hmm… it says give it to everyone then claim it back. Yeah, that worked nicely for Covid fraud didnt it!?
RaymondBumcheese on
Coincidentally, don’t we also have more than 3 million pensioners who are millionaires?
Zestyclose_System556 on
News just in, wealthiest generation is too wealthy to claim benefits.
YoshiMK on
My parents who are currently eyeing up their 5th cruise this year will be mad about this I bet
perpendiculator on
Okay, good? Means-tested benefit is means-tested. Apparently this is controversial now, but maybe benefits should only be available to the people who actually need them, and not just handed out to the entire population as an electoral bribe.
Palestine_Achtung on
Give everyone benefits.
Tax each benefit at 100% at certain thresholds
ACompletelyLostCause on
There’s about 13 million pensioners, that’s less than 1 in 3 being told they are too wealthy for a top-up benefit meant to help the poorest people.
I know a good few pensioners and I’d say at least a third have a higher income than me and I’m worked. I don’t begrudge them a decent standard of living, but they don’t NEED the extra money, and other much poorer people do.
FryingFrenzy on
One of the worst things we do in this country is confusing wealth and income
You can have a very high income but have no wealth
This means testing is purely on income, not wealth.
AndyTheSane on
I remember when Cameron an Osbourne came in and we were about £200 a month worse off from the loss of child benefit and tax credits. WFA is max £25 a month..
You wot! Laybor are staeelin‘ ma naaan’s maneee!
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Electronic_Cream_780 on
£35k seems fair. £12k definitely wasn’t
Met the mother of a friend of mine on a coach trip. She lost her husband but has his pension from the navy + his pension from the police + her full NHS pension + state pension. She does not need another £300
mysilvermachine on
Actually most in this position are opting out of the wfp to avoid tax complications .
AdrianFish on
Oh no! I’m sure we can tax income a little harder to rectify this /s
MattDubh on
Does this include the pensioners that live in palaces? Or do they still get a teet to suckle?
Cats_oftheTundra on
I got my popcorn ready before opening this thread. Yep, typical Reddit – „all old people are rich so screw them.“ It’ll be you one day. I will laugh if I’m not dead.
GhostRiders on
Is where people think all old are rich?
Remember that there are 1.6 million pensioners in living poverty and that number is growing every year.
Don’t let the Government and Media distract you, the fight is not between young v old but rich v poor.
cjc1983 on
I think there is a sense of entitlement to a lot of old age benefits. Driven by a mentality of „I’ve worked all my life, paid taxes all my life, the social contract means I should be able to retire in comfort with the state looking after me“…
Not saying I agree with it.
However one thing I think we should keep is free bus passes for OAPs.
Busses help with loneliness, mobility and christ, half the OAPs should have their licenses removed anyway so hopefully it encourages some modal shift.
travelcallcharlie on
„Retirees will not qualify for the payments this year if they have annual incomes above £35,000“
Given the median income in the UK is basically £35K, that means you can be earning more than 49% of working Britons and *still* get a government handout. Even with this restriction, pensioners are the most pandered to class.
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hmm… it says give it to everyone then claim it back. Yeah, that worked nicely for Covid fraud didnt it!?
Coincidentally, don’t we also have more than 3 million pensioners who are millionaires?
News just in, wealthiest generation is too wealthy to claim benefits.
My parents who are currently eyeing up their 5th cruise this year will be mad about this I bet
Okay, good? Means-tested benefit is means-tested. Apparently this is controversial now, but maybe benefits should only be available to the people who actually need them, and not just handed out to the entire population as an electoral bribe.
Give everyone benefits.
Tax each benefit at 100% at certain thresholds
There’s about 13 million pensioners, that’s less than 1 in 3 being told they are too wealthy for a top-up benefit meant to help the poorest people.
I know a good few pensioners and I’d say at least a third have a higher income than me and I’m worked. I don’t begrudge them a decent standard of living, but they don’t NEED the extra money, and other much poorer people do.
One of the worst things we do in this country is confusing wealth and income
You can have a very high income but have no wealth
This means testing is purely on income, not wealth.
I remember when Cameron an Osbourne came in and we were about £200 a month worse off from the loss of child benefit and tax credits. WFA is max £25 a month..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_each_according_to_his_ability,_to_each_according_to_his_needs
You wot! Laybor are staeelin‘ ma naaan’s maneee!
Righ! Am getttin‘ me flag aaaaat! Caaamon Tommiii!
£35k seems fair. £12k definitely wasn’t
Met the mother of a friend of mine on a coach trip. She lost her husband but has his pension from the navy + his pension from the police + her full NHS pension + state pension. She does not need another £300
Actually most in this position are opting out of the wfp to avoid tax complications .
Oh no! I’m sure we can tax income a little harder to rectify this /s
Does this include the pensioners that live in palaces? Or do they still get a teet to suckle?
I got my popcorn ready before opening this thread. Yep, typical Reddit – „all old people are rich so screw them.“ It’ll be you one day. I will laugh if I’m not dead.
Is where people think all old are rich?
Remember that there are 1.6 million pensioners in living poverty and that number is growing every year.
Don’t let the Government and Media distract you, the fight is not between young v old but rich v poor.
I think there is a sense of entitlement to a lot of old age benefits. Driven by a mentality of „I’ve worked all my life, paid taxes all my life, the social contract means I should be able to retire in comfort with the state looking after me“…
Not saying I agree with it.
However one thing I think we should keep is free bus passes for OAPs.
Busses help with loneliness, mobility and christ, half the OAPs should have their licenses removed anyway so hopefully it encourages some modal shift.
„Retirees will not qualify for the payments this year if they have annual incomes above £35,000“
Given the median income in the UK is basically £35K, that means you can be earning more than 49% of working Britons and *still* get a government handout. Even with this restriction, pensioners are the most pandered to class.