I turned on Newstalk this morning and it was more of the same!
Key_Duck_6293 on
Irish Independent have always been politically right wing, they are just less obvious than similar publications in other countries
JimboJSlice on
Those are opinion pieces. None that I agree with but opinion pieces nonetheless.
I think the real discussion should be around media literacy so people know what the are reading.
CurrencyDesperate286 on
This look like pretty explicit OPINION pieces, where the view is very clearly being put forth as personal and biased. Look at all the names front and centre, plus “I”, “MY” etc.
All media organisations will lean a certain way – media consumers can decide if they are ok with a particular organisation’s leanings.
Now, what can be more problematic is bias leading to misleading reporting.
Suvigirl on
These are all opinions OP. Everyone is entitled to their opinions. If you don’t like them you don’t have to read them.
They are not media bias.
Due-Communication724 on
Its almost like FG did take Ivan Yates advice somewhat
TheStoicNihilist on
These are all opinion pieces and clearly labelled as such. We need to learn how to parse biased information rather than demand to be fed entirely neutral information, which is an impossibility.
The3rdbaboon on
So what? They are opinion pieces. It’s a fairly commonly held opinion as well, we have 2 joke candidates neither of whom are fit for the job. Turnout is going to be about 30% and whoever gets elected is going to be most unpopular president in the history of the state.
bungle123 on
Newspapers are under no obligation to be unbiased, I don’t know why so many people seem to just be finding this out now. Imagine reading the Irish Independent and being shocked that they’re not pro Connolly lol
madboutham on
Lots of people filled with hot air throwing tantrums things aren’t going their way. It’s embarrassing tbh
RomfordWellington on
Opinion pieces. They’re not the actual news.
Did people in this country suddenly forget how to read newspapers?!
sarcasticseawitch on
Proofreading for basic spelling and grammar prior to publication would be great. The standard is so very low lately.
IntrepidAstronaut863 on
All of them are opinion. I have seen a fair few in the Irish times that are positive about CC.
She’s a polarising figure. In your bubble probably not and she may as well be a saint but to a lot of people in this country her views do not align and the range of opinion pieces reflect this.
I swear some CC supporters are as bad as MAGA when it comes to claiming the press is “rigged and fake”
Femtato11 on
„The far left candidate“
Poke Fine Gael and they go back to being Blueshirts I swear
qwerty_1965 on
The independent is free to hold a view on a party, a candidate, or policy as it sees fit either at an editorial level or in the opinion columns.
It is against someone they regard as holding the wrong views on the big issues.
Duck_quacker on
Reddit needs to realize that the vast majority of people don’t like Connolly, it doesn’t make them overtly right wing or bias.
Accomplished-Try-658 on
Are we really suggesting that the frontrunner ISNT a popularist and a useful idiot who takes advise from clowns like Clare Daly?
Soft-Affect-8327 on
You’re posting about the Sunday Independent and one of the Op Ed guys. Only conversation to be had is to anyone who expected different from them.
DonQuigleone on
All the screenshots are from a single national newspaper. You’re not doing a good job of illustrating media bias. Where’s RTE? The Irish Times? Tabloids?
PowerfulConstant185 on
That guy David Quinn is so far off the mainstream it’s crazy he gets a column.
Due-Background8370 on
The Indo draws from such a small circle that two of their opinion columnists above are sisters.
itstheboombox on
Its almost like some people have negative opinions of a presidential candidate and wrote opinion pieces about why, oh the horror!
Entire-Gas-7651 on
Never heard of him until this campaign but that fella John Lee seems like an absolute weapon
Neither-Mechanic5524 on
I never understand this argument. Reddit is media with a massively larger audience than the Info. A survey of r/Ireland will show how bias is everywhere – it just depends on your chosen media sources.
CiaranC on
You know, I think if Catherine Connolly shot someone on shop street she probably wouldn’t win the election.
tunaman1987 on
These headings will make me vote for Connolly even more
Keyann on
I’m not a Connolly fan and I won’t be voting for her but the smear campaign is ludicrous at this stage. Attack the views, opinions, and policy. Don’t attack the person. Two (and formerly three) very uninspiring candidates. For the first time in my life, I’m seriously considering abstaining from voting.
Alpha-Centauri-Blue on
Yet go on any social media and you’re bombarded with pro Connelly messaging, except for some reason that’s ok
They are terrible candidates though either would be a 3rd or 4th place in the 2011 election, so I kinda agree with some of the headline.
Full_Mushroom_6903 on
Have you never read the Indo before?
Deep-Cryptographer49 on
I’m always intrigued when people talk about media bias, what exactly do the view media as?
The Indo has to sell papers or gain engagement online to create ad revenue. Simply reporting news as in events, doesn’t sell papers, it’s not like a 100 years ago where your only conduit for news was the printed paper, so 7 day old news was still ’news‘ to you.
These are opinion pieces, written to sway opinions. Opinions can’t exactly be neutral. It is our desire to be either right or left, that creates media bias as they look to get your subscription.
As for the nonsense about „independent, citizen journalism“ well that is just laughable.
We slag off RTE news here in Ireland, but state media at least does not have the commercial imperative, to get revenue by appealing to those who are willing to pay for what they want to hear and read. As for the accusations of them kowtowing to the government of the day, well again that is generally incorrect because governments change, editorial policies tend to be long term.
BBC and RTE are vast degrees better and more honest than say foxnews.
The people most likely to be influenced by opinion pieces such as these, have already been influenced to ignore actual news media, generally by more right wing leaning groups and so are easy pickings.
FewHeat1231 on
‚Heather Humphreys is awful but Connolly would be even worse‘ is a pretty legitimate position to take in an opinion piece.
cm-cfc on
Tbf newspapers have never been unbiased. They always promote the side most if their readers want. The UK elections would have a big sway to who the Sun was backing.
Question is, is there a left leaning big newspaper in Ireland for balance
miju-irl on
If you ever think a media article or media source is fully unbiased, then that’s on you for being naive.
TheLegendaryStag353 on
I noticed that this morning reading the Sunday papers. There is a significant anti Connolly trend
manwithtan on
The blatant cronyism in this country is crippling this country’s future
ab1dt on
The idea to ascribe her as Trump like is maddening. The media take is just misogyny. Martin is also like them. If Turbidy said the same points and did the same actions, then he would be revered as a hero. He would be considered as a worthy candidate for President.
For once Ireland has someone that is representative of Ireland at its core and the masses rather than some cigar smoking back room politician.
StrongCelery on
All political parties had an opportunity to put forward viable candidates. That Humphrey’s was the best FF/FG could muster is a reflection on them not Connolly.
It is now a two horse race and most people realise that Humphrey would be one of our worst presidents ever, certainly the worst since Dev. Some of our best presidents have been left leaning like Robinson and Higgins so I hope Connolly is in that ilk.
Garlic-Cheese-Chips on
The media keeps trying to Americanise our politics, presumably because there is clicks from ragebait articles and therefore money in it
No_Guest2198 on
Short of tarring and feathering, typical FFG smear campaign tactics. Utterly disgusting and disingenuous behaviour
Independent_Dig_142 on
The Indo’s not fit to wipe your arse with
elwoodreversepass on
The actual insanity and gall of trying to link CATHERINE FECKING CONNOLLY to a Trump trope.
That guy should never get another column inch in his life. Absolutely pathetic.
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I turned on Newstalk this morning and it was more of the same!
Irish Independent have always been politically right wing, they are just less obvious than similar publications in other countries
Those are opinion pieces. None that I agree with but opinion pieces nonetheless.
I think the real discussion should be around media literacy so people know what the are reading.
This look like pretty explicit OPINION pieces, where the view is very clearly being put forth as personal and biased. Look at all the names front and centre, plus “I”, “MY” etc.
All media organisations will lean a certain way – media consumers can decide if they are ok with a particular organisation’s leanings.
Now, what can be more problematic is bias leading to misleading reporting.
These are all opinions OP. Everyone is entitled to their opinions. If you don’t like them you don’t have to read them.
They are not media bias.
Its almost like FG did take Ivan Yates advice somewhat
These are all opinion pieces and clearly labelled as such. We need to learn how to parse biased information rather than demand to be fed entirely neutral information, which is an impossibility.
So what? They are opinion pieces. It’s a fairly commonly held opinion as well, we have 2 joke candidates neither of whom are fit for the job. Turnout is going to be about 30% and whoever gets elected is going to be most unpopular president in the history of the state.
Newspapers are under no obligation to be unbiased, I don’t know why so many people seem to just be finding this out now. Imagine reading the Irish Independent and being shocked that they’re not pro Connolly lol
Lots of people filled with hot air throwing tantrums things aren’t going their way. It’s embarrassing tbh
Opinion pieces. They’re not the actual news.
Did people in this country suddenly forget how to read newspapers?!
Proofreading for basic spelling and grammar prior to publication would be great. The standard is so very low lately.
All of them are opinion. I have seen a fair few in the Irish times that are positive about CC.
She’s a polarising figure. In your bubble probably not and she may as well be a saint but to a lot of people in this country her views do not align and the range of opinion pieces reflect this.
I swear some CC supporters are as bad as MAGA when it comes to claiming the press is “rigged and fake”
„The far left candidate“
Poke Fine Gael and they go back to being Blueshirts I swear
The independent is free to hold a view on a party, a candidate, or policy as it sees fit either at an editorial level or in the opinion columns.
It is against someone they regard as holding the wrong views on the big issues.
Reddit needs to realize that the vast majority of people don’t like Connolly, it doesn’t make them overtly right wing or bias.
Are we really suggesting that the frontrunner ISNT a popularist and a useful idiot who takes advise from clowns like Clare Daly?
You’re posting about the Sunday Independent and one of the Op Ed guys. Only conversation to be had is to anyone who expected different from them.
All the screenshots are from a single national newspaper. You’re not doing a good job of illustrating media bias. Where’s RTE? The Irish Times? Tabloids?
That guy David Quinn is so far off the mainstream it’s crazy he gets a column.
The Indo draws from such a small circle that two of their opinion columnists above are sisters.
Its almost like some people have negative opinions of a presidential candidate and wrote opinion pieces about why, oh the horror!
Never heard of him until this campaign but that fella John Lee seems like an absolute weapon
I never understand this argument. Reddit is media with a massively larger audience than the Info. A survey of r/Ireland will show how bias is everywhere – it just depends on your chosen media sources.
You know, I think if Catherine Connolly shot someone on shop street she probably wouldn’t win the election.
These headings will make me vote for Connolly even more
I’m not a Connolly fan and I won’t be voting for her but the smear campaign is ludicrous at this stage. Attack the views, opinions, and policy. Don’t attack the person. Two (and formerly three) very uninspiring candidates. For the first time in my life, I’m seriously considering abstaining from voting.
Yet go on any social media and you’re bombarded with pro Connelly messaging, except for some reason that’s ok
https://preview.redd.it/rbvx6yjt22wf1.jpeg?width=1564&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a2136151a1aa55e32616c8aa81786204affbe7cd
I can find plenty of negative headlines on HH too
They are terrible candidates though either would be a 3rd or 4th place in the 2011 election, so I kinda agree with some of the headline.
Have you never read the Indo before?
I’m always intrigued when people talk about media bias, what exactly do the view media as?
The Indo has to sell papers or gain engagement online to create ad revenue. Simply reporting news as in events, doesn’t sell papers, it’s not like a 100 years ago where your only conduit for news was the printed paper, so 7 day old news was still ’news‘ to you.
These are opinion pieces, written to sway opinions. Opinions can’t exactly be neutral. It is our desire to be either right or left, that creates media bias as they look to get your subscription.
As for the nonsense about „independent, citizen journalism“ well that is just laughable.
We slag off RTE news here in Ireland, but state media at least does not have the commercial imperative, to get revenue by appealing to those who are willing to pay for what they want to hear and read. As for the accusations of them kowtowing to the government of the day, well again that is generally incorrect because governments change, editorial policies tend to be long term.
BBC and RTE are vast degrees better and more honest than say foxnews.
The people most likely to be influenced by opinion pieces such as these, have already been influenced to ignore actual news media, generally by more right wing leaning groups and so are easy pickings.
‚Heather Humphreys is awful but Connolly would be even worse‘ is a pretty legitimate position to take in an opinion piece.
Tbf newspapers have never been unbiased. They always promote the side most if their readers want. The UK elections would have a big sway to who the Sun was backing.
Question is, is there a left leaning big newspaper in Ireland for balance
If you ever think a media article or media source is fully unbiased, then that’s on you for being naive.
I noticed that this morning reading the Sunday papers. There is a significant anti Connolly trend
The blatant cronyism in this country is crippling this country’s future
The idea to ascribe her as Trump like is maddening. The media take is just misogyny. Martin is also like them. If Turbidy said the same points and did the same actions, then he would be revered as a hero. He would be considered as a worthy candidate for President.
For once Ireland has someone that is representative of Ireland at its core and the masses rather than some cigar smoking back room politician.
All political parties had an opportunity to put forward viable candidates. That Humphrey’s was the best FF/FG could muster is a reflection on them not Connolly.
It is now a two horse race and most people realise that Humphrey would be one of our worst presidents ever, certainly the worst since Dev. Some of our best presidents have been left leaning like Robinson and Higgins so I hope Connolly is in that ilk.
The media keeps trying to Americanise our politics, presumably because there is clicks from ragebait articles and therefore money in it
Short of tarring and feathering, typical FFG smear campaign tactics. Utterly disgusting and disingenuous behaviour
The Indo’s not fit to wipe your arse with
The actual insanity and gall of trying to link CATHERINE FECKING CONNOLLY to a Trump trope.
That guy should never get another column inch in his life. Absolutely pathetic.