>Fact Focus: Democrats did not shut down the government ~~to give health care to ‚illegal immigrants’~~ full stop
Trump and the Republicans did!
zubbs99 on
Of course not. But I’ve heard this lie stated by multiple senior GOP officials. And of course repeated ad nauseum by the Maga’s who take anything said by them as gospel.
yourlittlebirdie on
Republicans are completely incapable of governing.
MiddleAgedSponger on
They didn’t , but I wouldn’t care if they did. Having principles and standing up for those that need help would be nice for a change.
Pattihere on
Republicans believe that by repeating a statement can make it appear true. Republicans do not prioritize truth period.
a_little_hazel_nuts on
Republican politicians have really ramped up the lying. They constantly attack immigrants and transgender people like they are the reason the healthcare system is broken. Anybody with the ability to think, knows better, and that includes republican voters.
cugeltheclever2 on
Also: Democrats did not shut down the government at all. The Republicans did.
Ornery-Ticket834 on
Everyone knows that’s absolute bull shit. The stream of lies coming from the White House and Johnson is enough to make anyone vomit.
AcanthisittaNo6653 on
Republicans will hang themselves with the lies they tell.
QuantumLeaperTime on
It amazes me how all republicans and fox news can lie like this with zero repercussions.
HchrisH on
Republicans shut down the government to take healthcare away from Americans.
TintedApostle on
and they are not eating the cats and dogs..
People fall for the dumbest stuff.
hobbes_shot_second on
But it says they did on [every single government website](https://osc.gov/Services/Pages/HatchAct.aspx) and out-of-office message for all of the furloughed employees, so it must be true?
haxjunkie on
It is probable that Obamacare is a warmed over version of the plan Bob Dole put against Hillary.
We must fight, but someday it would be nice to fight for more than leftovers.
Historical_Bend_2629 on
So depressing this has to be repeated. The propaganda machine works. It is easy to swallow. Reptilian brain says yes! Reading and thinking takes time. It is work and humility, to question assumptions, and difficult to change your mind; assimilate new information.
My grandparents value hard work, but not when it comes to thinking abstractly. They have been pretty happy, successful people. Learning about science, philosophy, history isn’t prioritized in their value system, and they are perfectly happy to let Fox News take the reins of what they believe, politically and morally.
PDXftw on
Portland is also not a “war-ravaged city”, but the uneducated MAGA morons are so dumb
OldTempleHermit on
Trump: „*We need $120billion to get rid of illegal immigrants RIGHT NOW!*“
Maga: „*Ok here’s the money, but release the Epstein files please.*“
Trump: „*Democrats are shutting down the government, because illegal immigrants {x,y,z}!!!*“
Maga: „*Wait, what? And where are the Epstein files?*“
Trump: „*Sleepy Joe, and the libs! Obama! The WOKE radical leftists! OMG they’re taking over your country!!!*“
Maga: „*Hmmm..*“
Loo-Hoo-Zuh-Er on
However, Democrats did shutdown the government to give healthcare to ill legal immigrants. Credit to the Daily Show for that fun fact.
edit: I feel like people are thinking I’m a conservative trying to downplay the cruelty of taking away healthcare. Everyone should have healthcare. I approve of the shutdown to defend healthcare staying available for those to be affected. Fuck MAGA. Fuck Trump. I was simply appreciating how The Daily Show phrased it to support „ill legal“ immigrants.
Dnemesis123 on
And yet, the average conservative ate that shit up. I have yet to encounter a conservative who’s actually intelligent enough to out 2 and 2 together, instead of sucking up to whatever Daddy Trump says and calling all facts „propaganda machine.“
What a naive bunch.
Miserable-Surprise67 on
Facts don’t matter to MAGA any more than the laws do.
papibigdaddy on
These dumbasses call the like of Biden, Chuck Schumer, and Nancy Pelosi Marxists. They fullheartedly believe Haitians eat people’s pets and schoolchildren are pissing and shitting in litter boxes. They believe Boston, New York, Chicago, etc are all active war zones. They believe horse dewormer is the best defense against COVID. The GOP benefits immensely from corralling all the stupid people into one big coalition. It’s how Herschel Walker got nominated and how a guy who couldn’t name the three branches of government gets to represent Alabama in the Capitol. It’s how they can claim trans people are a threat and how they can get away with lying about Project 2025 and then immediately bringing the entire crew into the administration.
dallasdude on
Healthcare for undocumented?
Pssshhh. Trump just straight up gave Argentina **thirty billion dollars.**
SunshinesHouston on
Why do we have to see pictures of him? Just like show a pic of the white house he’s destroying. There is no uglier human.
Switchy_Goofball on
We are long past the point of facts or truth mattering anymore
fffan9391 on
If you repeat a lie often enough it becomes the truth.
Remote_Policy6615 on
Trump thinks we are all dumb like him.
I-Already-Told-You on
Duh
mcs5280 on
It doesn’t matter explaining the truth at this point. His supporters were already dosed with the newest ragebait by their daily fox news viewing. Once the dose is administered they won’t be convinced otherwise.
Equal-Veterinarian11 on
Never let facts get in the way of narrative. MAGA
nonaveris on
The people that need to listen, won’t.
Flat-Emergency4891 on
Yeah, they shut it down so Americans don’t LOSE coverage. That includes Republicans who are too stupid to realize that when it comes to healthcare, Democrats are fighting for them too. This is a rich man’s game.
Collarbones33 on
They need to start pounding this home every press chance they get.
groundhog5886 on
If they keep telling the lie long enough, it will become truth. Except for those of us that know better. Polling shows the republicans see their the bullshit, and support the democrats request in the funding bill. All those small business republicans seeing their health insurance cost doubling. They aint going for it.
markx15 on
Honestly all this sane washing will be studied for years to come. If I may offer a few changes:
“Majority Republican house caused a shutdown and are blatantly lying to the American people about why”
Fit-Significance-436 on
GOP messaging on this is just brain rot to their base
jlc1953 on
GOP has tried for years to get rid of the Affordable Care Act healthcare system. They couldnt do it through congress, and they failed over and over through the court system. So instead they will price it out of everyones reach. IT IS NOT ABOUT ILLEGAL ALIENS USING THE SYSTEM. It is everyone, legal or not. Getting rid of it is paramount and they don’t care if you die or not. They do not care. Of all the industrialized nations of the world, USA has the WORST health care system. WORST! It needs a single payer system, but it will never get one because of the billions of dollars that the so called capitalist system plies into super pacs of both parties to keep this gamed system afloat. They don’t care if you die either.
Sea-Barracuda4252 on
Yes, but release the Epstein Files, El Presidente.
harajukubarbie on
Republicans shut down the government because the President raped children and has dementia.
aka_r4mses on
Sounds kinda dumb when you say it out loud. Imagine this being your talking point.
TheDonnARK on
The issue is, the mental gymnastics academy of the modern world leads his supporters to fully ignore our disregard anyone who says anything contrary to the what he says.
If someone says their grocery bill is still going up, they think, „They are lying because he said prices are down.“
If someone says that using the military on American citizens in American cities is unconstitutional, they say, „He said he has a duty to protect and make America safe, so there is no constitutional issue.“
So this article, while neat, has no weight or bearing on changing anyone’s mind.
Lostsailor73 on
No one but idiots think that.
deadcatbounce22 on
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Heyniceguy13 on
Republicans shut it down to not swear in the democrat that would force the release of the Epstein files.
Zak_Rahman on
Even if this were true, so what?
Is giving medical aid to people a bad thing now?
It is a struggle to see trump and his masters as human. They were certainly born human. But their demented world views seems to strip them of their basic humanity.
McGuyver-112 on
They can factcheck whatever they want, they can reason with facts and logic, but that ship has sailed… if nobody is standing up to a 1500% discount on medicine, investments that’s half the GDP, a rhetoric so toxic it destroys everything in it’s path, etc. then this is the great reset, Armageddon, the end of times or what ever your want to call it. Democrats have lost, reason and common sense flushed down the drain, norms and morals are gone, etc. The once great nation has turned into another Afghanistan, fuck the idea of “Hopes and Dreams”, fuck the “Land of the Free”, fuck “Justice for all” and so forth. I hope the world will hold the US accountable, I hope they’ll intervene just like they did when the US dragged them into conflicts. That “Orange Clown” is what every religious storybook book is warning people to look out for and not to be temped by, and yet they all fell for it. He’s the snake that made Eva bite the apple, he’s a modern day Hitler and his voters will go: “Ich habbe das nicht gewust”, he and they are a waste of oxygen and the space they take up.
BraveMagician2989 on
Funny when asked democrats were shown the bill they had to admit that yes it gave healthcare care to illegals but yet democrats lie and say republicans lie . Remember this whatever democrats say republicans are doing is actually what they are doing!
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Lying is a requirement to be a Republican.
>Fact Focus: Democrats did not shut down the government ~~to give health care to ‚illegal immigrants’~~ full stop
Trump and the Republicans did!
Of course not. But I’ve heard this lie stated by multiple senior GOP officials. And of course repeated ad nauseum by the Maga’s who take anything said by them as gospel.
Republicans are completely incapable of governing.
They didn’t , but I wouldn’t care if they did. Having principles and standing up for those that need help would be nice for a change.
Republicans believe that by repeating a statement can make it appear true. Republicans do not prioritize truth period.
Republican politicians have really ramped up the lying. They constantly attack immigrants and transgender people like they are the reason the healthcare system is broken. Anybody with the ability to think, knows better, and that includes republican voters.
Also: Democrats did not shut down the government at all. The Republicans did.
Everyone knows that’s absolute bull shit. The stream of lies coming from the White House and Johnson is enough to make anyone vomit.
Republicans will hang themselves with the lies they tell.
It amazes me how all republicans and fox news can lie like this with zero repercussions.
Republicans shut down the government to take healthcare away from Americans.
and they are not eating the cats and dogs..
People fall for the dumbest stuff.
But it says they did on [every single government website](https://osc.gov/Services/Pages/HatchAct.aspx) and out-of-office message for all of the furloughed employees, so it must be true?
It is probable that Obamacare is a warmed over version of the plan Bob Dole put against Hillary.
We must fight, but someday it would be nice to fight for more than leftovers.
So depressing this has to be repeated. The propaganda machine works. It is easy to swallow. Reptilian brain says yes! Reading and thinking takes time. It is work and humility, to question assumptions, and difficult to change your mind; assimilate new information.
My grandparents value hard work, but not when it comes to thinking abstractly. They have been pretty happy, successful people. Learning about science, philosophy, history isn’t prioritized in their value system, and they are perfectly happy to let Fox News take the reins of what they believe, politically and morally.
Portland is also not a “war-ravaged city”, but the uneducated MAGA morons are so dumb
Trump: „*We need $120billion to get rid of illegal immigrants RIGHT NOW!*“
Maga: „*Ok here’s the money, but release the Epstein files please.*“
Trump: „*Democrats are shutting down the government, because illegal immigrants {x,y,z}!!!*“
Maga: „*Wait, what? And where are the Epstein files?*“
Trump: „*Sleepy Joe, and the libs! Obama! The WOKE radical leftists! OMG they’re taking over your country!!!*“
Maga: „*Hmmm..*“
However, Democrats did shutdown the government to give healthcare to ill legal immigrants. Credit to the Daily Show for that fun fact.
edit: I feel like people are thinking I’m a conservative trying to downplay the cruelty of taking away healthcare. Everyone should have healthcare. I approve of the shutdown to defend healthcare staying available for those to be affected. Fuck MAGA. Fuck Trump. I was simply appreciating how The Daily Show phrased it to support „ill legal“ immigrants.
And yet, the average conservative ate that shit up. I have yet to encounter a conservative who’s actually intelligent enough to out 2 and 2 together, instead of sucking up to whatever Daddy Trump says and calling all facts „propaganda machine.“
What a naive bunch.
Facts don’t matter to MAGA any more than the laws do.
These dumbasses call the like of Biden, Chuck Schumer, and Nancy Pelosi Marxists. They fullheartedly believe Haitians eat people’s pets and schoolchildren are pissing and shitting in litter boxes. They believe Boston, New York, Chicago, etc are all active war zones. They believe horse dewormer is the best defense against COVID. The GOP benefits immensely from corralling all the stupid people into one big coalition. It’s how Herschel Walker got nominated and how a guy who couldn’t name the three branches of government gets to represent Alabama in the Capitol. It’s how they can claim trans people are a threat and how they can get away with lying about Project 2025 and then immediately bringing the entire crew into the administration.
Healthcare for undocumented?
Pssshhh. Trump just straight up gave Argentina **thirty billion dollars.**
Why do we have to see pictures of him? Just like show a pic of the white house he’s destroying. There is no uglier human.
We are long past the point of facts or truth mattering anymore
If you repeat a lie often enough it becomes the truth.
Trump thinks we are all dumb like him.
Duh
It doesn’t matter explaining the truth at this point. His supporters were already dosed with the newest ragebait by their daily fox news viewing. Once the dose is administered they won’t be convinced otherwise.
Never let facts get in the way of narrative. MAGA
The people that need to listen, won’t.
Yeah, they shut it down so Americans don’t LOSE coverage. That includes Republicans who are too stupid to realize that when it comes to healthcare, Democrats are fighting for them too. This is a rich man’s game.
They need to start pounding this home every press chance they get.
If they keep telling the lie long enough, it will become truth. Except for those of us that know better. Polling shows the republicans see their the bullshit, and support the democrats request in the funding bill. All those small business republicans seeing their health insurance cost doubling. They aint going for it.
Honestly all this sane washing will be studied for years to come. If I may offer a few changes:
“Majority Republican house caused a shutdown and are blatantly lying to the American people about why”
GOP messaging on this is just brain rot to their base
GOP has tried for years to get rid of the Affordable Care Act healthcare system. They couldnt do it through congress, and they failed over and over through the court system. So instead they will price it out of everyones reach. IT IS NOT ABOUT ILLEGAL ALIENS USING THE SYSTEM. It is everyone, legal or not. Getting rid of it is paramount and they don’t care if you die or not. They do not care. Of all the industrialized nations of the world, USA has the WORST health care system. WORST! It needs a single payer system, but it will never get one because of the billions of dollars that the so called capitalist system plies into super pacs of both parties to keep this gamed system afloat. They don’t care if you die either.
Yes, but release the Epstein Files, El Presidente.
Republicans shut down the government because the President raped children and has dementia.
Sounds kinda dumb when you say it out loud. Imagine this being your talking point.
The issue is, the mental gymnastics academy of the modern world leads his supporters to fully ignore our disregard anyone who says anything contrary to the what he says.
If someone says their grocery bill is still going up, they think, „They are lying because he said prices are down.“
If someone says that using the military on American citizens in American cities is unconstitutional, they say, „He said he has a duty to protect and make America safe, so there is no constitutional issue.“
So this article, while neat, has no weight or bearing on changing anyone’s mind.
No one but idiots think that.
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Republicans shut it down to not swear in the democrat that would force the release of the Epstein files.
Even if this were true, so what?
Is giving medical aid to people a bad thing now?
It is a struggle to see trump and his masters as human. They were certainly born human. But their demented world views seems to strip them of their basic humanity.
They can factcheck whatever they want, they can reason with facts and logic, but that ship has sailed… if nobody is standing up to a 1500% discount on medicine, investments that’s half the GDP, a rhetoric so toxic it destroys everything in it’s path, etc. then this is the great reset, Armageddon, the end of times or what ever your want to call it. Democrats have lost, reason and common sense flushed down the drain, norms and morals are gone, etc. The once great nation has turned into another Afghanistan, fuck the idea of “Hopes and Dreams”, fuck the “Land of the Free”, fuck “Justice for all” and so forth. I hope the world will hold the US accountable, I hope they’ll intervene just like they did when the US dragged them into conflicts. That “Orange Clown” is what every religious storybook book is warning people to look out for and not to be temped by, and yet they all fell for it. He’s the snake that made Eva bite the apple, he’s a modern day Hitler and his voters will go: “Ich habbe das nicht gewust”, he and they are a waste of oxygen and the space they take up.
Funny when asked democrats were shown the bill they had to admit that yes it gave healthcare care to illegals but yet democrats lie and say republicans lie . Remember this whatever democrats say republicans are doing is actually what they are doing!