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    1. alexwasashrimp on

      Death penalty is unacceptable from any sensible point of view. It’s not humane, it’s not utilitarian (doesn’t work as a deterrent, costs a lot), it’s as statist as it gets, giving the state the ultimate power. There can be no exceptions. 

    2. par-a-dox-i-cal on

      Ben Gvir should be the first to get the penalty, he is a terrorist after all.

    3. PsychologyMiserable4 on

      Only for terrorists, sure, trust me bro. One would never convict innocents, trust me bro.

    4. More-Dot346 on

      The statement read: „It is proposed that a terrorist convicted of murder motivated by racism or hatred towards the public, and under circumstances where the act was committed with the intent to harm the State of Israel and the rebirth of the Jewish nation in its homeland will be sentenced to the death penalty – mandatory.“

    5. CoconutDogPullsUp on

      Never ask a woman her weight, a man his salary, or Itamar Ben Gvir how old his wife was when they first started going out.

    6. GlassBit7081 on

      The dynamics in Israel are unique to the Western World problem set. Israelis have too much respect for their citizens/bodies, which Hamas and Hezbollah have successfully weaponized to extract high value terrorists from the Israeli jail system, which then allows more Israelis to be captured/killed, and so on. Sinwar was released in a situation like this (after the Israelis had saved his life with life saving surgery).

      The Israelis current policy has been a disaster. The death penalty reduces risks to Israelis AND Palestinians.

    7. So basically they’re considering a law that all their neighbours already have and use regularly

    8. Good majority of countries have this law, or is it only a problem when Israel implements the same law?

    9. Even if this passes it’s extremely unlikely that many people will be executed. It took such a crazy amount of work to execute Eichmann and Ivan the Terrible of Majdanik was able to get his death penalty overturned on appeal in the 80s. So I really doubt the government will be able to execute many people, if any.

      Just so people understand how slow the Israeli court system is, assuming someone is convicted of a terroristic murder, they would need to exhaust every level of appeal before reaching the Supreme Court, which itself may take years and even up to a decade, and then the Supreme Court needs to hear the case which again could take years and it could be more years until they make a decision.

      I strongly doubt that the court will even approve any executions due to the inability of the court to reverse that decision, which is also why Israel rarely extradites people, the courts prefer the person serve their sentence in Israel, even if convicted in a foreign court.That’s before we even ask if the court will declare the law unconstitutional.

    10. Hope it passes and is used against only serious offenders. The current cycle of murder numerous Israels and then get released a few years later in a prisoner swap to do it again is unsustainable.

    11. AtomicFreeman on

      A step im the right direction.

      Currently, terrorists care little about being jailed since they can just kidnap civilians and trade those civilians for convicted terrorists.

      No other nations has to face this absurdity

    12. Good. At a certain point we can’t put ourselves where we encourage hostage taking so they can get thousands of terrorists back.

    13. What’s this for again? Not like the lack of writing was stopping anything….

    14. And thats how you give any government the right to kill its own citizens (and other people they deem troublesome).

    15. lhommeduweed on

      The biggest problem with this, and something that won’t click with people who aren’t familiar with Ben Gvir, is that he has supported anti-Arab actions for decades and it has only been in the past couple of years that he has tried to moderate his image and that of his anti-Arab followers.

      For years, Otzma Yehudit followed the Kahanist line of harsh anti-Arab sentiment. This didn’t just include harsher punishments for Arabs convicted of crimes, but advocated for the dissolution of Jewish-Arab marriages and the expulsion of Arabs from all of Israel and the occupied territories.

      Ben Gvir began softening his line sometime around 2019, when he started telling his supporters to chant „Death to Terrorists“ rather than „Death to Arabs.“ Several years later, members of Otzma Yehudit were **still** chanting „Death to Arabs;“ this is most prominently seen in a video in Hebrew, where Ben Gvir is walking surrounded by crowds, and a supporter yells „Death to Arabs,“ and Ben Gvir turns on him and angrily yells „Enough! I’ve told you many times, say Death to Terrorists!“ It is abundantly clear that for Ben Gvir, these chants mean virtually the same thing, but one gets you arrested for hate speech, and the other does not.

      Of the entire Knesset, Ben Gvir is objectively the most toxic, caustic, and poisonous figure. He is such a fanatic that his own followers can’t properly lie to avoid incitement of racialized hatred (something ben Gvir was convicted of in 2007), and even other far-right members of the knesset have had to chastise him and tell him and his followers to shut up, both because they *also* don’t want to reveal what they believe and because they’re genuinely afraid of the psychopathic fanatics that Ben Gvir surrounds himself with.

      At first, Ben Gvir was only kept around by Netanyahu because Netanyahu needed a coalition of losers to stay in power. This has backfired, and Netanyahu has granted Ben Gvir more power than he should ever have had, power that he is capable of wielding to manipulate Netanyahu, power that he has converted into an unprecedented and undeserved 6 seats in the knesset, power that he is turning into side-coalitions with other lunatics like Smotrich to ensure that they are protected in the case that Netanyahu ends up turfed and facing serious charges.

      Nobody should have to know who Ben Gvir is. He should have remained a fringe nut with no real relevance, leading a party of racists with no real power that was always on the cusp of being shut down. Netanyahu was so desperate to protect his own ass that he elevated a rotten worshiper of mass murder and terror like Ben Gvir to a position of power that was immediately abused and thoroughly corrupted.

      At this point, Ben Gvir has entrenched himself within the Knesset despite being massively unpopular, and it will be incredibly difficult to remove him. It’s not to say that there is absolutely no hope, but someone this extreme gaining as much power as he has gained will not be calmly voted out of power. If Netanyahu ends up being removed in 2026 (and tbh, I don’t know that he will), then it is very possible that Ben Gvir rallies his extremist followers and turns them on Naftali/Lapid.

      It wouldn’t be the first time Ben Gvir enthusiastically calls for the murder of an Israeli PM.

    16. Ordinary_Ad_5943 on

      Isreal is a middle eastern country full of middle easterns. Would this law surprise you if it was in Saudi Arabia? Unfortunately we seem to be on debt to both of these nations.

    17. LobsterPunk on

      Oct 7th was masterminded by a terrorist that had been released from prison. So long as Hamas continues to demand the release of convicted murderers as part of their negotiations, executing those people instead makes a lot of strategic sense.

    18. CyanConatus on

      Ahh if they also commit murder. I don’t support capital punishment but this made a lot more sense than JUST terrorism

    19. Lanky-Rush607 on

      It seems Israel is losing the title of the „Middle East’s only democracy“

    20. only for convicted terrorist , like the military courts for Palestinians with 99% conviction rate

    21. ChaplnGrillSgt on

      How long until Trump proposes the same thing for USA?

      Mandatory death penalty? Absolutely wild.

    22. Fluffy_Moose_73 on

      Guess which people are going to have a 99% conviction rate in Israel?

    23. getdafkout666 on

      Isn’t this redundant since they already have the death penalty for innocent civilians, journalists and Red Cross workers?

    24. Not really a good thing to do, and huge openings for abuse, obviously, but kinda necessary since they keep releasing hundreds or more for every hostage. If you can’t keep them behind bars through their sentence, and they earned their place there, then something else has to be done to make sure they don’t get released early.

      In fact, the recent horrible war may not have happened at all if they had just executed Sinwar, the architect of the war who was serving multiple life sentences, instead of releasing him in exchange for a kidnapped soldier in 2011.

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