There are no ways of cycling to it. If you were to drive to it, there’s nowhere to park a car. If it is designed for children on bikes, you’ve nowhere to park to take the kids bikes out of the car. *We have received communication from TII to say it’s about trying to gauge and to alter driver behaviour when they interact with a cycle lane like this*
Christonabike.
Data111222 on
„One car had €50,000 worth of damage to it.“
If someone hits a kerb so hard they do 50k worth of damage then they need to be disqualified from driving.
freshfrosted on
„The design of the project has taken away the hard shoulder. We’ve had cars and lorries hitting kerbs. One car had €50,000 worth of damage to it“
The road is still the same, no narrower than before. The 50k damage is purely on the driver if thats to be believed. 50k is a write off of a fairly nice new car.
I found the public consultation, but the link to the drawings seems to be broken
Willingness_Mammoth on

evergoodstrife on
This is a road space reallocation project that would make the National Cycle Network more cost effective as it is cheaper to build on regional roads with low traffic than build an entirely new greenway.
While this wouldn’t be on the National Cycle Network it is just a pilot scheme.
The failure of the Moone to Timolin Roadspace Reallocation Pilot shows unfortunately national bodies cannot trial new infrastructure without extensive liaison with local communities.
GistofGit on
Normally when I see this sort of article it’s clearly a group of NIMBYs but in this case their reasoning seems sound. Unnecessary expense
gmankev on
This appears to be built on road which itself was built as a bypass of two villages. That bypass road was then replaced by M9 motorway…………………Surely the old original road would have been a good one for the cycle lane..
ALso do we really need the lane and pedestrian path on both sides… Surely one side is enough.. Road engineers have hoisted themselves to such high standards that its either existing dangers or full PPP – 100Million airport apron wide construction.. ..
On the good side, its a pilot, engineersf will use it as trial and feedback for further designs..
Fickle_Definition351 on
I agree with „local cyclist“ Emily-Anne here. Can’t stand bike infrastructure that diverts you into junctions, when you would just go straight on if you stuck to the road.
Main road traffic should always have priority over side roads, whether it’s bikes or cars
jonnieggg on
The increases in property tax will pay for it, chill
Immortal_Tuttle on
It’s not pointless. Someone received pretty significant amount of money, so it’s definitely not pointless for that person.
/s
On a serious note. Why Ireland is not taking any lessons from other countries experiences? A few EU countries tried adding those road structures to slow down the traffic, make intersections safer etc. The result? Road is safest if there are no distractions. Looking at this one I have to mention one place in particular. In Poland they were making a new, highly anticipated connection between two cities. Roughly 50km of a new road. They laid down the road surface, but as there was still no contractor chosen for adding security features, they opened it as it was. The road was wide enough for 4 cars going abreast with room to spare. No road markings. You were entering it, setting your cruise control to 100km/h and basically had a smooth ride. Some time later they added security features. Every junction was accompanied with 70km/h speed limit, flashing warning lights and traffic calming structures with high kerbs and narrow passages. Amount of accidents rose. Road was defined as single carriage way, which was enforced with additional safety structures and cornucopia of road signage…
carlitobrigantehf on
Most of the complaints in this article aren’t about cycle lanes at all, theyre about driver behaviour and how bad it is. And such is the car centric nature of our society that they don’t even realise it.
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There are no ways of cycling to it. If you were to drive to it, there’s nowhere to park a car. If it is designed for children on bikes, you’ve nowhere to park to take the kids bikes out of the car. *We have received communication from TII to say it’s about trying to gauge and to alter driver behaviour when they interact with a cycle lane like this*
Christonabike.
„One car had €50,000 worth of damage to it.“
If someone hits a kerb so hard they do 50k worth of damage then they need to be disqualified from driving.
„The design of the project has taken away the hard shoulder. We’ve had cars and lorries hitting kerbs. One car had €50,000 worth of damage to it“
The road is still the same, no narrower than before. The 50k damage is purely on the driver if thats to be believed. 50k is a write off of a fairly nice new car.
https://consult.kildarecoco.ie/en/consultation/national-cycle-network-ncn-road-space-re-allocation-pilot-r448-moone-timolin
I found the public consultation, but the link to the drawings seems to be broken

This is a road space reallocation project that would make the National Cycle Network more cost effective as it is cheaper to build on regional roads with low traffic than build an entirely new greenway.
While this wouldn’t be on the National Cycle Network it is just a pilot scheme.
The failure of the Moone to Timolin Roadspace Reallocation Pilot shows unfortunately national bodies cannot trial new infrastructure without extensive liaison with local communities.
Normally when I see this sort of article it’s clearly a group of NIMBYs but in this case their reasoning seems sound. Unnecessary expense
This appears to be built on road which itself was built as a bypass of two villages. That bypass road was then replaced by M9 motorway…………………Surely the old original road would have been a good one for the cycle lane..
ALso do we really need the lane and pedestrian path on both sides… Surely one side is enough.. Road engineers have hoisted themselves to such high standards that its either existing dangers or full PPP – 100Million airport apron wide construction.. ..
On the good side, its a pilot, engineersf will use it as trial and feedback for further designs..
I agree with „local cyclist“ Emily-Anne here. Can’t stand bike infrastructure that diverts you into junctions, when you would just go straight on if you stuck to the road.
Main road traffic should always have priority over side roads, whether it’s bikes or cars
The increases in property tax will pay for it, chill
It’s not pointless. Someone received pretty significant amount of money, so it’s definitely not pointless for that person.
/s
On a serious note. Why Ireland is not taking any lessons from other countries experiences? A few EU countries tried adding those road structures to slow down the traffic, make intersections safer etc. The result? Road is safest if there are no distractions. Looking at this one I have to mention one place in particular. In Poland they were making a new, highly anticipated connection between two cities. Roughly 50km of a new road. They laid down the road surface, but as there was still no contractor chosen for adding security features, they opened it as it was. The road was wide enough for 4 cars going abreast with room to spare. No road markings. You were entering it, setting your cruise control to 100km/h and basically had a smooth ride. Some time later they added security features. Every junction was accompanied with 70km/h speed limit, flashing warning lights and traffic calming structures with high kerbs and narrow passages. Amount of accidents rose. Road was defined as single carriage way, which was enforced with additional safety structures and cornucopia of road signage…
Most of the complaints in this article aren’t about cycle lanes at all, theyre about driver behaviour and how bad it is. And such is the car centric nature of our society that they don’t even realise it.