No shit Sherlock… has nothing to do with the increasing costs of everything year on year and not having availability for couples to live in their own houses
Alastor001 on
Hmm, now, why would that be?
Less young people?
Lower birth rate?
Nowhere to rent?
No house to buy?
Everything costs an arm and a leg?
None of the above?
Dazzling_Lobster3656 on
115 workers for ever 100 not working now in 2025
Project to drop to 98 for every 100
Full employment, lowest unemployment in history of the state
Tiny-Blacksmith1146 on
Anecdotally, a lot of the wrong people are also having kids. Lots of single mothers too choosing the Social Welfare lifestyle. Plus, immigration will be used to plug this gap.
You can go back and forth on these issues all day but one thing is for sure: Ireland will be a very different place in 20 years time and social cohesion will plummet.
Shit ingredients. Shit pie. Go figure.
(Edited to clarify Social Welfare)
xelas1983 on
Ironically this is one of the reasons we should be encouraging immigration into Ireland. In 40 years, we will need that workforce from countries with higher birth rates.
The problem in Ireland is how Dublin Centric everything is. If you could spread the immigrant friendly work around the country, it would take the pressure off housing in Dublin. At the moment, everyone just pours into Dublin from both inside Ireland and abroad.
I want immigration into Ireland, I just want it managed better.
But isn’t that why our Hotels are now filled with Doctors, Lawyers and Engineers from the 3rd World? To pay our pensions and fund out infrastructures?
midland05 on
Time for the life time dole career people to change jobs
RandomRedditor_1916 on
Cost of living, lack of housing and childcare coming back to bite us on the arse.
SnooChickens1534 on
If you didn’t spend billions on ipas centres, would it not counteract the fall in revenue ?
carlmango11 on
And yet the young will join in with the older generations to oppose rises to the pension age.
WolfetoneRebel on
Up pension age. Cut welfare. Offer 100% free childcare through tax rebates. Problem fixed.
slevinonion on
They should raise the pension more than inflation every year like they’ve been doing. Genius.
Grand_Bit4912 on
“The reports notes the current Government is committed to building 300,000 by 2030 and assumes housing supply will reach 60,000 that year.”
It’s basing its ‘housing will stabilise by 2040’ on these figures that are clearly complete pie in the sky. We’re knocking out 30k homes per year, so we’re on course to be closer to 150k than 300k by 2030.
“The report outlines a number of scenarios for growth in the population reaching between 5.9m and 7.9m by 2065 depending on immigration and fertility rates.”
The population will grow by 450k or maybe by 2.45m, we dunno really but kinda somewhere in that region, maybe. What?
Edit: corrected population growth
dropthecoin on
As expected, This thread is full of people speculating the reason based on what likely impacts them and what are the most recent impacts to society. Disregarding the fact that birth rates have been falling for 45 years. And even more importantly this current trend is not unique to Ireland
Irish201h on
What the government needs to do then is incentivise people to have more children. iE Future tax payers
davesr25 on
*“Lads can you leave me alone while I make as much money as I can, I know the loop holes, I have the buddies, just let me make as much as I can, fuck the future“*
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BlackTideEnjoyer on
We are on a collision course with a crisis that will make our current housing and cost of living crisis look like the celtic tiger in retrospect.
whooo_me on
I mean, Ireland has the youngest population in the EU, and with the high rate of (typically, young) immigration it’s likely to stay that way for some time.
But it seems Ireland is like most/all other countries, in that it’s basically one big pyramid scheme. We need more than one worker to support/pay for the welfare and healthcare of one non-working person. So we need a constantly growing population or the system falls down. But endless growth isn’t sustainable, and we’re already seeing how it can cause the cost-of-living to spiral if it happens too quickly.
Hot_Grocery8187 on
No Country For Young Men
Moist-Dependent5241 on
Zero interest loans for homes to families with 2 or more children. Also Irish only families lol.
jhanley on
This is why they’re importing so many workers. Capital and wealth is getting heavily concentrated and the working and middle classes are getting squeezed. Were following the UK route of depending on a lot of foreign labour to fund our welfare state
sureyouknowurself on
Don’t rely on having a state pension, my bet is it will be means tested and you won’t be entitled if you have a private pension.
Would not surprise me if they raid private pensions too.
whereohwhereohwhere on
Because everyone of child having age is still living in a house share and can barely feed themselves
Shoddy-Estate-8653 on
I can’t wait for them to put up the pension age and then they have finally done it. The point of no return. They’ll be banished in the elections.
No_Reason_8214 on
I swear to God this is them lining up to push out the pension age – STOP WASTING OUR MONEY AND USE IT WISELY !!!!!!!!!!
Separate-Sand2034 on
Im at the age where I should be considering having kids and am on a decent income. Not a hope Im having kids while renting
Harneybus on
i wonder why oh yeah young people moving out, cant wfford a house or best yet cant even buy a hosue, cant afford rent so live with parents, cant get a job caus eof no expericen there smore
wascallywabbit666 on
This applies to every developed country in the world
Educational-Pay4112 on
Be like Hungary. Give tax breaks to people who have more kids
tubbymaguire91 on
Implements policies that forces all our young people to Australia:
Wonders why there is no young people driving the future tax base.
jonnieggg on
Pump up those taxes were loaded
messinginhessen on
Huh, guess we better import a load of people who don’t work…wait, what?
phoenixhunter on
it’s a real shame that nobody ever saw this coming or wrote any warnings that this might happen. totally blindsided. oh well, Pascal will be happily retired on his own robust pensions and investments before the real shit hits the fan so what the fuck does he care.
AsideAsleep4700 on
If these pricks now expect us to work til 70 I will lose it
BraveUnion on
This is only the beginning. It’s not just an aging population but it’s gonna be a steep decline in couples and even more so in babies. By the time we all get old the working glass will be made up of way more foreigner.
tisashambles on
Like Pascal gives a flying fuck
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No shit Sherlock… has nothing to do with the increasing costs of everything year on year and not having availability for couples to live in their own houses
Hmm, now, why would that be?
Less young people?
Lower birth rate?
Nowhere to rent?
No house to buy?
Everything costs an arm and a leg?
None of the above?
115 workers for ever 100 not working now in 2025
Project to drop to 98 for every 100
Full employment, lowest unemployment in history of the state
Anecdotally, a lot of the wrong people are also having kids. Lots of single mothers too choosing the Social Welfare lifestyle. Plus, immigration will be used to plug this gap.
You can go back and forth on these issues all day but one thing is for sure: Ireland will be a very different place in 20 years time and social cohesion will plummet.
Shit ingredients. Shit pie. Go figure.
(Edited to clarify Social Welfare)
Ironically this is one of the reasons we should be encouraging immigration into Ireland. In 40 years, we will need that workforce from countries with higher birth rates.
The problem in Ireland is how Dublin Centric everything is. If you could spread the immigrant friendly work around the country, it would take the pressure off housing in Dublin. At the moment, everyone just pours into Dublin from both inside Ireland and abroad.
I want immigration into Ireland, I just want it managed better.
https://preview.redd.it/0jno48ya2azf1.jpeg?width=310&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=69794a3b9d9593a041853f8bed4239d295e0a737
But isn’t that why our Hotels are now filled with Doctors, Lawyers and Engineers from the 3rd World? To pay our pensions and fund out infrastructures?
Time for the life time dole career people to change jobs
Cost of living, lack of housing and childcare coming back to bite us on the arse.
If you didn’t spend billions on ipas centres, would it not counteract the fall in revenue ?
And yet the young will join in with the older generations to oppose rises to the pension age.
Up pension age. Cut welfare. Offer 100% free childcare through tax rebates. Problem fixed.
They should raise the pension more than inflation every year like they’ve been doing. Genius.
“The reports notes the current Government is committed to building 300,000 by 2030 and assumes housing supply will reach 60,000 that year.”
It’s basing its ‘housing will stabilise by 2040’ on these figures that are clearly complete pie in the sky. We’re knocking out 30k homes per year, so we’re on course to be closer to 150k than 300k by 2030.
“The report outlines a number of scenarios for growth in the population reaching between 5.9m and 7.9m by 2065 depending on immigration and fertility rates.”
The population will grow by 450k or maybe by 2.45m, we dunno really but kinda somewhere in that region, maybe. What?
Edit: corrected population growth
As expected, This thread is full of people speculating the reason based on what likely impacts them and what are the most recent impacts to society. Disregarding the fact that birth rates have been falling for 45 years. And even more importantly this current trend is not unique to Ireland
What the government needs to do then is incentivise people to have more children. iE Future tax payers
*“Lads can you leave me alone while I make as much money as I can, I know the loop holes, I have the buddies, just let me make as much as I can, fuck the future“*
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We are on a collision course with a crisis that will make our current housing and cost of living crisis look like the celtic tiger in retrospect.
I mean, Ireland has the youngest population in the EU, and with the high rate of (typically, young) immigration it’s likely to stay that way for some time.
But it seems Ireland is like most/all other countries, in that it’s basically one big pyramid scheme. We need more than one worker to support/pay for the welfare and healthcare of one non-working person. So we need a constantly growing population or the system falls down. But endless growth isn’t sustainable, and we’re already seeing how it can cause the cost-of-living to spiral if it happens too quickly.
No Country For Young Men
Zero interest loans for homes to families with 2 or more children. Also Irish only families lol.
This is why they’re importing so many workers. Capital and wealth is getting heavily concentrated and the working and middle classes are getting squeezed. Were following the UK route of depending on a lot of foreign labour to fund our welfare state
Don’t rely on having a state pension, my bet is it will be means tested and you won’t be entitled if you have a private pension.
Would not surprise me if they raid private pensions too.
Because everyone of child having age is still living in a house share and can barely feed themselves
I can’t wait for them to put up the pension age and then they have finally done it. The point of no return. They’ll be banished in the elections.
I swear to God this is them lining up to push out the pension age – STOP WASTING OUR MONEY AND USE IT WISELY !!!!!!!!!!
Im at the age where I should be considering having kids and am on a decent income. Not a hope Im having kids while renting
i wonder why oh yeah young people moving out, cant wfford a house or best yet cant even buy a hosue, cant afford rent so live with parents, cant get a job caus eof no expericen there smore
This applies to every developed country in the world
Be like Hungary. Give tax breaks to people who have more kids
Implements policies that forces all our young people to Australia:
Wonders why there is no young people driving the future tax base.
Pump up those taxes were loaded
Huh, guess we better import a load of people who don’t work…wait, what?
it’s a real shame that nobody ever saw this coming or wrote any warnings that this might happen. totally blindsided. oh well, Pascal will be happily retired on his own robust pensions and investments before the real shit hits the fan so what the fuck does he care.
If these pricks now expect us to work til 70 I will lose it
This is only the beginning. It’s not just an aging population but it’s gonna be a steep decline in couples and even more so in babies. By the time we all get old the working glass will be made up of way more foreigner.
Like Pascal gives a flying fuck