Trump werde „wahrscheinlich ermutigt“, wenn acht Demokraten für die Beendigung des Shutdowns stimmen, sagt Senator Murphy

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/trump-likely-to-be-emboldened-by-8-democrats-voting-to-end-shutdown-sen-murphy-says

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    1. There’s ample arguments against ending the shutdown at this junction. Doubly so accounting for how it went down.

      Trump might start thinking he’s a king and acting accordingly, as though he isn’t doing so maximally already, isn’t on the list.

    2. Ok_Peanut3545 on

      Likely? Ha

      Of course he is embolden by it. Just ask Columbia how great it was that they buckled from pressure immediately. It certainly did not make the admin leave them alone

      This is why you don’t negotiate with a terrorist and Trump/the GOP are terrorists trying to create control through fear and pain

    3. HaroldGreenBandana on

      “I think the problem here is that the old rules don’t apply. President Trump is likely to be emboldened by winning the acquiescence of eight Democrats. His illegality is likely to grow.”
      -Senator Chris Murphy

      Thank God at least one Democrat can assess this situation correctly.

    4. no_kids-and-3_money on

      Immediately after an agreement was reached he gave notice to the Supreme Court they are still planning to fight paying full SNAP benefits. That seems pretty bold since this was just the vote for having the vote not the actual vote itself.

      It’s almost like laughing in Democrats’ faces daring them to change their minds because they know they won’t.

    5. quiet_night87 on

      Trump got booed at an NFL game by “his people”

      Next day he announces $2000 payoffs, the man is panicking before he loses congress next year because even moderates are tired of him

    6. The 8 Democrats should be primaried and the DNC should support their opponents!

    7. walkallover1991 on

      No shit.

      The GOP and Trump spent the last week internally freaking out of the shutdown and how last week’s elections turned out.

      The Democrats literally gave them an actual chef’s kiss of a present.

      Anyone that believes that this was good policy for the Dems needs to drive down to their local mall, walk into Claires, and ask if they can get a lobotomy.

    8. yrotsihfoedisgnorw on

      Likely? He’s incessantly going to call this out as Dems creating unnecessary pain and then simply folding and thereby looking like they have no agenda and stand for nothing. It’s huge ammo for him. Dems immediately need to find a message to counter that. It doesn’t matter whether it was a horrible mistake or however anyone wants to describe. This is the morning after, day 1, and all that matters is how it’s dealt with going forward.

    9. So not only did they fuck us, they gave him the fuel to fuck us hard. Wonderful..

    10. Choice-of-SteinsGate on

      > Democrats would get nothing on health care beyond a promise that the Senate will vote on extending Affordable Care Act subsidies before the end of the year — essentially what Senate Majority Leader John Thune offered more than a month ago and Democrats objected to.

      Healthcare has been at the center of this unprecedented shutdown fight, and even if there is a future vote on ACA subsidies or amending previous cuts, there’s no indication that Republicans will change their minds about locking in rising healthcare costs and these cuts to Medicaid that don’t even remotely offset the cost of Trump’s agenda.

      During the shutdown, Trump damn near gleefully threatened the livelihoods of Americans, their families and the federal workforce.

      He threatened to impose mass layoffs and withhold funding to Democrat run areas and warned that he would take advantage of the shutdown to permanently disrupt government services and operations and cancel funding for social programs that millions of Americans rely on in one form or another.

      At the same time he was throwing lavish, tone deaf parties, golfing on the taxpayer dime, taking a wrecking ball to the White House to continue construction on his invasive and increasingly expensive ~~ballroom~~ vanity project, and all while his lawyers are fighting in court to halt funding for SNAP benefits.

      And bear in mind, we’re still waiting for Trump’s health care plan that he promised in two weeks from now… eight years ago.

      That said, Trump’s careless and cruel decisions over the past 40 days will be overshadowed by Republican efforts to control the narrative.

      They will push the talking point that Democrats prolonged this shutdown for nothing—that it was all performative. In spite of the fact that Trump and Republicans created the conditions for the shutdown in the first place by refusing to negotiate or participate, by cancelling votes, by forcing recesses, by failing to even show up for votes on government funding bills, and by rejecting Democrat’s CR counterproposal that included healthcare protections early on.

      They even shot down a proposal to help temporarily fund SNAP benefits that were coming to an abrupt end.

      Many have argued that Democrats recently gained some political leverage after last week’s elections indicated a sharp rebuke of Trump and his policies.

      But now they’re folding with little to show for it and Republicans will seize on this opportunity to blame Democrats for the hardship that some Americans were forced to endure. And it won’t take too much convincing because Dems held out for a record breaking number of days only to come up near empty handed.

      Meanwhile, Republicans still hold a trifecta of power and now assume all of the leverage. They have no obligation to hold a vote or even entertain Democrats.

      And if another funding fight ensues in the future, they’ll be in a better position to refuse Democrats and deny them any sort of compromise under the guise that Dems are acting in bad faith and because they won’t dare risk another shutdown to ultimately concede to Trump’s ultimatums in the end.

      When Republicans finally put this whole fiasco behind them, they’ll just continue lying about their commitment to a „better“ healthcare plan or instead of universal healthcare, we’ll get the universal privatization of healthcare.

      Meaning more profit seeking and denied claims, exorbitant costs and skyrocketing premiums, unequal access to care and less accessibility for low-income individuals and families, not to mention the conflicts of interest and lining of pockets, hospital shutdowns, and of course, a lot more dead poor people.

    11. Republicans knew they could outlast Dems because they don’t actually care about governing. The shutdown meant nothing to them.

    12. I think Trump is already about as emboldened as it’s possible to be. He has immunity, the SCOTUS is in his pocket, Congress ditto. There hasn’t been an effective check on him in most of this term.

    13. DaKingaDaNorth on

      I mean why shouldn’t he be? He played the shutdown completely wrong. The public turned on him. He was having his lowest approval ever. Then Democrats just decided to bail him out and he gets to call it a win.

    14. Suitable-Display-410 on

      Call for Chucks removal then.
      You are a senator. You can do it. It just takes one to call for a leadership vote.

      Remove him or share the blame.

    15. „Likely“? He absolutely is. The orange thrives on this stuff, it feeds his insane ego.

    16. How are we a decade into the Trump era and these majority of the Democrats in power seem unable to know this in their bones? Like wtf

    17. pile_of_fish on

      How the hell will he be emboldened. He just does whatever the hell he wants in any case.

    18. pleachchapel on

      Not donating a dollar to this party if all of these people aren’t condemned with the intent to primary.

      Individual candidates absolutely, but the DNC can suck my dick. No leadership, no principles, no spine.

    19. lifeuh_finds_a_way on

      Personally, I’m super excited for us all to collectively forget completely about this in 3 months because the news cycle has made us all have the attention span of a damn gold fish.

      I’m not ACTUALLY excited about it, but that is what’s going to happen – and Republicans will find a way to suggest this is the Democrats fault.

    20. You have to be simple to think Trump needs help being emboldened or cares about SNAP or ACA people. Like seeing starving people would have any effect. He’d probably mock them !

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