The fact that Obama care needs to be subsidized proves that it doesn’t bring cost down. That was what we were initially told it would do.
NormalAtmosphere8274 on
I, for one, from my anecdotal evidence can vouch that ACA is complete shit. I needed to apply for it in 2014, $0 income $0 everything and the best deal was about $900/month for a 15k deductible plan.
Yes, I understand that I should have applied for Medicaid instead but my point still stands. ACA is neither affordable, nor healthcare due to its insane deductible
roofrunn3r on
Just got to review our health care open enrollment options today. Needless to say the whole family is going uninsured next year. Fuck this shit. 15k in a year for insurance. We’ll just put it in savings instead
DifferentAd4862 on
My biggest problem is they used cutting it to put 3x the tax cuts, where the CBO predicts 92% of the benefit goes to the 1%.
It also demonstrated why flat tax fails.
Megacorps pulling in massive bucks went from 39% to 21%.
Small businesses had a rate hike. The lowest bracket was 15%, they now had to pay 21%.
All at a cost of loss of revenue 3x the cost.
Which means the rich and corps have more money to buy out properties.
Which means there is more money in circulation.
Which means the US has to borrow more money, devaluing your money.
I’d rather poor folks have more medical insurance than the 1% screwing us over even more.
The point of raising interest rates is to pull money out of the economy to lower inflation. When we can simply not take money from poor folks medical insurance to give more money to the 1%.
MenagerieAlfred on
Ok, yes, let’s replace it with Medicare for all!
Few_Ad_4197 on
They are not here to help us. They are here to keep us poor. We need to dismantle the whole system. Why are they getting paid while poor people will soon be starving?.
LeoLaDawg on
Obamacare was a terrible solution. I don’t expect anything good from Trump, but just saying.
CarpeDiemRepeat on
„Do something Democrats“… does this mf know he’s the president of the country?
It’s still seriously so weird having a president of the free world talk like an angry teenager.
TarTarkus1 on
Seems like it’s a great time to be a private insurer. Nice to know Obama was able to retire to Martha’s Vineyard.
Shartsifter on
I miss the old r/conspiracy. When people were pulling documents from abovetopsecret.com and discussing possible bases on the moon. This sub blows now.
PaulRyansWifesSon on
You can blame a lot on Trump but democrats wrote these enhanced ACA subsidies to expire in 3 years despite the fact that they had both houses of Congress and the presidency when they passed the ARP and IRA that extended the enhanced subsidies. They did this to themselves.
username2br02b on
Prices are not going to rise. They are going to revert back to pre Covid rates. The subsidies that are in place were never meant to be permanent and are set to expire soon. ACA sucks. It sucked before Trump and it’ll suck long after Trump.
Entire-Ratio-9681 on
Yay for Obama care, pay $150 a month for insurance you’ll never be able to use because of the $7000 deductible. Glad it helps everyone but the working poor tho.
Purple_Golf1088 on
Obamacare is fascism. The government forcing you to purchase from private enterprise is pretty darn fascist.
Taipoe on
Obamacare is genuinely awful tho
RedJerzey on
It simply does not renew the subsidies that fooled people into thinking it would be cheap. The democrats put the end date on the subsidies.
Snukadaman on
Anyone paying attention already knows this.
SnooWoofers530 on
What happened that huge book that was his healthcare plan from 2020?
ProfessorPihkal on
They’ll replace it with the exact same thing, but it’ll be called Trumpcare and stupid republicans will eat it up.
r2k398 on
If it’s only affordable because of the temporary expanded subsidies they passed during Covid recovery, is it really affordable?
LeftyBoyo on
Trump didn’t raise rates. Obamacare just pushed out the subsidy timeline so they would expire after he was out of office. This was his deal.
SoftResponse4736 on
My healthcare provider sent me a letter specifically saying the rate increase was due to the big beautiful bill and then said the administration is cutting subsidies
GeniusEE on
„obamacare“ would not pass until the Republicans and that cnut Lieberman got their way and killed single payer
Obama signed it into law, but it is a Republican contraption.
fjortisar on
He’s had 10 years to come up with a better plan. They haven’t presented any plan, let alone one that could be better. it’s just bitch and moan and blame it on somebody else
genrej on
The rates have been bad for years, it was always a shit deal.
Podwitchers on
Are his followers really this stupid?
drcobosjr on
This dude hates Obama sooooooooo much
MrNMTrue505 on
🎯🎯🎯 yup trump wants Americans to suffer… not have Healthcare and die off or soon use their (goverment) Healthcare replacement. Which may mean getting a chip in your wrist.
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The fact that Obama care needs to be subsidized proves that it doesn’t bring cost down. That was what we were initially told it would do.
I, for one, from my anecdotal evidence can vouch that ACA is complete shit. I needed to apply for it in 2014, $0 income $0 everything and the best deal was about $900/month for a 15k deductible plan.
Yes, I understand that I should have applied for Medicaid instead but my point still stands. ACA is neither affordable, nor healthcare due to its insane deductible
Just got to review our health care open enrollment options today. Needless to say the whole family is going uninsured next year. Fuck this shit. 15k in a year for insurance. We’ll just put it in savings instead
My biggest problem is they used cutting it to put 3x the tax cuts, where the CBO predicts 92% of the benefit goes to the 1%.
It also demonstrated why flat tax fails.
Megacorps pulling in massive bucks went from 39% to 21%.
Small businesses had a rate hike. The lowest bracket was 15%, they now had to pay 21%.
All at a cost of loss of revenue 3x the cost.
Which means the rich and corps have more money to buy out properties.
Which means there is more money in circulation.
Which means the US has to borrow more money, devaluing your money.
I’d rather poor folks have more medical insurance than the 1% screwing us over even more.
The point of raising interest rates is to pull money out of the economy to lower inflation. When we can simply not take money from poor folks medical insurance to give more money to the 1%.
Ok, yes, let’s replace it with Medicare for all!
They are not here to help us. They are here to keep us poor. We need to dismantle the whole system. Why are they getting paid while poor people will soon be starving?.
Obamacare was a terrible solution. I don’t expect anything good from Trump, but just saying.
„Do something Democrats“… does this mf know he’s the president of the country?
It’s still seriously so weird having a president of the free world talk like an angry teenager.
Seems like it’s a great time to be a private insurer. Nice to know Obama was able to retire to Martha’s Vineyard.
I miss the old r/conspiracy. When people were pulling documents from abovetopsecret.com and discussing possible bases on the moon. This sub blows now.
You can blame a lot on Trump but democrats wrote these enhanced ACA subsidies to expire in 3 years despite the fact that they had both houses of Congress and the presidency when they passed the ARP and IRA that extended the enhanced subsidies. They did this to themselves.
Prices are not going to rise. They are going to revert back to pre Covid rates. The subsidies that are in place were never meant to be permanent and are set to expire soon. ACA sucks. It sucked before Trump and it’ll suck long after Trump.
Yay for Obama care, pay $150 a month for insurance you’ll never be able to use because of the $7000 deductible. Glad it helps everyone but the working poor tho.
Obamacare is fascism. The government forcing you to purchase from private enterprise is pretty darn fascist.
Obamacare is genuinely awful tho
It simply does not renew the subsidies that fooled people into thinking it would be cheap. The democrats put the end date on the subsidies.
Anyone paying attention already knows this.
What happened that huge book that was his healthcare plan from 2020?
They’ll replace it with the exact same thing, but it’ll be called Trumpcare and stupid republicans will eat it up.
If it’s only affordable because of the temporary expanded subsidies they passed during Covid recovery, is it really affordable?
Trump didn’t raise rates. Obamacare just pushed out the subsidy timeline so they would expire after he was out of office. This was his deal.
My healthcare provider sent me a letter specifically saying the rate increase was due to the big beautiful bill and then said the administration is cutting subsidies
„obamacare“ would not pass until the Republicans and that cnut Lieberman got their way and killed single payer
Obama signed it into law, but it is a Republican contraption.
He’s had 10 years to come up with a better plan. They haven’t presented any plan, let alone one that could be better. it’s just bitch and moan and blame it on somebody else
The rates have been bad for years, it was always a shit deal.
Are his followers really this stupid?
This dude hates Obama sooooooooo much
🎯🎯🎯 yup trump wants Americans to suffer… not have Healthcare and die off or soon use their (goverment) Healthcare replacement. Which may mean getting a chip in your wrist.