Personal Trainer Karl Henry: „Wenn Sie einen Stein verlieren müssen, müssen Sie keine Medikamente zur Gewichtsreduktion einnehmen“ | Irischer Unabhängiger
https://m.independent.ie/life/health-wellbeing/personal-trainer-karl-henry-if-you-need-to-lose-a-stone-you-dont-need-to-go-on-weight-loss-medication/a1184644192.html
Von WickerMan111
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> Wellness expert
lol
No you don’t, but you can, so fuck off and let people make their own decisions.
Yeah, you can lose 1.7 stone by cutting of a leg
I love how triggered Reddit will get by this simple statement of fact.
Fact! Once you go on those jabs you are on them for life.
He’s not wrong – you don’t *need* to, and you probably shouldn’t.
But, assuming you’re fully informed and aware of the risks, and there are risks, you can.
I would think that if it’s the option between doing that or *not* losing a stone (that is 6.4kg, which isn’t an inconsiderable amount), then the option to use weight loss medication isn’t the worst one.
However, weight loss isn’t the only issue, and there are benefits to making the changes to your lifestyle to actively lose that weight. Eating healthier (not just less), and the physical and mental benefits of exercise are things you don’t get from weight loss meds, and there are no side effects, which is something that is often overlooked.
Expend more calories than you intake. Ideally to a deficit of 3,500 a week. Thats it, thats always how its been. Its how I dropped from 90kg to 70.
He is so wise 🙃
Are people really doing this to lose a stone? I thought the doctors would be a bit stricter about prescribing weight loss medication, considering the high possibility of bad side effects.
Women take GLP1s because their weight gain is caused by female reproductive health.
Regardless, men can talk about male health, under no circumstances should they be commenting about female health unless they are a trained gynaecologist 🙂
He’s not wrong. The problem with these drugs is they dont build any good habits or structure your lfie in a way to lose weight and keep it off. My partner has struggled with her weight a lot since covid. I go to the gym religiously and always tried to get her to come with me or to try my diet plan but she never liked it. Finally she tried wegovy for a few months. She lost like 10kg and was chuffed with herself but never really learned how to cook and enjoy low calorie food or do any real excercise she just wasnt hungry so ate very [little.as](http://little.as) soon as she stopped taking it and her hunger and „food noise“ came back she gained every single kg back. She says her BF% was actually worse then before she took it too because she was eating so little and not working out during her time on Wegovy so she also lost any muscle she had while on it.
A year after that she took it again but this time locked in on her diet and came to the gym with me. Re lost all the weight again but her composition was way better than the first time and shes been off GLP1 drugs for almsot a year now and has kept all the weight off.
So they do work but these people who think its a magic pill that’ll finally shed their weight off are right but you’ll still need to learn the same habits you would have if you’d lost the weight normally if you want to keep it off.
Exercise won’t make much of a dent either. It’s all about what you eat.
My own GP struggled with his weight for years.
He Went on the jabs earlier this year and lost a load of weight.
He is very open about it.
We have decades of research that show a large % of people who are over weight arent just „lazy“ or „weak willed“.
Weird how someone massively invested in selling his own ways of losing weight would be against other ways…
Didn’t read the full article as it’s behind a pay wall but I mean this headline isn’t wrong. And these meds do have side effects. Not to mention rapid weight loss is not good for you.
To me it doesn’t seem worth it unless you’re overweight enough that it’s got out of control and really affects your health. I don’t think we should normalise taking Ozempic to slim down for the beach, not until it’s been further studied anyway
But sure look it’s a free country at the end of the day
My favourite weightloss tip I heard recently “It’s your elbow. Every time your elbow bends, your fucking mouth opens.”
True, one can lose a stone but evidence shows that the vast majority will put it back on in the long term.
The medications help with keeping it off long term.
A can of tuna, a shot of whiskey and a Clint Eastwood movie. Everyday for a year.
This is a bit of a non issue in Ireland though. You need to meet the BMI and health condition criteria, it’s a prescription drug
I remember the father Pat Henry giving a talk in work years ago, we howled…eat just pears he said ! Er…no thanks!
Is it bad that I’m enjoying all these health and fitness ‘experts’ on the socials losing their mind because people are getting great results on these medications and no longer buying their diarrhea tea supplements and exercise plans?
I am near the end of 75 hard, got 6 days left so far, I have lost 10.2kg or 1 stone 7lb, it genuinely has been easy. Cut our snacks, followed a small calorie deficit, walked 10k steps most days and headed to the gym an average of 3 times a week.
I think most people just need to be better at time management. Instead of watching TV in the evening, head out for a walk, or take a short walk on your lunch break.
Edit: Worth saying that the only thing that I really changed from the norm was cutting out snacks and getting 10k steps a day. I was already going to the gym, getting the odd run in and I would in general be fairly fit.
I’m sick of people who are not doctors, dieticians or pharmacist giving their opinions on weight loss medicines
I get the knee jerk reaction of just stop being lazy.
But this is not what evidence suggests. In inpatient settings, some people who are chronically obese cannot loose weight and there is huge evidence for genetic an hormonal factors to this.
Not sure about the ozempic. Seeing celebrities who’ve been on it they get very gaunt looking in the face.
He’s not wrong.
Once you learn at least the basics about nutrition and how weight loss works, it’s genuinely not that difficult to lose a stone unless you’re already in decent shape in my opinion . But it is boring
Cravings can be easy enough to manage by making sure you’re eating enough food to keep you full and not totally getting rid of the things you want.
I understand some people have mental health problems which make it much more complicated, those are a different case
Feck off karl
A stone ?
Like a rock or something ?
Captain Obvious
I can see his point, purely based on the headline.
I’m on Mounjaro at the moment, and I lost my first 5kg before starting it.
All in I’ve lost 18.2kg from 103.8 to 85.5kg – which is 2 stone 12lbs down from 16 stone 5lbs to 13 stone 6.8lbs.
This is maybe the 3rd structured diet that I’ve tried where I’m weighing every day and tracking calories with an app (Cronometer) having been overweight / obese for the last 15 years.
Previously the most I lost was 8kg. And the difference this time is significant. It’s shut off my appetite for the first 3 months, somewhat back now.
It also makes it harder for my body to absorb calories from what I do eat.
Both of those have made the hard moments so much easier, it’s helping me kill those „ooh need a biscuit“ thoughts, and I literally haven’t binged once since starting.
Binging usually derails my diets because it brings shame, and feelings of failure.
I’d guess that it’s made my diet 50% easier mentally.
It is bloody expensive, I’m deeply fortunate that I can afford to shell out €300 per month for 10mg of the stuff.
I also live alone so I can simply not stock the fridge with anything other than my meal plan and remove a big source of temptation.
If you’re tempted by it, consider the expense and have a serious discussion with your doctor about the side effects. I did find my obesity specialist a bit blasé around it possibly increasing the chances of acute pancreatitis. Something I have had before (and do not recommend – 0/10).
As someone who’s just lost 17kg and counting since the summer, I’d agree.
As someone who’s lost that weight and gained it again at least two times before, what this doesn’t tell you how easy it is to gain that weight again
Karl Henry, the chap who for years promoted unhealthy and unsustainable weight loss on the show operation transformation.
That show has dated so bloody poorly, the way they treated people on it was awful.