdoors – except if there is a lockdown due to disease they can’t, and the label doesn’t have to distinguish. It is barely an upgrade anyway so animal lovers can’t get too precious.
Yeah it’s a been a big problem, companies doing the bare minimum just to be classed as free range.
Government shouldn’t have changed the law about this but instead set up a compensation scheme for impacted farms – loss shared between the government and farmers.
Maybe a controversial opinion, but this is the kind of farming we need if people still want cheap meat.
Higher efficiency and minimal space are both wins.
Beef is the opposite and has rapidly become unaffordable.
I don’t much care about raised indoors v outdoors. More concerned with space per bird and its general QoL. I accept that it may be slightly impacted by being indoors all day, but frankly I doubt its even in the top 10 list of things to change, and understand why they’re shifted indoors during periods of outbreak like prompted this change.
Birds which are able to spend at least half the day interacting socially with other birds, being mentally stimulated, and having decent space, can be called free range for all I care, whether or not that occurs indoors or not. I’d sooner rate a farm better for providing the birds a ball to play with than putting them outdoors, all other things being equal. But maybe i’m just missing something. It seems like a kind of homeopathic approach to animal welfare to care about „Outdoors“ per se. I doubt the birds give a shit.
Bird flu! Bird flu is the reason, it also means that the free range eggs you’re buying are from „other sources“ as is allowed in the labeling legislation, mostly because to clear an area of pests and diseases the area needs to be free of livestock, in this period free range farms are allowed to label eggs from other sources as free range. On the plus side because of tit for tat practices some eggs labelled from caged hens are actually from free range hens.
If you want to guarantee the eggs fell out of a free range hens arse you need to keep free range hens.
„All our chickens are 100% free to range, they just have to ask any time they want to go outside“
98% of the reason I am vegetarian is because I have spent 35 years as an engineer in the food industry.