These Swedish jets are just what Ukraine needs to turn the tide and win the war. They are perfectly designed with all the capabilities that Ukraine needs to take back their own airspace.
Kageru on
Ideally their role is to defend a free Ukraine and deter any future Russian aggression.
But this gives more production volume to European planes, keeps more money and tech in Europe and provides the potential to gain combat experience and testing in a European ground war in addition to the opportunities it provides to the Ukrainians.
thatasianguy88 on
Do you think it’s hard for Putin to come to terms with losing a war while being a nuclear power ?
henchman171 on
Canada needs these as well
Saladin-Ayubi on
Ok. So we have had Javelins, HIMARS, Abrams, Leopards and F-16s. How are Gripens going to win the war? Ukraine is running out of fighting men not weapons. As hard as it is to stomach, we may have to accept that the war against Russia is lost unless NATO officially intervenes.
kalnaren on
Headline is clickbate.
This is an order for Gripen Es that will be delivered in **10-15 years**. It’s not Sweden sending over a bunch of its old C/D models.
> „Under the agreement signed on Oct. 22, Ukraine plans to purchase between 100 and 150 JAS 39 Gripen E fighter jets — the latest variant of Sweden’s aircraft. However, Swedish Prime Minister Ulf Kristersson cautioned that the deal is „a journey for 10 to 15 years“ and **does not include immediate deliveries.**“
deepbluemeanies on
I don’t see that they bring much more than what the F16 and Mirage already offer…the issue is the very long range of modern AD and the fact these jets are not stealth at all meaning they have to be kept low, and well back from the line.
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These Swedish jets are just what Ukraine needs to turn the tide and win the war. They are perfectly designed with all the capabilities that Ukraine needs to take back their own airspace.
Ideally their role is to defend a free Ukraine and deter any future Russian aggression.
But this gives more production volume to European planes, keeps more money and tech in Europe and provides the potential to gain combat experience and testing in a European ground war in addition to the opportunities it provides to the Ukrainians.
Do you think it’s hard for Putin to come to terms with losing a war while being a nuclear power ?
Canada needs these as well
Ok. So we have had Javelins, HIMARS, Abrams, Leopards and F-16s. How are Gripens going to win the war? Ukraine is running out of fighting men not weapons. As hard as it is to stomach, we may have to accept that the war against Russia is lost unless NATO officially intervenes.
Headline is clickbate.
This is an order for Gripen Es that will be delivered in **10-15 years**. It’s not Sweden sending over a bunch of its old C/D models.
> „Under the agreement signed on Oct. 22, Ukraine plans to purchase between 100 and 150 JAS 39 Gripen E fighter jets — the latest variant of Sweden’s aircraft. However, Swedish Prime Minister Ulf Kristersson cautioned that the deal is „a journey for 10 to 15 years“ and **does not include immediate deliveries.**“
I don’t see that they bring much more than what the F16 and Mirage already offer…the issue is the very long range of modern AD and the fact these jets are not stealth at all meaning they have to be kept low, and well back from the line.