NATO does the same to Russia and expects Russia to sit down quietly, hypocrisy
vladgrinch on
>On October 22, 1962, U.S. President John F. Kennedy addressed the nation, revealing that Soviet nuclear missiles had been deployed in Cuba, just 150 km from American shores. The Cuban Missile Crisis had begun, the closest the world ever came to full-scale nuclear war.
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>For 13 tense days, Washington and Moscow stood on the brink of catastrophe. The U.S. imposed a naval blockade around Cuba, while Soviet ships carrying more missiles sailed toward the island. A secret negotiation finally defused the crisis: the USSR withdrew its missiles from Cuba in exchange for a U.S. pledge not to invade the island and a quiet withdrawal of American missiles from Turkey.
ALeftistNotLiberal on
Show the US missiles in turkey & germany
LukeLecker on
6 aircraft carriers off the coast is insane
catnasheed on
New Orléan singular
Maxmutinium on
Needs another watermark then I’d upvote
maliki2004 on
Bad news for the east side of Houston
thissexypoptart on
“New Orlean”
Whyumad_brah on
The Cuban missile crisis shows perfectly the concept of indivisibility of security that the West often fails to grasp when the tables are turned. You can’t ensure your own security by endangering others, regardless of your intentions.
Kind_Resort_9535 on
Wasn’t it actually a naval “quarantine” as a blockade would have been an act of war.
GhostOfGrimnir on
The ranges here seem a lot lower than other maps I’ve seen
My grandad (Marines) was on one of the ships waiting for the invasion go-ahead. He was deployed out of Camp Lejeune while my grandmother was 7 months pregnant and they wouldn’t even tell her what part of the world he was in. To make it worse she also found out her brother (Navy) was deployed from somewhere in Texas.
What was funny, though, was that because of how full the ships were they were told that even the officers were going to be sharing cabins. My great-uncle was told that he was going to have to share with some hardass Marine Lieutenant. And then in walks his brother-in-law.
They were basically just out there floating for a few days and then the ships just turned back to port without them knowing what had happened.
FistyFistWithFingers on
Reddit, you’ll upvote me for saying America bad too, right?
aetius5 on
Continuing to call it „Cuban crisis“ despite it being a missile crisis (USA had missiles in Turkey, USSR responded with Cuba, it ended up with a common withdrawal) is as stupid as any long debunked propaganda. Would you say the USSR „saved“ Czechia in 1968? Of course not.
Fraktal55 on
So do IRBMs have a longer ranger than MRBMs? It says they were both deployed in Cuba but only the range of IRBMs is shown.
NapalmGeiger on
Where’s Turkey
Signal_Quarter_74 on
Lots of misconceptions about why the missiles were a major threat and the Jupiter missiles in Turkey and Italy.
Khrushchev promised Kennedy that NO offense weapons were to be placed in Cuba. So when US Intelligence finds dozens of missiles and warheads in the process of installation, a logical interpretation was these were for a sneak attack. One likely to be imminent. It’s one thing to secretly install a missile, it’s another to completely lie through your teeth about them.
Joint Chiefs pushed JFK to strike Cuba asap with all conventional means available to eliminate them before installation would be complete and overthrow the Castro regime. Regardless of response from Moscow. Which as there were 100 tactical nukes in the hands of local Cuban and Soviet commanders, would have led to tens of thousands of Americans troops turned to ash. US would have responded by glassing Cuba. At the same time, Soviets would have invaded Berlin. There would have been no stopping the complete annihilation of civilization, if not all of humankind. Don’t believe me, incidents on submarine B-59, a U-2 getting lost and straying into Russia so fighters were sent to find it armed with nuclear air-to-air missiles which was up to individual pilot whether to use, and a false alarm to launch sent to American missile operators in Japan to attack, show all were on edge and a lot of low level folks had the means to let the fireworks start.
Thank heavens RFK advised JFK to not take the quick path. And to come up with the Jupiter missile trade to let the Soviet hardliners think they still won. When in reality, the Jupiters were already obsolete with the Minuteman and Titan II missiles ICBMs based in the US coming online. So giving them up changed absolutely nothing for the US.
The lesson is not “Soviets conniving and evil, US pure and good” or “Capitalists deserved a taste of their own medicine”. It’s that there is no room for misunderstanding when it comes to nuclear weapons. Being rash is foolish with nukes. And all it takes is one over zealous guy to end it all, so safeguards are needed.
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NATO does the same to Russia and expects Russia to sit down quietly, hypocrisy
>On October 22, 1962, U.S. President John F. Kennedy addressed the nation, revealing that Soviet nuclear missiles had been deployed in Cuba, just 150 km from American shores. The Cuban Missile Crisis had begun, the closest the world ever came to full-scale nuclear war.
>
>For 13 tense days, Washington and Moscow stood on the brink of catastrophe. The U.S. imposed a naval blockade around Cuba, while Soviet ships carrying more missiles sailed toward the island. A secret negotiation finally defused the crisis: the USSR withdrew its missiles from Cuba in exchange for a U.S. pledge not to invade the island and a quiet withdrawal of American missiles from Turkey.
Show the US missiles in turkey & germany
6 aircraft carriers off the coast is insane
New Orléan singular
Needs another watermark then I’d upvote
Bad news for the east side of Houston
“New Orlean”
The Cuban missile crisis shows perfectly the concept of indivisibility of security that the West often fails to grasp when the tables are turned. You can’t ensure your own security by endangering others, regardless of your intentions.
Wasn’t it actually a naval “quarantine” as a blockade would have been an act of war.
The ranges here seem a lot lower than other maps I’ve seen
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/01/The_relative_ranges_of_the_IL-28%2C_SS-4%2C_and_SS-5%2C_stationed_on_Cuba.png/600px-The_relative_ranges_of_the_IL-28%2C_SS-4%2C_and_SS-5%2C_stationed_on_Cuba.png
My grandad (Marines) was on one of the ships waiting for the invasion go-ahead. He was deployed out of Camp Lejeune while my grandmother was 7 months pregnant and they wouldn’t even tell her what part of the world he was in. To make it worse she also found out her brother (Navy) was deployed from somewhere in Texas.
What was funny, though, was that because of how full the ships were they were told that even the officers were going to be sharing cabins. My great-uncle was told that he was going to have to share with some hardass Marine Lieutenant. And then in walks his brother-in-law.
They were basically just out there floating for a few days and then the ships just turned back to port without them knowing what had happened.
Reddit, you’ll upvote me for saying America bad too, right?
Continuing to call it „Cuban crisis“ despite it being a missile crisis (USA had missiles in Turkey, USSR responded with Cuba, it ended up with a common withdrawal) is as stupid as any long debunked propaganda. Would you say the USSR „saved“ Czechia in 1968? Of course not.
So do IRBMs have a longer ranger than MRBMs? It says they were both deployed in Cuba but only the range of IRBMs is shown.
Where’s Turkey
Lots of misconceptions about why the missiles were a major threat and the Jupiter missiles in Turkey and Italy.
Khrushchev promised Kennedy that NO offense weapons were to be placed in Cuba. So when US Intelligence finds dozens of missiles and warheads in the process of installation, a logical interpretation was these were for a sneak attack. One likely to be imminent. It’s one thing to secretly install a missile, it’s another to completely lie through your teeth about them.
Joint Chiefs pushed JFK to strike Cuba asap with all conventional means available to eliminate them before installation would be complete and overthrow the Castro regime. Regardless of response from Moscow. Which as there were 100 tactical nukes in the hands of local Cuban and Soviet commanders, would have led to tens of thousands of Americans troops turned to ash. US would have responded by glassing Cuba. At the same time, Soviets would have invaded Berlin. There would have been no stopping the complete annihilation of civilization, if not all of humankind. Don’t believe me, incidents on submarine B-59, a U-2 getting lost and straying into Russia so fighters were sent to find it armed with nuclear air-to-air missiles which was up to individual pilot whether to use, and a false alarm to launch sent to American missile operators in Japan to attack, show all were on edge and a lot of low level folks had the means to let the fireworks start.
Thank heavens RFK advised JFK to not take the quick path. And to come up with the Jupiter missile trade to let the Soviet hardliners think they still won. When in reality, the Jupiters were already obsolete with the Minuteman and Titan II missiles ICBMs based in the US coming online. So giving them up changed absolutely nothing for the US.
The lesson is not “Soviets conniving and evil, US pure and good” or “Capitalists deserved a taste of their own medicine”. It’s that there is no room for misunderstanding when it comes to nuclear weapons. Being rash is foolish with nukes. And all it takes is one over zealous guy to end it all, so safeguards are needed.