The (first) Cold War and hence the geopoltical East/West divide are long gone.
Anton_astro_UA on
Russian 1320000 from which they’ve already lost 1140000. I don’t say that Ukrainian losses are small, but the fact that Russia is still fighting over such high price is absurd
HunterThin870 on
Belarus numbers are the most surprising. They probably use them for internal repression.
The_Cers on
„Blue countries“ smh
JetlinerDiner on
*personnel. It’s even in the picture.
augustus331 on
Weird arbitrary map. Finland is eastern Europe for some reason? And Czechia has always been a weird one to me. Prague is more to the West than Berlin. It’s only reason being clumped into an „Eastern Europe“ section is to align with **Stalin’s post-war propaganda** with the assumption of a so-called „Eastern Europe“ in a Russian sphere of influence.
Ask a Czech, they’ll say they’re Central European. Ask a Lithuanian, they’ll say they’re Baltic. Ask a Finn, Scandinavian.
Eastern Europe is an antiquated term working in favour of Moscow’s narrative.
Objective_Ad_9581 on
A if hungary and slovakia would defy their lord.
MidnightNinja9 on
Yeah but there is a problem with Poland. Many of our people serve the army for duty but would never go to war, not for this government at least
Vast-Negotiation-358 on
These kind of maps are so misleading. These numbers mean nothing because they compare apples to oranges.
For example Finish army is conscription army which mean that at daily basis they only keep skeleton army made out of officers + the current batch of conscripted. In case of crisi or war, their army will unfold (similarly to Israel) into hundreds if thousands man of medium experience.
Russian army is mix of both, with depleted conscripts because they burn them during war, but also structural issues because before war they were trying to switch into professional model.
Polish army is probably the least responsive, it can quickly grow maybe twofold. But when its mechanisms of conscription kick in, we are talking about army probably bigger than Ukrainian.
Ukrainian on the other hand is already at full throttle, the same way as Russians but harder.
Sea_Square638 on
The map doesn’t seem up to date
sovietarmyfan on
It seems so small compared to Russia and Ukraine’s populations. Russia has 143 million people while Ukraine has around 37 million, maybe less due to refugees.
The Red army had around 11 million active personel in 1945 while the USSR had around 170 million citizens.
WillLife on
That is why the only way to defeat Russia is with the economy. A war would be a massacre for everyone.
Grouchy_Shallot50 on
Ukraine doesn’t hold any of Russia anymore so this is at least a year out of date
Adept_of_Yoga on
Don’t forget:
Russia is one military organization, with one chain of command, one common language and recent experience in modern warfare against regular armed forces.
So numbers alone don’t show the actual strength necessarily.
rants_unnecessarily on
There are about 24k conscripts in the Finnish military at any given moment, ontop of that there are a little less than 9k military personnel.
FGSM219 on
This is a map several months old as it still shows the Ukrainian incursion into Kursk.
yomismovaya on
In Russia before the war roughly 500k were military police.
SuddenMud4987 on
It’s absolutely bullshit!! In Hungary officially there is about 25000 active personal in the army but it is included everyone with all the officers, administrative and kitchen staff as well. The real trained soldiers who could fight is about 7000-7500soldiers only.
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So many active personnel in Ukraine and Russia.
Whats going on ova there? 🤔
*Central and Eastern Europe
The (first) Cold War and hence the geopoltical East/West divide are long gone.
Russian 1320000 from which they’ve already lost 1140000. I don’t say that Ukrainian losses are small, but the fact that Russia is still fighting over such high price is absurd
Belarus numbers are the most surprising. They probably use them for internal repression.
„Blue countries“ smh
*personnel. It’s even in the picture.
Weird arbitrary map. Finland is eastern Europe for some reason? And Czechia has always been a weird one to me. Prague is more to the West than Berlin. It’s only reason being clumped into an „Eastern Europe“ section is to align with **Stalin’s post-war propaganda** with the assumption of a so-called „Eastern Europe“ in a Russian sphere of influence.
Ask a Czech, they’ll say they’re Central European. Ask a Lithuanian, they’ll say they’re Baltic. Ask a Finn, Scandinavian.
Eastern Europe is an antiquated term working in favour of Moscow’s narrative.
A if hungary and slovakia would defy their lord.
Yeah but there is a problem with Poland. Many of our people serve the army for duty but would never go to war, not for this government at least
These kind of maps are so misleading. These numbers mean nothing because they compare apples to oranges.
For example Finish army is conscription army which mean that at daily basis they only keep skeleton army made out of officers + the current batch of conscripted. In case of crisi or war, their army will unfold (similarly to Israel) into hundreds if thousands man of medium experience.
Russian army is mix of both, with depleted conscripts because they burn them during war, but also structural issues because before war they were trying to switch into professional model.
Polish army is probably the least responsive, it can quickly grow maybe twofold. But when its mechanisms of conscription kick in, we are talking about army probably bigger than Ukrainian.
Ukrainian on the other hand is already at full throttle, the same way as Russians but harder.
The map doesn’t seem up to date
It seems so small compared to Russia and Ukraine’s populations. Russia has 143 million people while Ukraine has around 37 million, maybe less due to refugees.
The Red army had around 11 million active personel in 1945 while the USSR had around 170 million citizens.
That is why the only way to defeat Russia is with the economy. A war would be a massacre for everyone.
Ukraine doesn’t hold any of Russia anymore so this is at least a year out of date
Don’t forget:
Russia is one military organization, with one chain of command, one common language and recent experience in modern warfare against regular armed forces.
So numbers alone don’t show the actual strength necessarily.
There are about 24k conscripts in the Finnish military at any given moment, ontop of that there are a little less than 9k military personnel.
This is a map several months old as it still shows the Ukrainian incursion into Kursk.
In Russia before the war roughly 500k were military police.
It’s absolutely bullshit!! In Hungary officially there is about 25000 active personal in the army but it is included everyone with all the officers, administrative and kitchen staff as well. The real trained soldiers who could fight is about 7000-7500soldiers only.