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    1. snazzydesign on

      Absolute populist tactics after what’s happened in citywest and the election spoilt vote – before this anyone voicing concerns were far right or racist –

    2. Surely failed asylum seekers should be returned to their own country or to the last country they came from? Why keep paying for someone who failed the asylum process?

    3. Seargentyates on

      Well it seems that we are approximately 15 months behind the UK in policy, how it works is that the UK announce a policy, we’re horrified by it, before slowly coming around – the whole process takes 15 months. 15 months is the populist clock that our politicians use.

    4. sureyouknowurself on

      > “That’s significant, because it really points to that what you’re looking at here is economic migration primarily,” Mr Martin said.

      We have all known forever that the vast vast majority are economic migrants. Huge amount of people lining their pockets from this.

      If having offshore deportation hubs helps we should 100% use it.

    5. cacamilis22 on

      Good man Michael. Tell them what they want to hear and then don’t bother your arse doing anything.

    6. Pathetic pandering. The presidential election has absolutely rattled the two big parties and now they’re engaging in classic populist rubbish. And the worst part, the people that feel obligated to riot in citywest won’t even listen to them.

    7. Australia used to have hundreds of boats landing per year with asylum seekers.

      The eventually implemented 2 policies. 

      Firstly the navy would patrol and turn back boats.

      Secondly, people who had come were deported to Nauru while their application was processed. 

      The policies were very effective. Killed the boats issue dead. 

      I’m not saying it is ethical but it worked. 

      Mark my words, sooner or later these policies will spread to the UK and Ireland. 

    8. Could, explore and says. We need some action yesterday buddy. This is why the right is gaining a few suppors every single day 

    9. the_sneaky_one123 on

      Or just properly run the system as it is an avoid spending 5 years on each individual case.

    10. Jesus that was quick, from Simon’s ‘somebody should do something!’ a couple days ago straight to refugee island

    11. DonQuigleone on

      Personally I don’t see a problem with offshore processing of asylum claims :
      A) it saves money, housing asylum seekers in Ireland is multiple times more expensive in Ireland than it would be in some developing country, even with identical facilities.

      b) Irish asylum facilities have been chronically short of space. Better to throw up facilities in Uganda and allow Irish hotels to house tourists and not asylum applicants.

      C) it puts off most economic migrants masquerading as asylum seekers, most are not going to attempt a dangerous crossing if it means being stuck in a facility on the other side of the world, unless they’re truly desperate (and the asylum system is meant to be for the truly desperate).

      D) It defuses a far right talking point while doing nothing truly substantive. Going further on the current course is only likely to further radicalise more Irish people into the far right. It’s already the case that we had 12% spoiled votes (most from far right voters) while only a few years ago far right EU parliament candidates just got a few % between them. If the rate of migration is arrested, the growth of the far right will likewise drop.

      E) We don’t owe migrants or asylum seekers a particular standard of living. If they throw themselves on our charity they have to accept the terms. We have a moral obligation to accept and help asylum seekers, but that’s it. 

    12. This is actually ridiculous. Do they not see what damaged imitating Reform has done to Labour in the UK?

      Between this and Simon’s little performance this week, the pandering to racists is shocking. 

      MM and SH need to step down immediately. They are shameless and just awful leaders. I’m shocked they are still there. The main reason I could get behind any concern around asylum seeker debate is the cost to the taxpayer but how on earth would this improve that?

      Even still it’s not high on my list. They’re doing more for this (or so they say) than any other issue that is actually tangible like healthcare, transport, housing etc 

      It sounds like a concentration camp. Genuinely feel disgusted reading that. They should ship this prick off to an island.

    13. Looks like the spoil the vote campaign has spooked Micael and Simon big time with the statements they’ve come out with this week regarding asylum seekers. All talk though, actions will speak louder

    14. Do they really have to follow all of the worst ideas the Tories have on everything?

    15. Useless twats embarrass themselves during the presidential election and it’s straight to pandering to the far right.

    16. Ah yeah, because the Rwanda scheme worked brilliantly for the UK. You know, maybe instead, you should have more restrictions placed on non-EU and non-UK residents at ports of entry and increased vetting and security checks and properly enforce deportations of those abusing the asylum system or the economic immigration system.

    17. Internal_Sun_9632 on

      99% of headlines these days. „Could“, „May“, „Potentially“ and other non committal shite.

    18. CAPITALISM_FAN_1980 on

      It is so fucking depressing how predictable this is.

      FG loses to the left and panics. Instead of asking what went wrong, they chase the fantasy that the far right are just disaffected FG voters waiting to be reclaimed, so they start echoing far-right talking points to appeal to them.

      But they will never win those voters back. Ever.

      Anyone on the far right will see them for exactly what they are: desperate centrists playing dress-up. Meanwhile, their own base will drift right, absorbing the new rhetoric, and once that happens, why would anyone vote for a watered-down imitation when the full-strength, openly fascist version is right there on the ballot?

      „Sure didn’t he build the autobahn?“

      Here’s what’s going to happen: they’ll get good coverage on this from the media and right-wing commentators, and they’ll think they’re onto a winner. So they’ll keep going down this path, and within a few years, when the dust settles, they’ll either be a straight-up far-right party themselves, or they’ll have lost their place in Irish politics to a new far-right party that doesn’t bother with the pretence.

    19. lol and on this sub a year ago you were all slating the UK for being horrible for trying to implement this

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