Das Problem der Konservativen Partei ist größer als Poilievre
Das Problem der Konservativen Partei ist größer als Poilievre
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>Since the Conservatives lost power in 2015, there has been low-key struggle between the majority hard core of the party represented by the original Reform Party and the more moderate members who came from the traditional Progressive Conservatives
PC members have been patient with the Reform half of the party since Harper left, just assuming the strategy would eventually produce a win. The Reform side keeps dominating leadership races, the tone keeps getting more aggressive, and the party keeps coming up short. I honestly don’t know how much longer the moderates put up with it, or why they would.
A split is not impossible. The PC crowd could drift toward Carney’s Liberals, which are leaning more centrist and more in line with old school conservatism than Poilievre’s approach. If that happened, you could end up with a completely different political map where the NDP and the Reform wing have to move toward the centre to stay competitive. In that kind of setup, I doubt Reform would win a majority, and the NDP could actually grow if it focused on unions and worker rights again.
Ever since Harper came and went it’s been abundantly clear the cpc being a hodgepodge of the centre right and populists isn’t healthy
this is why I wish we had a better electoral system so parties could be their own thing
I don’t think most of the actual policies are even that far out of step with most Canadians. The opposite actually, I think they match up better.
In terms of the people that the modern Conservative Party and the conservative movement in general attracts though? Increasingly it is a place for people like Scheer/Pollievre who are hyper partisan, make politics their entire personality and have zero experience outside of politics.
The wider population doesn’t like these people. They are off putting and frankly kind of weird. The worst part is that they know how to work within their own circles and drum up the base, but that’s where it ends. So they beat out better candidates and dissuade nornal people from getting involved in politics. They also lack substance. And I voted for the CPC last election.
Another split would do them some good. I don’t think it will happen though. The reform ones are the ones likely to split off but they are running the show.
The PCs will suffer in silence and bite their tongue forever imo.
The Canadian Future party needs to be a little bit louder on these times methinks. Since their policies are more inline with the PCs of old as well
Hard to overstate how hollowed out the CPC is. Poilievre is just the last man standing he only became Tory leader after literally everyone else who was supposed to become Tory leader either flamed out or dropped out of politics between 2015 and 2022.
So I think the CPC strategists were thinking they could win by doing two things: 1) follow the GOP strategy of engaging the far-right electorate in Canada who largely didn’t vote, and appeal to them with grievance messaging, and 2) lean into Trudeau hate and wait for the Liberals to become toxic. They achieved both , and successfully suppressed the PPC vote and got many further right voters off the couch. However the second point slipped away when the Liberals successfully pivoted, elected a leader viewed as correcting all the Trudeau wrongs, and then met the Trump moment better in the election campaign. Now the CPC predicament is tough. By leaning so far right, so angry, so combative, they’ve alienated the moderate voters (former PCs or CPC/Liberal switchers), AND scared NDP voters into voting Liberal. They kind screwed themsleves when their all-in grievance gambit didn’t quite work
Well Mulroney’s big tent meant blue liberals, not anti vax, conspiracy theorists, America, racists, and Alberta’s separatists.