Netanyahu is the worst representative of the Israeli people since maybe Rome – Herod. Talk about using Jewish good will and sympathy gained through the holocaust to further personal goals.
He’s not an ally. He’s a consummate manipulator who users alliances to feed his extreme far right agenda. Then he stiffs his friends after he’s done getting what he wants out of them.
Virbillion on
Israel is the greatest cumulative recipient of us aide. We created the Israel military which is a major global military force in a nation 1/5th the size of Kentucky. We have enabled Israel to become uncompromising, us aide is the reason why there will be conflict until Israel succeeds in driving out the majority of Palestinians and settling all the land.
technical_todd on
Netanyahu has done more damage to the Jewish community than Hamas ever could.
BonusPlastic6279 on
He’s a grifter.
TemetN on
I mean, you remember that MBS exists? Don’t get me wrong, Netanyahu is a scumbag, but the bar is so low that I’m not even sure he’s in the bottom three.
Honestly we should be extraditing MBS for trial.
jayfeather31 on
No shit. His government has turned Israel into an albatross around America’s neck.
CaptainAxiomatic on
Benjamin Netanyahu Is Not America’s Ally
FTFY
Howdthecatdothat on
Netanyahu is Israel’s Giuliani. He had a chance to go down in history as a leader in a moment of crisis and solidify a legacy of leadership. He had a chance to unite all of Israel and the world in response to the unimaginable horrible attack on October 7th. Instead, he has single handedly shifted the narrative away from a focus on the actions of Hamas and instead on the actions of Israel in response.
Xezshibole on
Yeah? That was pretty obvious?
Israel’s not an ally of any actual use to us. It’s a trophy wife, meant to sit there and look protected for all our pearl clutching “Holy Land” voters back home.
For a start it sits in somewhere strategically irrelevant to us. The Levant (Palestine, Israel, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon) is well…….not very important historically nor the present day. Hasn’t changed then, hasn’t changed now. It’s just, outside of religious concerns nobody outside the Middle East region cares about it.
Outside the Umayyads based in Syria, not used by any empires as an actual power base. And on a tangent, the Umayyads specifically fell because they refused to integrate Syrians nor Persians into the highest levels of power, preferring Arabs from Arabia. All that area is good for was a frontier, buffer, client, or tributary state for one of the three power blocs in the region. The three being the Nile Delta (Egypt,) Anatolia (Turkey,) or Mesopotamia (Iraq.) On the rare occasion all three are weak you get small client/buffer states existing off the grace of some patron, like Crusader state of Jerusalem to HRE, or Israel today to USA.
Places like Syria could have a civil war for 10+ years and great powers will content themselves with proxy wars with advisors and ~~mercs~~ contractors.
Meanwhile invade an actual strategically important place like a Persian Gulf State and you’d get Desert Stormed within months for disrupting oil production. It’s a reason why our bases in the region are clustered there. It is the reason why we have *actual* allies in that region, the Sauds, the hosts of Desert Storm.
Speaking of relevant area, Israel’s military is similarly irrelevant, not showing up in important Gulf areas like Iraq and such during our wars. What use is an alliance when the nearby ally doesn’t help?
Answer to why is quite simple. Israel’s diplomacy is utterly incompetent, unable to swing the needle on UN votes in the Palestinian matter despite 70+ years to work on it. Fact of the matter is nobody aside from the US likes it, and nobody is going to suffer the unrest of letting *Israel* waltz its military through their territory. Hence the aforementioned absence in the *two* Iraq wars despite it being a mere country over (Sauds said no ****.) Hell even right now we see this in action as Israel *still* have no presence in Aden when their trade is being directly threatened by Houthis. Doesn’t matter if the Sauds and Egyptians denying access also hate the Houthis, they’d be damned if they let Israel sail anywhere near Mecca nor Medina with a military. With the inability to help even in Iraq, there’s reasonable doubt Israel would even be able to help militarily in any hypothetical Iran conflict.
Israel basically can’t help us with anything anywhere that matters. They can fight their neighbors for us sure, but again, the Levant is not anywhere that matters. Hell, we had a proxy war in Syria rather than a full war and *still* elected to proxy it from the Iraq (Kurd) side rather than from Israel.
All this points to the fact of the matter that Israel isn’t really an ally. It’s a trophy wife. Just shut up, listen to your patron, look protected for all our declining pearl clutching voters back home.
Mcboatface3sghost on
Ally?
schizophrenicism on
Orban is worse, but I hope Bibi gets elected out or prosecuted by his own countries laws
KosherPigBalls on
Israel’s too.
dennis-w220 on
Who said he is America’s ally? He is probably GOP’s ally though- I remember he traveled to D.C. to bash Obama in Capitol Hill when Obamas was still the POTUS.
cadmiumore on
He’s not an ally. He’s a leach.
starbucksntacotrucks on
The US government could give 2 shits about Netanyahu. All they care about is AIPAC money.
SmedlyB on
For some reason he has the christian religion by the throat. Maybe Israel found the the ossuary of Jesus and Yah-hoo Yah-hoo is holding Christianity hostage. Just imagine the power of holding a centuries old religion hostage.
Low_Minimum2351 on
It’d be a shame if something happened to him
mowotlarx on
He’s not an ally. He’s a right wing nationalist ghoul who is on trial for corruption in his own country. He wants anything more than Donald Trump, an anti-American insurrectionist, to win the election.
So it begs the question why we send him billions every year.
jim_br on
Now I know how the world felt in 2016!
_Galileo_Galilei_ on
> U.S. officials with whom I have spoken say the Biden administration is “beyond frustrated” with the Israeli prime minister.
He’s BEYOND frustrated folks. He’s troubled, miffed and *deeply* concerned*!
thewallyp on
Yep, he is no ally. He is only his own ally. Trying to stay out of jail.
herperderpering on
He is not an ally and it’s time the US publicly and loudly says that we will stand with Israel, but not Netanyahu.
He needs to go.
Cool_Raspberry443 on
He’s all but actively sinking Biden to get his friend Trump back.
Playful-Regret-1890 on
He’s a nut bar just like that orange fella.
UnmodifiedSauromalus on
he and all of israel is an enemy of democracy and of american peace and stability
son_of_wtf on
he is not an ally at all. he is a grifter and a killer
Funkywurm on
He doesn’t give af about the U.S., fuck him and fuck Biden for bending the knee
>The U.S. cannot be accused of creating that precarious condition. If anything, it has indulged Netanyahu far too greatly.
>No, the problem afflicting the relationship is the same as that afflicting Israeli politics and the future well-being of the people of Gaza. At a moment when all should be able to effectively unite against the evil of Hamas, they must contend with another obstructionist, misguided, incompetent and its core, actively malevolent, force—that of an Israeli prime minister who, as it turns out, is an ally or advocate for no one but himself.
Is it weird to have a feeling like, Netanyahu is Trump, and the US is his father always bailing him out and helping cover for him, and now has just absolutely no qualms because he’s never faced real consequences?
PhysicalPolicy6227 on
He is a heinous dick
lovswitnctr on
Mr Netanyahu. The WHOLE WORLD HATES YOUR STINKY ATTITUDES.
stonedunikid on
Ya know, a couple of months ago I couldn’t see a single post on this subreddit that had to do with the Israeli apartheid regime without the comments being flooded with extremely Islamophobic sentiment and outright enthusiasm for more Palestinian deaths. Seeing how the general attitude changing and more and more people expressing sympathy and concern and caring for the Palestinian people gives me some hope. Well done r/Politics. You put r/news and r/worldnews to shame.
Veyron2000 on
I wish people would stop pretending the problem is just Netenyahu – most of the Israeli political establishment, and most Israeli voters, have much the same attitudes (that’s why Netenyahu got elected in the first place despite the corruption).
*Israel* is America’s worst ally, and will continue to be so until the USA stops treating the relationship differently from its relationship with every other ally.
Funky-trash-human on
That’s a funny way to spell “war criminal” 🤨
Justprunes-6344 on
He is no ally
tidal_flux on
The older generations have this view of Israel as a plucky young upstart trying to make its way in the bad part of town. It’s misguided and no longer maps onto reality.
Hopefully the younger generations will give Israel the treatment its actions deserve.
ExcellentTeam7721 on
Fuck him. He needs to be put on trial.
Relyt21 on
An ally implies both parties benefit. America doesn’t benefit from the Israel government at all.
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Netanyahu is the worst representative of the Israeli people since maybe Rome – Herod. Talk about using Jewish good will and sympathy gained through the holocaust to further personal goals.
Netanyahu played Biden. [Biden knows Netanyahu played Biden](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/11/tim-kaine-interview-biden-israel-netanyahu). Clearly, Netanyahu continues to play Biden.
He’s not an ally. He’s a consummate manipulator who users alliances to feed his extreme far right agenda. Then he stiffs his friends after he’s done getting what he wants out of them.
Israel is the greatest cumulative recipient of us aide. We created the Israel military which is a major global military force in a nation 1/5th the size of Kentucky. We have enabled Israel to become uncompromising, us aide is the reason why there will be conflict until Israel succeeds in driving out the majority of Palestinians and settling all the land.
Netanyahu has done more damage to the Jewish community than Hamas ever could.
He’s a grifter.
I mean, you remember that MBS exists? Don’t get me wrong, Netanyahu is a scumbag, but the bar is so low that I’m not even sure he’s in the bottom three.
Honestly we should be extraditing MBS for trial.
No shit. His government has turned Israel into an albatross around America’s neck.
Benjamin Netanyahu Is Not America’s Ally
FTFY
Netanyahu is Israel’s Giuliani. He had a chance to go down in history as a leader in a moment of crisis and solidify a legacy of leadership. He had a chance to unite all of Israel and the world in response to the unimaginable horrible attack on October 7th. Instead, he has single handedly shifted the narrative away from a focus on the actions of Hamas and instead on the actions of Israel in response.
Yeah? That was pretty obvious?
Israel’s not an ally of any actual use to us. It’s a trophy wife, meant to sit there and look protected for all our pearl clutching “Holy Land” voters back home.
For a start it sits in somewhere strategically irrelevant to us. The Levant (Palestine, Israel, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon) is well…….not very important historically nor the present day. Hasn’t changed then, hasn’t changed now. It’s just, outside of religious concerns nobody outside the Middle East region cares about it.
Outside the Umayyads based in Syria, not used by any empires as an actual power base. And on a tangent, the Umayyads specifically fell because they refused to integrate Syrians nor Persians into the highest levels of power, preferring Arabs from Arabia. All that area is good for was a frontier, buffer, client, or tributary state for one of the three power blocs in the region. The three being the Nile Delta (Egypt,) Anatolia (Turkey,) or Mesopotamia (Iraq.) On the rare occasion all three are weak you get small client/buffer states existing off the grace of some patron, like Crusader state of Jerusalem to HRE, or Israel today to USA.
Places like Syria could have a civil war for 10+ years and great powers will content themselves with proxy wars with advisors and ~~mercs~~ contractors.
Meanwhile invade an actual strategically important place like a Persian Gulf State and you’d get Desert Stormed within months for disrupting oil production. It’s a reason why our bases in the region are clustered there. It is the reason why we have *actual* allies in that region, the Sauds, the hosts of Desert Storm.
Speaking of relevant area, Israel’s military is similarly irrelevant, not showing up in important Gulf areas like Iraq and such during our wars. What use is an alliance when the nearby ally doesn’t help?
Answer to why is quite simple. Israel’s diplomacy is utterly incompetent, unable to swing the needle on UN votes in the Palestinian matter despite 70+ years to work on it. Fact of the matter is nobody aside from the US likes it, and nobody is going to suffer the unrest of letting *Israel* waltz its military through their territory. Hence the aforementioned absence in the *two* Iraq wars despite it being a mere country over (Sauds said no ****.) Hell even right now we see this in action as Israel *still* have no presence in Aden when their trade is being directly threatened by Houthis. Doesn’t matter if the Sauds and Egyptians denying access also hate the Houthis, they’d be damned if they let Israel sail anywhere near Mecca nor Medina with a military. With the inability to help even in Iraq, there’s reasonable doubt Israel would even be able to help militarily in any hypothetical Iran conflict.
Israel basically can’t help us with anything anywhere that matters. They can fight their neighbors for us sure, but again, the Levant is not anywhere that matters. Hell, we had a proxy war in Syria rather than a full war and *still* elected to proxy it from the Iraq (Kurd) side rather than from Israel.
All this points to the fact of the matter that Israel isn’t really an ally. It’s a trophy wife. Just shut up, listen to your patron, look protected for all our declining pearl clutching voters back home.
Ally?
Orban is worse, but I hope Bibi gets elected out or prosecuted by his own countries laws
Israel’s too.
Who said he is America’s ally? He is probably GOP’s ally though- I remember he traveled to D.C. to bash Obama in Capitol Hill when Obamas was still the POTUS.
He’s not an ally. He’s a leach.
The US government could give 2 shits about Netanyahu. All they care about is AIPAC money.
For some reason he has the christian religion by the throat. Maybe Israel found the the ossuary of Jesus and Yah-hoo Yah-hoo is holding Christianity hostage. Just imagine the power of holding a centuries old religion hostage.
It’d be a shame if something happened to him
He’s not an ally. He’s a right wing nationalist ghoul who is on trial for corruption in his own country. He wants anything more than Donald Trump, an anti-American insurrectionist, to win the election.
So it begs the question why we send him billions every year.
Now I know how the world felt in 2016!
> U.S. officials with whom I have spoken say the Biden administration is “beyond frustrated” with the Israeli prime minister.
He’s BEYOND frustrated folks. He’s troubled, miffed and *deeply* concerned*!
Yep, he is no ally. He is only his own ally. Trying to stay out of jail.
He is not an ally and it’s time the US publicly and loudly says that we will stand with Israel, but not Netanyahu.
He needs to go.
He’s all but actively sinking Biden to get his friend Trump back.
He’s a nut bar just like that orange fella.
he and all of israel is an enemy of democracy and of american peace and stability
he is not an ally at all. he is a grifter and a killer
He doesn’t give af about the U.S., fuck him and fuck Biden for bending the knee
Archive link if anyone needs it: [https://archive.is/VmVJG](https://archive.is/VmVJG)
end paragraphs caught my eye:
>The U.S.-Israeli relationship, therefore, despite all the efforts of President [Joe Biden](https://archive.is/o/VmVJG/https://www.thedailybeast.com/keyword/joe-biden) and his team to both support Israel and to help guide it away from damaging policy choices, is currently in terrible shape.
>The U.S. cannot be accused of creating that precarious condition. If anything, it has indulged Netanyahu far too greatly.
>No, the problem afflicting the relationship is the same as that afflicting Israeli politics and the future well-being of the people of Gaza. At a moment when all should be able to effectively unite against the evil of Hamas, they must contend with another obstructionist, misguided, incompetent and its core, actively malevolent, force—that of an Israeli prime minister who, as it turns out, is an ally or advocate for no one but himself.
Is it weird to have a feeling like, Netanyahu is Trump, and the US is his father always bailing him out and helping cover for him, and now has just absolutely no qualms because he’s never faced real consequences?
He is a heinous dick
Mr Netanyahu. The WHOLE WORLD HATES YOUR STINKY ATTITUDES.
Ya know, a couple of months ago I couldn’t see a single post on this subreddit that had to do with the Israeli apartheid regime without the comments being flooded with extremely Islamophobic sentiment and outright enthusiasm for more Palestinian deaths. Seeing how the general attitude changing and more and more people expressing sympathy and concern and caring for the Palestinian people gives me some hope. Well done r/Politics. You put r/news and r/worldnews to shame.
I wish people would stop pretending the problem is just Netenyahu – most of the Israeli political establishment, and most Israeli voters, have much the same attitudes (that’s why Netenyahu got elected in the first place despite the corruption).
*Israel* is America’s worst ally, and will continue to be so until the USA stops treating the relationship differently from its relationship with every other ally.
That’s a funny way to spell “war criminal” 🤨
He is no ally
The older generations have this view of Israel as a plucky young upstart trying to make its way in the bad part of town. It’s misguided and no longer maps onto reality.
Hopefully the younger generations will give Israel the treatment its actions deserve.
Fuck him. He needs to be put on trial.
An ally implies both parties benefit. America doesn’t benefit from the Israel government at all.