It does seem to be the slow beginning of the end. The large Billy Kelleher vote was the first sign. Question is when will they move? After his Taoiseach term ends?
Give the new leader a chance to get into the role and become familiar?
mrbuddymcbuddyface on
He’s been around too long already, so definitely the end is nigh
Accomplished-Try-658 on
If it is, it’s likely simply because it’s about time.
He’s left a lot of issues up in the air but they’re issues which are affecting every country today to some degree. Housing being the main one, as it’s been for 25 years
It’s hard to take against him in a full blooded way, apart from those who see politics as a competitive sport.
SoloWingPixy88 on
No
Commercial-One-5820 on
Hopefully. A stain on Irish History
ItIsAboutABicycle on
He’s been leader for 14 years, one of the last of the Old Guard (i.e. survivors from the days of Ahem), approaching retirement age anyway; probably time to hand the reigns over, though I expect he’ll finish his term as Taoiseach first.
Storyboys on
Well, that’s that then, it’s been decided. It’s officially everyone but Micheal Martins fault.
According to Ellen Coyne of the Irish Times, the problem is Martin is actually too good.
Verity_Ireland on
Honestly? Yes. The odds are far higher that he won’t make it to 2027 and a full term. He will be pressured to drop out so that a new face in the run up to a general election, can take over and be less of a liability to 2027 election party chances.
Storyboys on
Well that’s that then, it’s been decided. Micheal Martin can do no wrong.
It’s officially everyone but Micheal Martins fault, according to this article.
rockafellerskank95 on
Micheal Martin is the only person keeping Fianna Fail relevant. Most of the party are old people still living in the 1980s and his stance on social issues has allowed them to keep up with the other 2 main parties while most of the party would have chosen to reject the repeal vote for example which would have been suicide
WilsonWaits2 on
I don’t see why? What was he supposed to do re the Gavin situation?
The budget wasn’t received by those hoping for a giveaway, which would have been ridiculous in the current climate. No one is ever too excited about prudent economic policy, but it’s the sensible course at this stage (other than the hospitality vat reduction which is just absurd)
Fr_RebulahConundrum on
Hopefully
FewHeat1231 on
Honestly no, I don’t think so. The party bottled it at the meeting and I don’t think Martin will face any long term issues. In a few months he’ll be back to his old hubris.
GerKoll on
Hmm…he is 65, he’ll be 69 if the next election is in autumn 2029. I doubt he is out right now, but I also doubt he will stand for the next election, and I would not at all be surprised if he calls it a day sometime in 2027, before he really gets pushed…..
PoppedCork on
He will string it out for a long as he can.
Elegant-Chemical-283 on
Hopefully, the man is a liar.
RealDealMrSeal on
With any luck it will be
Foreign-Entrance-255 on
It would be if any of the backbenchers or „leaders in waiting“ had any balls but they don’t so he’s fine for a while yet.
Ok_Engine_9822 on
The beginning to him starting his Presidential campaign. The Irish who you know politics will keep this man around for a long while
mastodonj on
Fingers crossed!
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It does seem to be the slow beginning of the end. The large Billy Kelleher vote was the first sign. Question is when will they move? After his Taoiseach term ends?
Give the new leader a chance to get into the role and become familiar?
He’s been around too long already, so definitely the end is nigh
If it is, it’s likely simply because it’s about time.
He’s left a lot of issues up in the air but they’re issues which are affecting every country today to some degree. Housing being the main one, as it’s been for 25 years
It’s hard to take against him in a full blooded way, apart from those who see politics as a competitive sport.
No
Hopefully. A stain on Irish History
He’s been leader for 14 years, one of the last of the Old Guard (i.e. survivors from the days of Ahem), approaching retirement age anyway; probably time to hand the reigns over, though I expect he’ll finish his term as Taoiseach first.
Well, that’s that then, it’s been decided. It’s officially everyone but Micheal Martins fault.
According to Ellen Coyne of the Irish Times, the problem is Martin is actually too good.
Honestly? Yes. The odds are far higher that he won’t make it to 2027 and a full term. He will be pressured to drop out so that a new face in the run up to a general election, can take over and be less of a liability to 2027 election party chances.
Well that’s that then, it’s been decided. Micheal Martin can do no wrong.
It’s officially everyone but Micheal Martins fault, according to this article.
Micheal Martin is the only person keeping Fianna Fail relevant. Most of the party are old people still living in the 1980s and his stance on social issues has allowed them to keep up with the other 2 main parties while most of the party would have chosen to reject the repeal vote for example which would have been suicide
I don’t see why? What was he supposed to do re the Gavin situation?
The budget wasn’t received by those hoping for a giveaway, which would have been ridiculous in the current climate. No one is ever too excited about prudent economic policy, but it’s the sensible course at this stage (other than the hospitality vat reduction which is just absurd)
Hopefully
Honestly no, I don’t think so. The party bottled it at the meeting and I don’t think Martin will face any long term issues. In a few months he’ll be back to his old hubris.
Hmm…he is 65, he’ll be 69 if the next election is in autumn 2029. I doubt he is out right now, but I also doubt he will stand for the next election, and I would not at all be surprised if he calls it a day sometime in 2027, before he really gets pushed…..
He will string it out for a long as he can.
Hopefully, the man is a liar.
With any luck it will be
It would be if any of the backbenchers or „leaders in waiting“ had any balls but they don’t so he’s fine for a while yet.
The beginning to him starting his Presidential campaign. The Irish who you know politics will keep this man around for a long while
Fingers crossed!