The problem with this big announcements is that nobody believes it will actually happen. Government after government make these big announcements with mind-boggling numbers of jobs to be created and then in reality no jobs get created and the whole thing is quietly swept under the rug just in time for the next big announcement of some new thing that will create huge numbers of jobs.
What government needs to do is say ‚Here’s Dave, he’s the 400,000 person that has been hired into this new thing‘.
No one believes a single thing any government says any more.
Martinonfire on
Where is the money coming from to pay 400 000 peoples wages, as a guess its either more tax or more expensive power.
Temporary-Guidance20 on
I work in the energy sector. A good start would be to offer entry-level positions to British graduates. It’s mind-boggling to me that, with a major university just next door, my company sponsors visas for graduates from both the EU and non-EU countries – for perfectly good entry-level roles where you’re expected to learn on the job. I don’t know why it’s like that. I’m too smart to ask those kinds of questions.
PrincePupBoi on
Government plans to lose 2million jobs through unfettered, plagiarising AI.
Few-Role-4568 on
Everyone I know who is uk based and working in oil and gas will simply move to a job abroad when they eventually stop working in the North Sea/Aberdeen.
I’ve never understood why the government thinks highly skilled, in demand workers will transition to a “green” job that will inevitably pay less than what they currently earn.
Jurassic_Bun on
Feel like this will go the same way as 4 million homes fitted with solar panels by 2020 from the Tories. A lot of lofty ideals with non of the commitment or know how to do it.
The country is in adeath spiral. It’s ideologically opposed to itself with almost zero cross party agreement along with an anti development mentality couple with it’s better to save a penny now and lose a pound later. If the government wants to stimulate the country then big changes are needed not some lofty impossible to fulfill ideas.
Energy is clearly a big one, it affects citizens and private businesses alike. Solar, Wind and Nuclear seem like easy choices. Nuclear is something we are incapable currently of building quickly. However new builds and government building should have sola installed. Also new energy production should be government owned. Solar panels and wind energy operating within a local councils area should see any savings or money made returned to that council. Perhaps if it was done this was councils would be more favorable to seeing it build and installed.
Another one is consumer habits. The government needs to go big on online shopping. Higher taxes that are then shifted into supporting indigenous businesses that are locally grown. The government and locals councils need to come down on getting rents lower and offering support to local businesses. My local council spent £50 million on a market renovation that no one really wanted, while nearly all the high street remains empty. They could have used that money to buy the buildings on the high street, fix them up and then be in charge of the rents.
Instead they renovated the market so we could get a Taco Bell. Not sure if anyone has noticed the explosion of American fast food in recent years? My small city previously only has McDonald’s and KFC and then everything was a local business, now we have Popeyes, Wingstop, Taco Bell, Burger King, Krispy Kreme. Feels like we are losing more than ever.
Operating hours need changing. Businesses should be open until 8-9pm and Sunday hours need to go away. Country needs to end its obsession with focusing all its support on bars, clubs and takeaways. Especially as younger people habits have been changing. Government is so far behind we are still following laws (Sunday hours) born out of practices from 1000 years ago.
Unfortunately the country at the national and local level truthfully doesn’t give a single shit about British people or British businesses. They are stuck in their little circles of popularity. They are so out of touch and apart from the nation itself that they don’t even exist within the same dimension. They live within a bubble of politics and the elites that then exist within another bubble of the wealthy areas of London that then exist within another bubble that is London that is then within another bubble that is the south east.
They are not worried about energy prices, the death of the high street, the erosion of community, escalating energy prices, the NHS, ambulance service, education or anything. They exist within such a place as they have access to the best dentists, hospitals, shopping, schools etc and getting that only depends on their popularity within their circle so they can get the best support and positions, as well as the connections to people who will win them the election such as influencers, social media companies, news companies, bot farms, celebrities, lobbyists and transnational business owners.
thorny_business on
Won’t this just make energy more expensive? That’s 400k salaries that have to be paid through your energy bills.
wolfiasty on
And 100 000 when Heathrow expansion will be done.
And free milk for everyone when aliens will land.
Pinky promise.
hummusexual_lesbiab on
People are skeptical for very good reasons.
It’ll be another poorly run project until the laws that require these schemes to be managed by private firms under government contracts are ended and control is given to the state.
The HS2 debacle for instance , is because private firms compete with one another to get state contracts and will undercut each other with their cost projections and planning…. only for it in practice to inevitably get held up in years and years of pre-planning, renegotiations, private firm collapse and much much more, only for those costs to inflate rapidly because once work has started it is very easy for these companies to demand more money from the taxpayer to make these works go ahead. Then there are the complications of when these companies create their own sub-contracts to other private firms who sub-contract… and so on and so forth.
If the state attempts to end the contract they can be sued. The ‚efficiency‘ of private firms taking on such large projects become wasteful, only for the blame to be placed on public spending in general when the issue is ‚privatisation as efficiency‘ ideology has been deeply embedded into our approach to any public ventures, it’s in-house engineering and planning capacities whittled away by neoliberal policy.
Other countries manage to make good investment into the economy: France, Germany, China… Because they don’t operate under this insane approach!
France’s SNCF is a state-owned rail company with internal engineering expertise and long-term planning capacity.
Germany’s Deutsche Bahn, though technically corporatised, remains publicly owned and reinvests profits domestically.
China’s infrastructure model uses state-owned enterprises (SOEs) that operate on industrial policy goals rather than short-term shareholder returns.
In all these cases, the state retains institutional memory and technical capacity. They don’t have to start from zero or outsource expertise every time they want to invest in infrastructure.
We have a Climate Emergency. This is an existential war were costs and public debts are now irrelevant, it HAS to be done. Would you trust the military to be run this way?
BroodLord1962 on
Good luck with that, they can’t even find enough builders, plumbers and electricians for building new homes. And this target is by 2030, so it’s less than 100’000 jobs a year. You can’t create jobs if people don’t want to do those jobs. Stop making these pointless announcements. People are struggling with a cost of living crisis and want to see action now that is going to make things easier for them. What’s going on the GBE, has anyone seen their bills coming down yet? And why have they wasted tax payers money renationalising the trains when surely water companies should have been the first priority, everybody users water. Only around 14% of the population use trains on a weekly basis. This Government really has got a clue.
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The problem with this big announcements is that nobody believes it will actually happen. Government after government make these big announcements with mind-boggling numbers of jobs to be created and then in reality no jobs get created and the whole thing is quietly swept under the rug just in time for the next big announcement of some new thing that will create huge numbers of jobs.
What government needs to do is say ‚Here’s Dave, he’s the 400,000 person that has been hired into this new thing‘.
No one believes a single thing any government says any more.
Where is the money coming from to pay 400 000 peoples wages, as a guess its either more tax or more expensive power.
I work in the energy sector. A good start would be to offer entry-level positions to British graduates. It’s mind-boggling to me that, with a major university just next door, my company sponsors visas for graduates from both the EU and non-EU countries – for perfectly good entry-level roles where you’re expected to learn on the job. I don’t know why it’s like that. I’m too smart to ask those kinds of questions.
Government plans to lose 2million jobs through unfettered, plagiarising AI.
Everyone I know who is uk based and working in oil and gas will simply move to a job abroad when they eventually stop working in the North Sea/Aberdeen.
I’ve never understood why the government thinks highly skilled, in demand workers will transition to a “green” job that will inevitably pay less than what they currently earn.
Feel like this will go the same way as 4 million homes fitted with solar panels by 2020 from the Tories. A lot of lofty ideals with non of the commitment or know how to do it.
The country is in adeath spiral. It’s ideologically opposed to itself with almost zero cross party agreement along with an anti development mentality couple with it’s better to save a penny now and lose a pound later. If the government wants to stimulate the country then big changes are needed not some lofty impossible to fulfill ideas.
Energy is clearly a big one, it affects citizens and private businesses alike. Solar, Wind and Nuclear seem like easy choices. Nuclear is something we are incapable currently of building quickly. However new builds and government building should have sola installed. Also new energy production should be government owned. Solar panels and wind energy operating within a local councils area should see any savings or money made returned to that council. Perhaps if it was done this was councils would be more favorable to seeing it build and installed.
Another one is consumer habits. The government needs to go big on online shopping. Higher taxes that are then shifted into supporting indigenous businesses that are locally grown. The government and locals councils need to come down on getting rents lower and offering support to local businesses. My local council spent £50 million on a market renovation that no one really wanted, while nearly all the high street remains empty. They could have used that money to buy the buildings on the high street, fix them up and then be in charge of the rents.
Instead they renovated the market so we could get a Taco Bell. Not sure if anyone has noticed the explosion of American fast food in recent years? My small city previously only has McDonald’s and KFC and then everything was a local business, now we have Popeyes, Wingstop, Taco Bell, Burger King, Krispy Kreme. Feels like we are losing more than ever.
Operating hours need changing. Businesses should be open until 8-9pm and Sunday hours need to go away. Country needs to end its obsession with focusing all its support on bars, clubs and takeaways. Especially as younger people habits have been changing. Government is so far behind we are still following laws (Sunday hours) born out of practices from 1000 years ago.
Unfortunately the country at the national and local level truthfully doesn’t give a single shit about British people or British businesses. They are stuck in their little circles of popularity. They are so out of touch and apart from the nation itself that they don’t even exist within the same dimension. They live within a bubble of politics and the elites that then exist within another bubble of the wealthy areas of London that then exist within another bubble that is London that is then within another bubble that is the south east.
They are not worried about energy prices, the death of the high street, the erosion of community, escalating energy prices, the NHS, ambulance service, education or anything. They exist within such a place as they have access to the best dentists, hospitals, shopping, schools etc and getting that only depends on their popularity within their circle so they can get the best support and positions, as well as the connections to people who will win them the election such as influencers, social media companies, news companies, bot farms, celebrities, lobbyists and transnational business owners.
Won’t this just make energy more expensive? That’s 400k salaries that have to be paid through your energy bills.
And 100 000 when Heathrow expansion will be done.
And free milk for everyone when aliens will land.
Pinky promise.
People are skeptical for very good reasons.
It’ll be another poorly run project until the laws that require these schemes to be managed by private firms under government contracts are ended and control is given to the state.
The HS2 debacle for instance , is because private firms compete with one another to get state contracts and will undercut each other with their cost projections and planning…. only for it in practice to inevitably get held up in years and years of pre-planning, renegotiations, private firm collapse and much much more, only for those costs to inflate rapidly because once work has started it is very easy for these companies to demand more money from the taxpayer to make these works go ahead. Then there are the complications of when these companies create their own sub-contracts to other private firms who sub-contract… and so on and so forth.
If the state attempts to end the contract they can be sued. The ‚efficiency‘ of private firms taking on such large projects become wasteful, only for the blame to be placed on public spending in general when the issue is ‚privatisation as efficiency‘ ideology has been deeply embedded into our approach to any public ventures, it’s in-house engineering and planning capacities whittled away by neoliberal policy.
Other countries manage to make good investment into the economy: France, Germany, China… Because they don’t operate under this insane approach!
France’s SNCF is a state-owned rail company with internal engineering expertise and long-term planning capacity.
Germany’s Deutsche Bahn, though technically corporatised, remains publicly owned and reinvests profits domestically.
China’s infrastructure model uses state-owned enterprises (SOEs) that operate on industrial policy goals rather than short-term shareholder returns.
In all these cases, the state retains institutional memory and technical capacity. They don’t have to start from zero or outsource expertise every time they want to invest in infrastructure.
We have a Climate Emergency. This is an existential war were costs and public debts are now irrelevant, it HAS to be done. Would you trust the military to be run this way?
Good luck with that, they can’t even find enough builders, plumbers and electricians for building new homes. And this target is by 2030, so it’s less than 100’000 jobs a year. You can’t create jobs if people don’t want to do those jobs. Stop making these pointless announcements. People are struggling with a cost of living crisis and want to see action now that is going to make things easier for them. What’s going on the GBE, has anyone seen their bills coming down yet? And why have they wasted tax payers money renationalising the trains when surely water companies should have been the first priority, everybody users water. Only around 14% of the population use trains on a weekly basis. This Government really has got a clue.