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    1. BobBobBobBobBobDave on

      If it is A-level standard as in „could you pass an A-level in English language? „, the vast majority of native English speakers couldn’t, so that seems a weird standard to set.

    2. These arguments are so obviously self defeating. Why would we only want migrants to take the good high paying jobs?

      Are we all so yearning to pick fruit and change bedding while recent migrants lord it over us with their massive wages?

    3. Whilst it’s good to have higher standards.. there’s a fair few people I know who failed their English GCSE and can’t even fathom a comprehensive thought..

    4. ADelightfulCunt on

      Tbh they’ll just pay a paper school to say they have the required English level.

    5. beIIe-and-sebastian on

      Hah, foreign born people on student visa’s already require enough knowledge of English to understand complex ideas, discussions and communicate clearly and effectively in English.

      I’ve seen enough ’students‘ doing Deliveroo and UberEats at the McDonalds counter that can’t recite the numbers and letters in their pickup order.

      The fact they don’t enforce the existing requirements give me no hope this would be followed either.

    6. I always (as a high-skilled migrant who passed the necessary English test with surprisingly very high marks) highlighted that current English language requirements are a joke, but this seems to be now going into the direction of being too harsh. My daughter is currently doing English A-Level and…. no way I could have passed that with any sort of good marks. They should find balance… perhaps B2-C1, and add other considerations into the mix. Australia does it perfectly: eduacation, english level, actual need of your profession and readiness of the employer to chip in – all taken into account. If you got perect English and a PhD – you don’t even need a sponsor, if you are a brillian manual labourer that is in super-high need but got very little English knowledge, your sponsor will have to weigh in heavily, but they can get you in. Should be the same here. Don’t need to re-invent the wheel, honestly.

    7. violet4everr on

      Arent there already language requirements (and equivalents) available? Why not a standardized test to be performed before acquirement, rather than A level standard?
      I had to show English competency before coming here, my high school diploma was enough.

    8. How does this solve the problem with illegal migrants exactly ? …

      Legal migration has always been straight forward to fix, it just needed resolve from the govt. to tighten the rules sufficiently till numbers drop.

      Funny thing is this rule will also affect those from the EU, good luck getting qualified people coming to this country just cause their English is decent but not great. It’s fucked.

    9. furrycroissant on

      Why are we forcing migrants to this standard when we can’t get our own children to that standard? Christ alive

    10. For people confused, it seems the plan is to require a level of English equivalent to that of *a foreign language at A-Level*. It’s **not** asking for people to have studied English Literature at A-Level.

      A-Levels in a (foreign) language aren’t directly translatable to CFER levels, but *generally* an it’ll be between B2 and C2. Currently Skilled Worker Visa applicants required at a minimum of B1 – so this is definitely a raising of the bar.

    11. I mean, I dont think this is unreasonable, for example if I wanted to move to France, id be expected to have a decent level of fluency in French.

    12. Still-Status7299 on

      Set the same standard for born Brits , sometimes the standard is appalling

    13. I think Labour will have implemented half of Reform UK’s policies themselves during whats left of this parliament.

    14. The article is paywalled. Did it say whether they’re going to keep the proof-of-English-proficiency exemptions for immigrants from other English-speaking countries? (I’m asking because I don’t want to have to shell out yet another £150 to prove that I can speak my native language.)

    15. hadawayandshite on

      For those talking about the test, I googled it and this is apparently the B2

      Reading & Writing

      Consists of four tasks and is two hours long.

      Long reading task: the candidate reads a single text and answers 15 questions. Topics usually covered are, public figures past and present, early memories and the world of work.
      Multi-text reading task: the candidate reads four texts and answers 15 questions. Topics customarily covered are education, personal values and ideas and national customs.
      Reading into writing task: the candidate produces a piece of writing based on the four selected topics in task two.
      Extended writing task: the candidate produces a piece of writing in response to a prompt. Topics that could be covered are society and living standards, pollution and recycling, and village and city life.
      Speaking & listening

      Consists of four tasks and is 20 minutes long

      1. Topic (4 minutes long)

      You will choose a topic to prepare before the test, for discussion with the examiner.
      Remember to bring your topic notes, a diagram, or a mind map, if you have prepared any, to the exam for discussion with the examiner.
      2. Collaborative (4 minutes long)

      The examiner reads the candidate a prompt. The candidate responds to the prompt by starting, leading, and maintaining the interaction with questions. It is essential for the candidate to initiate, interact and collaborate with the examiner and not wait for the examiner to lead the conversation.
      3. Conversation (2 minutes long)

      You will have a short conversation with the examiner about one subject area chosen by the examiner.
      4. Independent listening (10 minutes)

      Candidates will listen to a recording and answer questions related to the recording.
      The examiner will play the recording twice, the candidates may take notes while listening for the second time. Notes are optional and are not assessed.
      To help you prepare for your B2 – ISE II Trinity has a variety of preparation materials for you to choose from.

      https://www.trinitycollege.com/qualifications/SELT/prepare-test-B2/reading-writing-B2

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