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    Wie viele Menschen sterben nach Alter immer noch an Lungenkrebs, nachdem sie mit dem Rauchen aufgehört haben? [OC]

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    1. AIONisMINE on

      Dam. I knew there was a difference. But never would have expected it to be this big

    2. MultiMarcus on

      That’s truly a fascinating number. I’ve never smoked and I certainly don’t plan to start doing it, but this is really telling. Like I knew that smoking caused lung cancer, but it’s like not just a slight link, it’s truly damning of how smoking has been tolerated for far too long.

    3. ale_93113 on

      So, even if you quit very early, your body still remembers and your lifespan is irreversibly shortened and your quality of life worsened…

      It makes sense but there are a lot of ex-smokers who think that just because they havent smoked in decades they are just as healthy as anyone else

    4. daysleeperrr on

      As a recent quitter, I found it useful to visualize this, as its something that is hard to grasp somehow. Do note some metrics differ per source, so I had to take the middle of the range sometimes. Its a rough estimate, which differs by geographic region, gender and smoking frequency among other factors.

      Sources used (through ChatGPT):

      https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2409903/

      https://www.researchgate.net/publication/8417597_The_cumulative_risk_of_lung_cancer_among_current_ex-_and_never-smokers_in_European_men

      https://www.cancerresearchuk.org/about-cancer/lung-cancer/survival#:~:text=Your%20outlook%20depends%20on%20the,More%20statistics

      Tool I used for the charting: https://www.draxlr.com/tools/bar-chart-generator/

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    6. RAAFStupot on

      So if I never quit smoking, I’ve got an 86% chance of not dying from lung cancer?

      Awesome!

    7. smileedude on

      4 in 5 lifetime smokers never getting lung cancer seems way higher than I would have thought.

    8. Automationallthetime on

      Would be nice to show never smoked lung cancer rates next to these.

      Edit: I’m an idiot

    9. black_butter on

      If you die at 33 from lung cancer and you are a smoker. Are you in the quit before 30 or never quit smoking?

    10. TA44728 on

      Is every group on the left hand side composed of 1000 people each?

      Would be interesting to see smoke frequency before quitting as well, to see the difference between 1 pack smokers vs 2 pack smokers for example

    11. MrdrVctm on

      The most fascinating aspect of this imo is the fact that even though the chances of getting lung cancer increase. The mortality rate still is the same throughout all of them, around 75%.

    13. WolfsmaulVibes on

      yeah i’m a passive smoker by heart, mom smoke during pregnancy, both parents, my older sister AND my grandma being smokers while growing up. i genuinely fear sometimes that i will end up developing lung cancer later in life.

      oh and my twin sister vapes too now, so i’ve got the chemical cocktail inside of me as well.

    14. Jack_Chatton on

      I am not sure this is right. The normal line is that if you give up by 30ish you are basically in the same position as a non smoker. This is complex! There are lots of reasons why the above stats, which are demotivating, might not be shared.

    15. trophyisabyproduct on

      With all the clear evidence and scientific consensus, the lobbying from tobacco firms to politicians and pushing their narratives through news are just absurdly effective that we wait for tens of years to communicate the message of smoking being bad clearly to public.

      And looks like we never learn from this mistake too. Now, on different issues, it’s still lobbying and lobbying (i.e., bribes) and pushing misinformation through social media that leaves all of the human population at risk….

    17. rifleshooter on

      Great data to see; the „out of a thousand“ was momentarily confusing. A better title would fix that.

    19. Zanian19 on

      I quit at 30. I probably started a lot earlier than the average smoker.

      What age does this stat use?

    20. FnEddieDingle on

      Im 56, and have smoked a pack a day for 40 years. Just had a CT lung scan and they are totally clear

    21. upachimneydown on

      Never smoked cigarettes (apart from second hand), tho I smoked a fair amount of pot in my 20s–now 74.

      Had my upper right lung lobe (plus bit more) removed 6 yrs ago–a tumor showed on xray and CT, turned out to be stage IA, and non-aggressive (it’d been there a while). Adjacent lymph nodes tested negative. I’m fine now. (fingers crossed)

    22. batch_plan on

      You’re trying to tell me I have more chance of surviving lung cancer the longer I smoke

    23. ThainEshKelch on

      What interesting observations I make from this:

      • 100x larger chance to get lung cancer if you smoke, compared to never smoking. That’s a WAY bigger difference than I had anticipated.

      • Even if you quit early, you still have a 5x larger chance of catching lung cancer, if you never smoked. That’s huge!

      • No matter how much you’ve smoked (or not), there’s still 75% chance of you dying from it, if you catch it.

      • The earlier you stop, the better the chance you have of not catching lung cancer – Otherwise the chance grows exponentially. Stop smoking people!

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