“Talent Agents Circle AI Actress Tilly Norwood As Studios Quietly Embrace AI Technology,” Deadline reported.
But real actors and directors were quick to point out this was no “actress” at all.
Norwood is the creation of AI “talent” studio Xicoia, headed up by Eline Van Der Velden from the Particle6 AI production studio.
Deadline reported that Van Der Velden said at the recent Zurich Summit that the studio was talking to talent agents who had expressed interest in signing Norwood.
“Shame on these people,” actor Mara Wilson (“Mrs. Doubtfire,” “Matilda”) said on Instagram. “They have stolen the faces of hundreds of young women to make this AI ‘actress.’ They’re not creators. They’re identity thieves.”
Oscar-nominated actor Abigail Breslin (“Little Miss Sunshine,” “Zombieland”) made an appeal to fellow actors.
“I beg every actor I know to plz boycott this,” she said, sharing the Deadline story.
grapefield on
We’ll see how this develops along with robot camera operators and catering etc. I think we’re in for a new Industrial Revolution uprising soon.
Alarming_Eye_2197 on
Actors, are expensive and egotistic.
AI will do it much better and cheaper.
Just a fact of our new lives with AI.
rosneft_perot on
This is going to end up being a whole lot of nothing. Anyone can take those 4 images and make their own Tilly Norwood. Unless they are using one of the AI puppeteering technologies with an actual flesh and blood human actress, the acting is going to suck because the videos that they produced so far are using Google Veo 3, which has reality TV level acting.
So what do they have?
Novus20 on
Studios don’t give two shits about the craft they just want to make money, it’s sad that humanity is regressing and just trying to squeeze out more and more money regardless of how it can hurt others, the environment or progress
keiiith47 on
Copied from a different thread: Aren’t things generated by Ai not copyrightable? Like they might have copyright on the name, but nothing stops actors, or even people, to generate stuff of her like doing cocaine or kicking dogs.
Why would any studio risk such a liability? Imagine you „hire her“ for a beauty product, and then people see the person representing your brand kicking dogs online. Isn’t it just a bad idea to „hire her“??
sir_racho on
Yup it really is. Now if they had made an animated character instead… Roger Rabbit… Jessica Rabbit… everyone would be on board I suspect.
DisinterestedHandjob on
Where were all these people when all the old practical FX guys were being shut out by CGI?! Where, I ask you, where?!
probability_of_meme on
The whole idea of an AI personality that would be re-used in film is so ridiculous. Wouldn’t we want to use new people for every film for the most realism? But then you remember oh yeah, we ticket-buying movie watchers prefer actors we’ve already seen many times for some silly reason…
croninsiglos on
There are still teams of people involved to make everything right. It’s merely a shift of one class of jobs to another. It can also be enabling for smaller teams meaning a greater quantity of higher quality entertainment for everyone. Many of these actors and actresses complaining can’t hold a candle to old school stage actors but they still want to talk about destroying the craft.
Obany3 on
Of all the industries I don’t care if they are automated out of business acting and influencer have to be top of the list.
Psittacula2 on
Blue screen got rid of locations and AI got rid of actors…
The theatre beckons!
On a positive note, if an individual at home can create a full film, direct it, shoot it, act it, script it using Tech it could lead to some very creative and fresh ideas and “takes” on films.
vafrow on
I’ve seen this story being presented like the „AI actress“ will be there to replace the high salary lead actresses that command millions of dollars. But that’s a ridiculous take.
Actors and actresses are paid a lot of money because they have goodwill with audiences and there presence in a film is what motivates many people to buy a ticket. If a studio was eager to avoid that salary cost, they could probably easier just cast any of the countless young, attractive working actresses across LA that’ll gladly work at scale. But they don’t, because they need a draw.
We see that effect in animation. Most animated films would be better served quality wise with working voice actors in key roles. But studios throw money at celebrities to do voices because it sells the movie.
Its also very unclear to me how an AI actress is supposed to be integrated into a film production. Is it just CGI work being done in post? Are you then relying on the other actors to work against a stand in? That’s a process we already have with CGI characters. It’s not cheap, and often yields worse performances all around.
This whole story seems like its just a gimmick by an AI company to bring publicity to their latest software update.
Aydrianic on
Watching all of the drama surrounding this is just so entertaining. I’m kinda indifferent about the subject itself, I’m not one of those AI doom and gloomers, but the reactions to it are pure cinema.
PckMan on
I mean it’s been coming for a while now. We’ve been normalising bringing back dead actors with digi doubles for 10 years now. This is basically the next step of that.
ordinary-thelemist on
And of course, those speaking against AI for **their** craft have never used AI when it comes to translating something or revewing a meeting minutes ?
It’s always more painful when it comes for you isn’t it ?
2ManyCatsNever2Many on
This is inevitable. Just ask the painters who bemoaned the film camera. With the accessibility of AI video we will see an explosion of small production companies featuring clips, advertisements, shows, and even full movies using untraditional „actors“. This will be for better and worse the same way we have podcasts by the thousands.
Hollywood’s stanglehold on such media is in its final hour.
stutter406 on
If anyone’s job should be eliminated with ai, itis actors
Ok_Wrap_214 on
If only the uproar was nearly as loud when AI was stealing other people’s art and music
No, it’s *now* that the millionaires salaries are at stake that it’s important
Orwells_Roses on
AI causes me to lose interest in things. As soon as I start to think it may have been involved I instantly get turned off and want to tune out. I think a lot of people instinctively notice the Uncanny Valley aspect to things, but almost worse than that is the lingering suspicion that everything you see isn’t real.
The post reality era has made it more difficult to enjoy movies, tv, and even written articles and books, because so much of it is just AI slop.
Robert_Grave on
So these are the exact same actors and directors who had 0 issue replacing as much practical effects with green screens and 3d movie effects as possible? But now they’re mad they’re next on the chopping block?
stupide- on
I believe with AI all kind of people could learn how to and create their own movie, the same way internet give all kind of people a chance to learn music or drawing and peoples actually lives on this.
It’s a shame most people got an elitist mindset while being not an elite, closing doors to people while thinking „good“, thinking they are better while they aren’t
That’s how colonization has been set-up. I can easily say most people raging about redistributions of roles are arrogant prick unable to let people grow wihtout stomping on them.
What a cowardly world
Alex_Demote on
One step closer to finally witnessing the rise of my all time favorite actor, Calculon
Living_Razzmatazz_93 on
You get paid obscene amounts of money to play pretend.
Your behaviour off-screen is questionable, at best.
Not to mention the often-laughable political takes you spew out, unprompted.
Calm down…
BowlEducational6722 on
We wanted AI to do our taxes, schedule our appointments and do our busy work so we could create art and music.
Instead we got AI to create our art and music so we could do more busy work.
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“Talent Agents Circle AI Actress Tilly Norwood As Studios Quietly Embrace AI Technology,” Deadline reported.
But real actors and directors were quick to point out this was no “actress” at all.
Norwood is the creation of AI “talent” studio Xicoia, headed up by Eline Van Der Velden from the Particle6 AI production studio.
Deadline reported that Van Der Velden said at the recent Zurich Summit that the studio was talking to talent agents who had expressed interest in signing Norwood.
“Shame on these people,” actor Mara Wilson (“Mrs. Doubtfire,” “Matilda”) said on Instagram. “They have stolen the faces of hundreds of young women to make this AI ‘actress.’ They’re not creators. They’re identity thieves.”
Oscar-nominated actor Abigail Breslin (“Little Miss Sunshine,” “Zombieland”) made an appeal to fellow actors.
“I beg every actor I know to plz boycott this,” she said, sharing the Deadline story.
We’ll see how this develops along with robot camera operators and catering etc. I think we’re in for a new Industrial Revolution uprising soon.
Actors, are expensive and egotistic.
AI will do it much better and cheaper.
Just a fact of our new lives with AI.
This is going to end up being a whole lot of nothing. Anyone can take those 4 images and make their own Tilly Norwood. Unless they are using one of the AI puppeteering technologies with an actual flesh and blood human actress, the acting is going to suck because the videos that they produced so far are using Google Veo 3, which has reality TV level acting.
So what do they have?
Studios don’t give two shits about the craft they just want to make money, it’s sad that humanity is regressing and just trying to squeeze out more and more money regardless of how it can hurt others, the environment or progress
Copied from a different thread: Aren’t things generated by Ai not copyrightable? Like they might have copyright on the name, but nothing stops actors, or even people, to generate stuff of her like doing cocaine or kicking dogs.
Why would any studio risk such a liability? Imagine you „hire her“ for a beauty product, and then people see the person representing your brand kicking dogs online. Isn’t it just a bad idea to „hire her“??
Yup it really is. Now if they had made an animated character instead… Roger Rabbit… Jessica Rabbit… everyone would be on board I suspect.
Where were all these people when all the old practical FX guys were being shut out by CGI?! Where, I ask you, where?!
The whole idea of an AI personality that would be re-used in film is so ridiculous. Wouldn’t we want to use new people for every film for the most realism? But then you remember oh yeah, we ticket-buying movie watchers prefer actors we’ve already seen many times for some silly reason…
There are still teams of people involved to make everything right. It’s merely a shift of one class of jobs to another. It can also be enabling for smaller teams meaning a greater quantity of higher quality entertainment for everyone. Many of these actors and actresses complaining can’t hold a candle to old school stage actors but they still want to talk about destroying the craft.
Of all the industries I don’t care if they are automated out of business acting and influencer have to be top of the list.
Blue screen got rid of locations and AI got rid of actors…
The theatre beckons!
On a positive note, if an individual at home can create a full film, direct it, shoot it, act it, script it using Tech it could lead to some very creative and fresh ideas and “takes” on films.
I’ve seen this story being presented like the „AI actress“ will be there to replace the high salary lead actresses that command millions of dollars. But that’s a ridiculous take.
Actors and actresses are paid a lot of money because they have goodwill with audiences and there presence in a film is what motivates many people to buy a ticket. If a studio was eager to avoid that salary cost, they could probably easier just cast any of the countless young, attractive working actresses across LA that’ll gladly work at scale. But they don’t, because they need a draw.
We see that effect in animation. Most animated films would be better served quality wise with working voice actors in key roles. But studios throw money at celebrities to do voices because it sells the movie.
Its also very unclear to me how an AI actress is supposed to be integrated into a film production. Is it just CGI work being done in post? Are you then relying on the other actors to work against a stand in? That’s a process we already have with CGI characters. It’s not cheap, and often yields worse performances all around.
This whole story seems like its just a gimmick by an AI company to bring publicity to their latest software update.
Watching all of the drama surrounding this is just so entertaining. I’m kinda indifferent about the subject itself, I’m not one of those AI doom and gloomers, but the reactions to it are pure cinema.
I mean it’s been coming for a while now. We’ve been normalising bringing back dead actors with digi doubles for 10 years now. This is basically the next step of that.
And of course, those speaking against AI for **their** craft have never used AI when it comes to translating something or revewing a meeting minutes ?
It’s always more painful when it comes for you isn’t it ?
This is inevitable. Just ask the painters who bemoaned the film camera. With the accessibility of AI video we will see an explosion of small production companies featuring clips, advertisements, shows, and even full movies using untraditional „actors“. This will be for better and worse the same way we have podcasts by the thousands.
Hollywood’s stanglehold on such media is in its final hour.
If anyone’s job should be eliminated with ai, itis actors
If only the uproar was nearly as loud when AI was stealing other people’s art and music
No, it’s *now* that the millionaires salaries are at stake that it’s important
AI causes me to lose interest in things. As soon as I start to think it may have been involved I instantly get turned off and want to tune out. I think a lot of people instinctively notice the Uncanny Valley aspect to things, but almost worse than that is the lingering suspicion that everything you see isn’t real.
The post reality era has made it more difficult to enjoy movies, tv, and even written articles and books, because so much of it is just AI slop.
So these are the exact same actors and directors who had 0 issue replacing as much practical effects with green screens and 3d movie effects as possible? But now they’re mad they’re next on the chopping block?
I believe with AI all kind of people could learn how to and create their own movie, the same way internet give all kind of people a chance to learn music or drawing and peoples actually lives on this.
It’s a shame most people got an elitist mindset while being not an elite, closing doors to people while thinking „good“, thinking they are better while they aren’t
That’s how colonization has been set-up. I can easily say most people raging about redistributions of roles are arrogant prick unable to let people grow wihtout stomping on them.
What a cowardly world
One step closer to finally witnessing the rise of my all time favorite actor, Calculon
You get paid obscene amounts of money to play pretend.
Your behaviour off-screen is questionable, at best.
Not to mention the often-laughable political takes you spew out, unprompted.
Calm down…
We wanted AI to do our taxes, schedule our appointments and do our busy work so we could create art and music.
Instead we got AI to create our art and music so we could do more busy work.