Wicklower Wanderer mussten Kosten in Höhe von 38.000 Euro zahlen, nachdem sie das Wegerecht-Einspruchsverfahren verloren hatten, um beim Schuldenabbau zu helfen
https://www.independent.ie/regionals/wicklow/bray-news/wicklow-walkers-hit-with-costs-of-38000-after-losing-right-of-way-appeal-launch-book-to-help-cut-debts/a997676986.html
Von PoppedCork
13 Kommentare
Looks like they seriously misjudged their chances and now it’s backfired hard. €38k in legal costs is a brutal outcome shows how risky it is to take these kinds of cases to court without rock-solid ground.
I’m not going to buy a guidebook by two lads who clearly don’t know where I can actually walk.
No offence but I’m not buying a book from two aul lads who dont know where you can and cant walk, im sure they can afford to pay for their own blunders
yeah, it’s surprising how little people realise how bad Ireland’s public access situation is. Ireland has some of the worst right of ways in the World. Throw on top utterly crazy „pathways“ on public roads with dangerous drivers down the country and it’s a shitshow. Im currently in Killaloe, and the Clare way is a joke. The postman nearly killed me on a blind bend, one that is designated as a „way“. You’re taking your life in your hands on some of those roads.
I applaud the landowners of places like the Pollagh trail who open up their land not people who help prosecute two walkers. Nobody should support an over zealous regulation of land that has very dubious and complicated history i.e colonial confiscation, debt purchases, over intensive farming, the land act entrenching land hoarding etc etc. The suing of farmers, landowners is wrong as well. Nobody should support an entitlement to claim culture.
We need to encourage more responsible right of way, not less. We really should have an equivalent of right to roam. And that should not include dogs, or allowing people sue farmers.
Of course claim culture is one of the driving factors of this. And until thats sorted, its probably never going to get to a Scottish equivalent.
This was a case involving a local walking/rambling group and trying to keep open what they believed to be a right of way. They lost, which in a way is unfortunate for us all, and I don’t begrudge them asking for help with the bill. This is different to groups of thugs trespassing on fields and scoping out farmers sheds.
There needs to be better management of rights of way and walking trails in this country.
There are many walkways and trails in this country that are hundreds of years old and precede many of current boundaries and ownership titles.
Many of these walks are well managed, there’s fencing, gates and signposts, the „Beara way“ and „Goats Path“ are 2 that I’m familiar with.
On the other hand there have been instances of trespass and damage and there was even a case a number of years ago where a landowner was assaulted.
To be fair most landowners are reasonable and are amenable to walkers once they don’t cause damage, so maybe instead of writing a book the people in the o.p should consider how how they can manage walkways without antagonizing land owners.
We have many walkways and cycleways that crisscross private land so it can be done.
I’m big into camping and hiking but I’d still kinda agree with the farmer having seen what happens when people get too comfy on private land aside from liability and dogs. Up by Lough Dan there is a farmer who allowed access to the lough through his fields. People began to camp there and it gradually spiralled out of control, there was one day we were just there for a stroll but the place genuinely looked like a music festival there were fires burning in the middle of the day about 20/30 tents and scorch marks all over the fields, and these were actually working sheep fields. The fields were eventually closed to everyone even walkers and I definitely empathised with the farmer as I cant really imagine I’d have so much patience with randomers coming into my back garden and starting fires there.
Bit of a joke to begin with that we don’t have the right to roam similar to the UK and Scotland.
If only there was a way to blame the cyclists on this one.
I’m delighted, who do these lefty middle class types think they are, that they can just stroll about someone else’s property and do pretty much as they please. Don’t forget, it’s the land owner that’s liable if one of these halfwits hurt themselves or do any damage…
A major issue is we have so little public land or wilderness in this country.
In ireland the countryside is for farming, not for meandering across fields and hillsides. That’s a huge difference between us and our neighbours across Europe.
What a fecking headline
Pur country is almost uniquely bad for lack of access, every scrap of it fenced off. It’s a real shame we’ve no wilderness, even the bloody parks are farmed.