Not shocking. The vape industry grew faster than the regulations around it. It’s basically Big Tobacco 2.0 hiding behind fruit flavors.
threeeater on
says who?
** I will see myself out **
SecureThruObscure on
We all take it for granted but it’s an interesting case study in risk mitigation.
Vaping is a less harmful alternative to tobacco. Between gum, patches, and general social outlook smoking has been reduced a LOT, and it’s seen as gross.
Introduce vaping and a lot of people who had trouble quitting managed to use it to cut back or shift to a different, less harmful, method of use.
But vapes don’t have the stigma of tobacco, so more people are using them – kids included.
LargeWeinerDog on
I had such a hard time quitting the vape. If I tried to quit, I’d end up smoking cigarettes again. I ended up using zyns despite not liking the idea so much. After I got away from the „hand to mouth“ addiction, I was able to drop nicotine in general pretty easy. I also have a 4 year old that helped with her unintentional shaming. Stay away from the vape guys. It might be better than cigarettes but in no way can it actually be good for you. My lungs feel better after quitting and I vaped for over a decade. If my lungs feel better, I can only assume that was because of the negative impact of vaping on them.
Kaffe-Mumriken on
While that’s concerning and should be looked at, thank GOD those are not all tobacco smokers.
NJtrafficcontributor on
Pulmonologist job security is at an all time high
TheTeflonDude on
Stopped vaping 2 weeks ago
A week later i started smoking again….
God damn nicotine
Banditlouise on
I think it is kind of scary. There is such little research in the 10 years or so there will be more information about health affects of vaping.
I am a marijauna user. But, I don’t smoke. I don’t know if that is any better. We will find out.
Weak_Definition_4321 on
Thank God I’m a smoker. Dodged a bullet there.
boomstickjonny on
Well yeah, a pack of smokes is $20+ where I live. For the same price you can get a nicotine vape that lasts 5x as long.
iamelloyello on
I was a smoker for 10 years. Started at 15 (I regret this every single day, I wish I had never started), and vaping got me off smoking. I am now 30.
Now I hit my vape like a chimney, way more than I ever smoked, but I have no cough, no more brown phlegm every day, I don’t get bronchitis 2 times a month, I don’t smell like shit routinely, and I am down to the lowest nicotine level possible prior to being at 0.
Are there health risks? I am sure there are. Has this stopped me from smoking cigarettes? Yes.
euclid0472 on
I smoked for 18 years and vaping was the only method that truly helped break the addiction. I have been cigarette and vape free for 8 years.
With that said vapes are marketed not as quit smoking aids but as the „healthy, fun and more convenient alternative“ to cigarettes. Big tobacco got me hooked with cigarettes and they are now getting people hooked with vape. More regulation needs to be around this issue.
Euphorix126 on
I quit vaping in September of 2021 and haven’t had a puff since.
If you are looking to quit, my best advice is to limit your purchases, not your use. The moment just before you decide to buy another vape is your opportunity to quit, amd you only have a few seconds. This is much easier to do than quitting with the nicotine immediately available because the part of your brain that craves the drug needs to also understand the exchange of currency for goods and services, which is somewhat more abstract. Godspeed.
Edit: I’ll also add that, after a few days, I began to intentionally change my relationship with the cravings. Instead of letting the craving consume all of my thoughts and wishing for it to go away, I began to reassociate the craving with a positive reminder of my progress. When I finished a big meal and wanted nothing more than a vape, I would remind myself that *I’ll only ever feel a craving so strong if I am abstaining.* They became reminders of my progress, and eventually began to reinforce my cessation. I also began verbally berating the vape store when I drove by on my way to work.
Lagoon___Music on
All of my friends who used to give me shit about smoking now vape like fucking chimneys. I quit smoking and by the end of it knew enough to not want to touch these. Cannabis vapes on the other hand…
Sub_Popper on
Singapore just banned all types of vaping with strict punishment but cigarettes are still legal. What a joke
Barbarake on
Let’s see. According to the numbers in the article – which the WHO admits are estimates – 100 million people are now vaping. Meanwhile 138 million people have stopped smoking.
I wonder if there’s a connection?
I’m one of those people. I smoked for 30 years. Now I vape and haven’t had a cigarette in 11 years. I feel much better, no longer smell of cigarettes, and my smoker’s cough disappeared a week after I started vaping.
And the article is completely wrong about blaming the ‚tobacco industry‘. They only started getting involved when vaping became popular. They bought up a bunch of companies that make small vapes and are busy trying to get everything else banned.
DriftMantis on
Over the last 10 years, rates of lung cancer have decreased by 23% for men and 11% for women. *Over* the last 5 years, rates have decreased by 14% for men and 8% for women. These are stats from the American lung association, I’m not sure about the UK. The most important thing is reducing smoking. These positive numbers exist because people are smoking less and vaping more. So despite the rates of vaping increasing, the trend year to year is still going down.
But I find all this heming and hawing weird because isn’t this exactly the point of vapes, to reduce bad health outcomes?
So why is there so much alarm about it over the last few years? Ok well people still consume nicotine and will continue to do so, isn’t having a safer product take over the market a net positive?
Its not that vaping is „safe“, its still bad for you and addicting. I haven’t smoked or vaped for over 10 years. However, also second hand vape fumes do not contain as much nicotine as smoke and dont have the tar and same carcinogen profile as smoke. [https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2024/jul/second-hand-vaping-exposure-very-low-compared-second-hand-smoking](https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2024/jul/second-hand-vaping-exposure-very-low-compared-second-hand-smoking)
The actual science is what it is. In my opinion, there needs to be more regulations about how these devices are constructed and what the air-path can be. A lot of the health risks especially talking about acute damage like popcorn lung etc can be mitigated by more standardized and safe vape construction. But in my opinion a future where people vape instead of smoke would be a net positive if its done correctly. The best outcome is that people do neither or do it very infrequently but human nature is what it is.
ALWanders on
I don’t know, you tell me who said it!
Realistic_Spite2775 on
Too expensive. I’ll stick to my one cup of instant coffee a day for my addictions.
trollfreak on
I quit cigs – picked up vapes – works for me – nicotine gives you an edge – if ya ban vapes guess we have to go back to smoking
pokipekipak on
Who: „go back to tar filled ciggarettes!!“
Gullible_Method_3780 on
Man shut up there’s an alarming number of pedophiles in office.
rahl422000 on
Kids have been targeted for decades for smoking, vapes are just the new thing, but vapes can and do help with quitting smoking, it did me. Banning vapes is the same as banning alcohol, it’s pointless and won’t work. Just stop selling tobacco for fucks sake…
spookydooky69420 on
Society is stressful. Stop putting so many demands on people and they’ll stop looking for coping mechanisms like smoking.
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Not shocking. The vape industry grew faster than the regulations around it. It’s basically Big Tobacco 2.0 hiding behind fruit flavors.
says who?
** I will see myself out **
We all take it for granted but it’s an interesting case study in risk mitigation.
Vaping is a less harmful alternative to tobacco. Between gum, patches, and general social outlook smoking has been reduced a LOT, and it’s seen as gross.
Introduce vaping and a lot of people who had trouble quitting managed to use it to cut back or shift to a different, less harmful, method of use.
But vapes don’t have the stigma of tobacco, so more people are using them – kids included.
I had such a hard time quitting the vape. If I tried to quit, I’d end up smoking cigarettes again. I ended up using zyns despite not liking the idea so much. After I got away from the „hand to mouth“ addiction, I was able to drop nicotine in general pretty easy. I also have a 4 year old that helped with her unintentional shaming. Stay away from the vape guys. It might be better than cigarettes but in no way can it actually be good for you. My lungs feel better after quitting and I vaped for over a decade. If my lungs feel better, I can only assume that was because of the negative impact of vaping on them.
While that’s concerning and should be looked at, thank GOD those are not all tobacco smokers.
Pulmonologist job security is at an all time high
Stopped vaping 2 weeks ago
A week later i started smoking again….
God damn nicotine
I think it is kind of scary. There is such little research in the 10 years or so there will be more information about health affects of vaping.
I am a marijauna user. But, I don’t smoke. I don’t know if that is any better. We will find out.
Thank God I’m a smoker. Dodged a bullet there.
Well yeah, a pack of smokes is $20+ where I live. For the same price you can get a nicotine vape that lasts 5x as long.
I was a smoker for 10 years. Started at 15 (I regret this every single day, I wish I had never started), and vaping got me off smoking. I am now 30.
Now I hit my vape like a chimney, way more than I ever smoked, but I have no cough, no more brown phlegm every day, I don’t get bronchitis 2 times a month, I don’t smell like shit routinely, and I am down to the lowest nicotine level possible prior to being at 0.
Are there health risks? I am sure there are. Has this stopped me from smoking cigarettes? Yes.
I smoked for 18 years and vaping was the only method that truly helped break the addiction. I have been cigarette and vape free for 8 years.
With that said vapes are marketed not as quit smoking aids but as the „healthy, fun and more convenient alternative“ to cigarettes. Big tobacco got me hooked with cigarettes and they are now getting people hooked with vape. More regulation needs to be around this issue.
I quit vaping in September of 2021 and haven’t had a puff since.
If you are looking to quit, my best advice is to limit your purchases, not your use. The moment just before you decide to buy another vape is your opportunity to quit, amd you only have a few seconds. This is much easier to do than quitting with the nicotine immediately available because the part of your brain that craves the drug needs to also understand the exchange of currency for goods and services, which is somewhat more abstract. Godspeed.
Edit: I’ll also add that, after a few days, I began to intentionally change my relationship with the cravings. Instead of letting the craving consume all of my thoughts and wishing for it to go away, I began to reassociate the craving with a positive reminder of my progress. When I finished a big meal and wanted nothing more than a vape, I would remind myself that *I’ll only ever feel a craving so strong if I am abstaining.* They became reminders of my progress, and eventually began to reinforce my cessation. I also began verbally berating the vape store when I drove by on my way to work.
All of my friends who used to give me shit about smoking now vape like fucking chimneys. I quit smoking and by the end of it knew enough to not want to touch these. Cannabis vapes on the other hand…
Singapore just banned all types of vaping with strict punishment but cigarettes are still legal. What a joke
Let’s see. According to the numbers in the article – which the WHO admits are estimates – 100 million people are now vaping. Meanwhile 138 million people have stopped smoking.
I wonder if there’s a connection?
I’m one of those people. I smoked for 30 years. Now I vape and haven’t had a cigarette in 11 years. I feel much better, no longer smell of cigarettes, and my smoker’s cough disappeared a week after I started vaping.
And the article is completely wrong about blaming the ‚tobacco industry‘. They only started getting involved when vaping became popular. They bought up a bunch of companies that make small vapes and are busy trying to get everything else banned.
Over the last 10 years, rates of lung cancer have decreased by 23% for men and 11% for women. *Over* the last 5 years, rates have decreased by 14% for men and 8% for women. These are stats from the American lung association, I’m not sure about the UK. The most important thing is reducing smoking. These positive numbers exist because people are smoking less and vaping more. So despite the rates of vaping increasing, the trend year to year is still going down.
But I find all this heming and hawing weird because isn’t this exactly the point of vapes, to reduce bad health outcomes?
So why is there so much alarm about it over the last few years? Ok well people still consume nicotine and will continue to do so, isn’t having a safer product take over the market a net positive?
Its not that vaping is „safe“, its still bad for you and addicting. I haven’t smoked or vaped for over 10 years. However, also second hand vape fumes do not contain as much nicotine as smoke and dont have the tar and same carcinogen profile as smoke. [https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2024/jul/second-hand-vaping-exposure-very-low-compared-second-hand-smoking](https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2024/jul/second-hand-vaping-exposure-very-low-compared-second-hand-smoking)
The actual science is what it is. In my opinion, there needs to be more regulations about how these devices are constructed and what the air-path can be. A lot of the health risks especially talking about acute damage like popcorn lung etc can be mitigated by more standardized and safe vape construction. But in my opinion a future where people vape instead of smoke would be a net positive if its done correctly. The best outcome is that people do neither or do it very infrequently but human nature is what it is.
I don’t know, you tell me who said it!
Too expensive. I’ll stick to my one cup of instant coffee a day for my addictions.
I quit cigs – picked up vapes – works for me – nicotine gives you an edge – if ya ban vapes guess we have to go back to smoking
Who: „go back to tar filled ciggarettes!!“
Man shut up there’s an alarming number of pedophiles in office.
Kids have been targeted for decades for smoking, vapes are just the new thing, but vapes can and do help with quitting smoking, it did me. Banning vapes is the same as banning alcohol, it’s pointless and won’t work. Just stop selling tobacco for fucks sake…
Society is stressful. Stop putting so many demands on people and they’ll stop looking for coping mechanisms like smoking.