Biden sagt, er werde aufhören, Bomben und Artilleriegranaten nach Israel zu schicken, wenn Israel eine größere Invasion in Rafah startet

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/05/08/politics/joe-biden-interview-cnntv/index.html

30 Comments

  1. “…they go after population centers”.

    Hmm they go after Hamas, who hide behind civilians in population centers.

  2. butwhyisitso on

    if you listen carefully you can hear goalposts shift across america

  3. origami_anarchist on

    In practical terms I think all this really means is that Israel will have to finish destroying Hamas with what they have already on hand, can make themselves, and/or can get from non-US sources. I suspect Israel is just fine with that right now.

  4. Greatpottery on

    I’ll be honest, the more this Rafah song and dance goes on. The more it seems that Biden is under a lot of pressure to stop Israel from going into Rafah.

    And the main reason is that it probably has to legitimately be the last stand for hamas and the supporters of Palestine do not want hamas to be destroyed. Because, honestly Its a little late for Biden to care about civilians.

  5. flossdaily on

    This is a really stupid move by Biden.

    He’s not going to win back the anti-Jewish vote, and now he’s alienating the people who are pro-Israel.

  6. _Steve_Zissou_ on

    Because why would we want to actually destroy Hamas, right guys?

    (sarcasm)

    But for real, if he thinks that this is somehow going to appease the “pro-Hamas activist” vote – he’s wrong. That crowd is so unhinged that that will vote for Trump (who’s WAYYYY more pro-Israel than Biden is), just to stick it to him.

  7. Do they really need so much military aid? Israel is a pretty militarized country, I don’t imagine they lack the capacity to produce weaponry.

  8. anotherone121 on

    Fucking lame. Hamas did what they did and they’ve explicitly promised – if given a chance – they’ll do it again. They need to be eradicated. The world will be much better for it.

  9. So what happens when Israel is attacked again and again? Do we let them die to a bunch of terrorists funded by Iran which is funded by Russia which is backed by China?

  10. HolyFuckRedditSux on

    Protip for those Pro Palestine people:

    Just because Biby is an unhinged right wing asshole doesn’t mean Palestinians or Hamas are left wing. Make no mistake,  they would kill you and your family on the spot if given a chance. You don’t have to resort to defending terrorists.

  11. Onefoldbrain on

    If terrorists had attacked, raped, kidnapped and killed americans on US soil, the americans would do just as Israel has done or worse. It’s a bit hypocritical to claim otherwise or demand a different action. In fact, most countries in the world would retaliate like Israel did.

    As long as you support Palestine with one hand and Israel with the other, then nothing will ever change. A two-state solution is not viable with terrorists or people that support terrorists. Pick a side and let them end it.

  12. Bast-beast on

    Can anybody tell me, what is wrong in finishing hamas in Rafah? Civilians are evacuating now. Israel took rafah crossing already, nobody is hurt.

    Biden is helping hamas by showing that America don’t support Israel

  13. tonkatsu2008 on

    So a minor incursion is ok? A quick in and out operation where the IDF goes into Rafah kills the terrorists and frees the hostages.

  14. Mr_Winemaker on

    Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t military aid largely a Congress thing? I’m imagine the President can veto aid packages he doesn’t like, but then I’d guess the republicans would start rejecting Ukraine aid packages en masse in protest until Israel gets weapons again

  15. ThoughtFood on

    Well,Hamas is never going to accept a hostage deal after this public statement by Biden. The hostages, including American citizens, aren’t getting out if Biden sticks with this position.

    It wouldn’t surprise me if Hamas shows the clip of Biden saying this to the hostages to psychologically torture them even more.

  16. jdsbluedevl on

    So he wants to force a stalemate. It’s a good thing his opponent is Trump, because otherwise I would have serious questions about voting for him. I hate that my vote is taken for granted. He is so willing to kowtow to Dearborn that he is willing to lose the rest of Michigan in the process.

  17. Conscious-Ticket-259 on

    My dumb ass thought it said Russia and I thought I must have missed something huge

  18. ismashugood on

    should be sending that shit to Ukraine anyways. Why the fuck are we giving more bombs and shells to one of the most well equipped countries in the middle east that’s ostensibly fighting a city? Fuck em

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