In Portugal, we usually have **two given names**, followed by **our mother’s and father’s surnames**. But it really depends some people have **five names** (like my mother, for example), while my father only has **three**. I even know a few people who have **six names** in total!
NoFewSatan on
Sort of depends. At least in Italy you’ll often officially see Surname-First Name. Certainly, for instance, if a doctor calls you from a waiting room or you’re giving your name for a hotel reservation, you’ll most likely hear that.
trapsl on
In Greece, we don’t have our father’s name. My name is just first name plus surname, and the only time i have to insert ny dad’s name is in official documents when they specifically ask for it.
ambeldit on
Blue region is always Fathers surname right? Why its not specified?
ROBANN_88 on
For the Spain one, if your surname is your parents surname, how does that work over generations?
Like, if your grandfathers surname is Hernandez and your grandmother is Rodriguez, then their kid, your dad would be Hernandez Rodriguez. And add your mother Garcia Antonio, then you would be Hernandez Rodriguez Garcia Antonio.
And then you have a kid with Gonzales Rafael, then your kid would have to be Hernandez Rodriguez Garcia Antonio Gonzales Rafael. Etc etc
It seems untenable in the long run. Or am i misunderstanding?
Leviton655 on
In Spain, it is the parents‘ choice which surname comes first
faddleboarding on
Reunified Cyprus
Vertitto on
in Poland we use both orders: first+last &last+first
GSoxx on
Pater semper incertus est!
AdminEating_Dragon on
Hungary having the same naming convention with China and Japan rather than any European or Middle Eastern country in between is a historical oddity.
CashLivid on
Nowadays in Spain people can change the order of surnames.
kryyova on
nope
in Ukraine it’s surname + first name + father’s name for official stuff like documents
and when you want to simply express respect to a person you would use first name + father’s name
but overall a lot of ukrainians want to get rid of father’s name and simply use the first name + surname
akurgo on
Red and orange is quite common in Norway as well, especially now when a lot of people get kids together without getting married.
NormalGuyEndSarcasm on
I want to point out that in Romania it’s in transition from surname first to surname second, thus it’s still a mixture in use.
Shadow_Ass on
How is it done in Hungary? Do you introduce yourself with your last name and people address you with your last name, like in Japan?
PreseDinca on
Seems to be inaccurate for Romania. Officially, the order has always been Surname + Firstname and in some instances they also require the father’s first name
OffsetCircle1 on
Iceland shifting concerningly close to Scotland, what are they planning
saythealphabet on
Iceland being the coolest European country yet again
zadiraines on
In former Soviet Union countries it was Surname First Name then Fathers name – the information on this map is wrong.
Mirar on
Doesn’t most of these have more than one first name? We have names like
Kullagårdens Anna Josefin Pipialia Knutsson-Von Helsing
but usually just written „Josefin Knutsson-Von Helsing“ because the other ones are spare and not in use, only *tilltalsnamn* is used unless needed. And both parents surnames can be combined into a new one.
The *order* is still correct though.
nim_opet on
Neither Iceland nor Russia/Belarus/Ukraine/Bulgaria etc are simply “father’s name”. It’s a patronymic – an adjective that denotes in Iceland often direct “-son/-daughter of” and in others “of…”
TSSalamander on
in norway, the law is very dumb as it’s customary to get both names of your parents. But we must relegate one to middle name status for no reason.
EGORKA7136 on
Wrong for Russia. Surname – first name – father’s name
BeerPoweredNonsense on
France is surname first.
DarqPikachu on
Now the question is, what is a surname?
As per the map, in Spain and Portugal, people don’t have surnames but use their mothers‘ and fathers‘ surnames (which they don’t have, as per the map). It might be better to say Name + Grandfather’s name (mom’s side) + Grandfather’s name (dad’s side), etc. I’m not sure if it is the case for those countries (and I understood correctly) but map is so confusing not gonna lie.
And for Slavic (For Bulgaria at least) countries on the map, afaik, there’s no surname. It is Name + Father’s name + Grandfather’s name. When they go international, mostly the grandfather’s name is treated as the surname. And some countries (Russia) even doesn’t include the Father’s name in the international documents.
Demoliri on
In southern Germany (especially Swabia), second name first is also very common.
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In Portugal, we usually have **two given names**, followed by **our mother’s and father’s surnames**. But it really depends some people have **five names** (like my mother, for example), while my father only has **three**. I even know a few people who have **six names** in total!
Sort of depends. At least in Italy you’ll often officially see Surname-First Name. Certainly, for instance, if a doctor calls you from a waiting room or you’re giving your name for a hotel reservation, you’ll most likely hear that.
In Greece, we don’t have our father’s name. My name is just first name plus surname, and the only time i have to insert ny dad’s name is in official documents when they specifically ask for it.
Blue region is always Fathers surname right? Why its not specified?
For the Spain one, if your surname is your parents surname, how does that work over generations?
Like, if your grandfathers surname is Hernandez and your grandmother is Rodriguez, then their kid, your dad would be Hernandez Rodriguez. And add your mother Garcia Antonio, then you would be Hernandez Rodriguez Garcia Antonio.
And then you have a kid with Gonzales Rafael, then your kid would have to be Hernandez Rodriguez Garcia Antonio Gonzales Rafael. Etc etc
It seems untenable in the long run. Or am i misunderstanding?
In Spain, it is the parents‘ choice which surname comes first
Reunified Cyprus
in Poland we use both orders: first+last &last+first
Pater semper incertus est!
Hungary having the same naming convention with China and Japan rather than any European or Middle Eastern country in between is a historical oddity.
Nowadays in Spain people can change the order of surnames.
nope
in Ukraine it’s surname + first name + father’s name for official stuff like documents
and when you want to simply express respect to a person you would use first name + father’s name
but overall a lot of ukrainians want to get rid of father’s name and simply use the first name + surname
Red and orange is quite common in Norway as well, especially now when a lot of people get kids together without getting married.
I want to point out that in Romania it’s in transition from surname first to surname second, thus it’s still a mixture in use.
How is it done in Hungary? Do you introduce yourself with your last name and people address you with your last name, like in Japan?
Seems to be inaccurate for Romania. Officially, the order has always been Surname + Firstname and in some instances they also require the father’s first name
Iceland shifting concerningly close to Scotland, what are they planning
Iceland being the coolest European country yet again
In former Soviet Union countries it was Surname First Name then Fathers name – the information on this map is wrong.
Doesn’t most of these have more than one first name? We have names like
Kullagårdens Anna Josefin Pipialia Knutsson-Von Helsing
but usually just written „Josefin Knutsson-Von Helsing“ because the other ones are spare and not in use, only *tilltalsnamn* is used unless needed. And both parents surnames can be combined into a new one.
The *order* is still correct though.
Neither Iceland nor Russia/Belarus/Ukraine/Bulgaria etc are simply “father’s name”. It’s a patronymic – an adjective that denotes in Iceland often direct “-son/-daughter of” and in others “of…”
in norway, the law is very dumb as it’s customary to get both names of your parents. But we must relegate one to middle name status for no reason.
Wrong for Russia. Surname – first name – father’s name
France is surname first.
Now the question is, what is a surname?
As per the map, in Spain and Portugal, people don’t have surnames but use their mothers‘ and fathers‘ surnames (which they don’t have, as per the map). It might be better to say Name + Grandfather’s name (mom’s side) + Grandfather’s name (dad’s side), etc. I’m not sure if it is the case for those countries (and I understood correctly) but map is so confusing not gonna lie.
And for Slavic (For Bulgaria at least) countries on the map, afaik, there’s no surname. It is Name + Father’s name + Grandfather’s name. When they go international, mostly the grandfather’s name is treated as the surname. And some countries (Russia) even doesn’t include the Father’s name in the international documents.
In southern Germany (especially Swabia), second name first is also very common.