Miliband sagt: „Wir dürfen niemals Sperrzonen für Juden und Israelis im Vereinigten Königreich inmitten des Aston-Villa-Streits haben.“
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/miliband-aston-villa-jews-israel-b2848018.html
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This is the same fanbase who started fights in Amsterdam and chanted „death to Arabs“.
I’m sure, considering the demographics of **Birmingham**, that absolutely nothing will go wrong by inviting those fans to the match against Aston Villa.
What about fans who who attack Jewish and Israeli fans, because he might want to look what Macabai Tel Aviv were up to last night…
The minister of culture sport etc Lisa Nandy has been asked to make a statement about the Villa game this afternoon.
Edit, it’s at 4.15. I bet it’s a load of waffle.
Host it in a neutral venue or ban all fans from attending.
A ruling that only appeases one side was never going to go down well. You need to solution that both sides are either happy or unhappy with.
It genuinely feels like a fucking psychosis has swept through Parliament. Even *after* Maccabi Tel Aviv’s *own derby* was cancelled due to fan violence, our political class as still full-throatedly endorsing their ultras to come here!
You really do get the vibe that our politicians feel the need to *compensate* for supporting Palestinian statement, so have now gone back to just uncritically and enthusiastically defending every right-wing Israeli again.
Infamously aggressive and sometimes violent fanbases exist all over football and are dealt with home and away all the time with no talk of banning them for the sake of public safety. ‚Bubble‘ games are a thing and there is probably no police force in the world more adept at dealing with hooliganism than the British police, and there are many teams in Europe with a history of hooliganism worse than Maccabi Tel Aviv.
The fact is they’ve been blocked from attending for their own safety from certain communities in Aston, and in line with recent Home Office strategy of doing whatever it takes to manage ‚tensions‘ in these areas, at the expense of free association and domestic cultural traditions such as football if required.
No-go zones for hooliganism regardless of religion or nationality sounds pretty good though
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We should not, definitely.
But that isn’t the same as saying fans of a particular football team, who caused a bunch of trouble in Amsterdam recently and a riot on Tel Aviv the other day, should be welcome to attend a game.
Not that difficult to see the difference between the two things.
In fairness, I think Miliband was responding to a question so it was an interviewer who framed is as being about „no go zones for Jews“, but he probably should have known better than to play along with that sort of framing.
We already have no-go zones for football hooligans though, they’re called ‘Football banning orders’.
Kier will be realising a statement that Israeli football fans will have rights to defend themselves and may use whatever means necessary.
There are already no-go zones in football. I think the Police would make me turn away if I wore a Birmingham City shirt around Villa Park on matchday.
Labour’s mask of being the face of the working class is really slipping. Do they understand football at all?
I agree.
I also think that if the police ban hooligans from a football match the government should shut the fuck up and let the police do their job.
Okay, but how about no-go zones for football hooligans?
Maccabi fans are known to be violent and racist. All England fans were banned for 5 years, other violent fans are commonly banned. There is nothing unusual or wrong about banning these dickheads.
The political plonkers trying to make this about anti-Semitiism are looking stupid or paid for.
This isn’t about a no go zone for Jews.
It’s about a ban on a group of supporters of a football club who are historically violent and assault other fans – and just had their own derby cancelled because of this
The ethnicity or religion is irrelevant here and not the issue. Why aren’t the press flat out pointing this out and asking about it?
There shouldn’t be no go zones for anyone, unless the person/group are proven issues. Like how shoplifters get banned from shops
What happens when your policians are bought and paid for by israel
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Did Maccabi and Hapoel fans cause a match to be abandoned on the weekend because of a mass brawl?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cgr4n07509wo
Oh yes. It did.
This isn’t creating a no-go zone, or blocking Israelis or Jews. This is a concern about hooliganism and fan violence.
But they weren’t turned away for being Jewish. They were turned away for being trouble makers and thugs.
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We absolutely should have no go zones for football hooligans
Ed – you and the whole Government have made a right royal cock up in the hopes of bending over to donors.
The hooligans are not being banned based on their nationality. They are banned because they are hooligans. Jeezo, why are people so up in arms at this?! The hooligans from Legia Warsaw had their away fans banned for **five matches** because of hooligan activity. Was Sir Kid Starver up in arms about that?!
And last night the Tel Aviv derby between Hapoel and Maccabi was cancelled by the **Israeli Tel Aviv Police** because of, you guessed it, hooligans. So, pray tell me, was the Tel Aviv match cancelled by the Israeli Police because of the fans nationality, or because the fans were hooligans?!
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Where were these politicians when celtic/rangers banned away fans from the old firm? I guess no-go zones for Catholics and Protestants are perfectly fine.
Very weird that they randomly step in for some foreign hooligans.
I mean he’s right in the words he says there, but Villa is absolutely not a no go zone for Jews, and this attempt to conflate Jews with football hooligans is deeply dishonest and distasteful. Villa has Jewish fans, they have no problem inviting Tottenham to visit, and I’m sure many other Prem teams have Jewish fans who visit Villa with no problem.
Maccabi fans are banned because they’re racist, aggressive, violent hooligans with a track record of picking fights with the locals. Even when they are the locals, apparently.
The way they choose to pick that fight is by winding up local Muslims and then playing the victim when they get the result they’re after. That is likely to be extremely successful in Birmingham and so it’s even more the right call to ban them from coming.
Reading the article It’s like he deliberately misread the situation and problem
The issue wasn’t risk of people attacking the maccabi fans though that might be a risk
The issue was the violence and chants the maccabi fans would do deliberately as they have done elsewhere to Garner an overreaction.
Football hooliganism is a big deal
The only thing the left and right can always agree on, preferential treatment for jews.