Labour as created Reform, they keep talking about boats and immigrants. Talk about the NHS, the economy, public transport. Focus on making our lives better instead of legitimising Farage
Adm_Shelby2 on
How exactly? By implementing policies that are popular with Reform voters? Not sure you’d be too keen on that Zack
psrandom on
Labour is diet Reform right now. Why would anyone vote for Labour?
Toastlove on
Reform is just a rebranded UKIP and that’s been around a lot longer than Starmer has been in Office.
Maybe Zack could help challenge Reform by offering a sensible Green party manifesto instead of the unworkable and sometimes insane shit they’ve got in there.
He’s going to be the next Corbyn, standing by a pile of ideologically pure ideas that he will never have to put into practice and see fail, while criticising everyone else actually trying to run the country.
Objective_Ticket on
Not sure how but pretty much everyone in media and politics is complicit in the rise of UKIP and now reform.
Christ, I can even remember Nick Griffin and possibly a your SYL being interviewed on the BBC as they’d ‘heroically’ ( my sarcasm ) split from the BNP or similar…
Veritanium on
Like what? I’m damn sure he doesn’t mean „address their voters‘ concerns“. Probably just „call them all racist harder“.
Thandoscovia on
Yes, I hate it when others have the wrong political beliefs. Our leaders should be stamping that out
ash_ninetyone on
The problem is figuring out how?
Reform voters are so lost in that mindset they won’t believe shit Labour say.
Labour could be doing a lot better than pushing ahead with unpopular or bad legislation like Digital IDs and the Online Safety Act but even then, everything they do, even good legislation like the Hillsborough Law, is torn apart or treated with cynicism by them.
That or it gets ignored and buried under „here’s something shit some Labour guy did“
Reform politicians don’t get the same level of scrutiny on certain news outlets (like GB News) or on their social media commentators.
The Unite the Kingdom rally for instance, Labour likened it to a hijacking of our flags and of patriotism by the right wing, some of whom are far right and were there for a migrant protest, regardless of how the protesters want to frame it. GB News did not scrutinise Elon Musk being on telescreen talking about the government being overthrown, or about Eric Zammour talking about the Great Replacement shit, or the leaders having criminal (or civil court) convictions, or how they kicked a victim or grooming off the stage for calling out that the perpetrators were British and not Muslim. They’re weren’t there to „protect women“ they were there for anti-immigrant fervour.
And yet anyone criticising that got the usual lables of elitists, leftists, etc, ignoring „legitimate concerns“ or painting every single person as far-right.
I get Labour are in government, I get the government get more eyes on them than other parties. But that will matter when we get to the next election and then put up with four years of shit because the nearest challengers got an easy ride.
They cannot win.
ash_ninetyone on
The problem is figuring out how?
Reform voters are so lost in that mindset they won’t believe shit Labour say.
Labour could be doing a lot better than pushing ahead with unpopular or bad legislation like Digital IDs and the Online Safety Act but even then, everything they do, even good legislation like the Hillsborough Law, is torn apart or treated with cynicism by them.
That or it gets ignored and buried under „here’s something shit some Labour guy did“
Reform politicians don’t get the same level of scrutiny on certain news outlets (like GB News) or on their social media commentators.
The Unite the Kingdom rally for instance, Labour likened it to a hijacking of our flags and of patriotism by the right wing, some of whom are far right and were there for a migrant protest, regardless of how the protesters want to frame it. GB News did not scrutinise Elon Musk being on telescreen talking about the government being overthrown, or about Eric Zammour talking about the Great Replacement shit, or the leaders having criminal (or civil court) convictions, or how they kicked a victim or grooming off the stage for calling out that the perpetrators were British and not Muslim. They’re weren’t there to „protect women“ they were there for anti-immigrant fervour.
And yet anyone criticising that got the usual lables of elitists, leftists, etc, ignoring „legitimate concerns“ or painting every single person as far-right.
I get Labour are in government, I get the government get more eyes on them than other parties. But that will matter when we get to the next election and then put up with four years of shit because the nearest challengers got an easy ride.
They cannot win.
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Labour as created Reform, they keep talking about boats and immigrants. Talk about the NHS, the economy, public transport. Focus on making our lives better instead of legitimising Farage
How exactly? By implementing policies that are popular with Reform voters? Not sure you’d be too keen on that Zack
Labour is diet Reform right now. Why would anyone vote for Labour?
Reform is just a rebranded UKIP and that’s been around a lot longer than Starmer has been in Office.
Maybe Zack could help challenge Reform by offering a sensible Green party manifesto instead of the unworkable and sometimes insane shit they’ve got in there.
He’s going to be the next Corbyn, standing by a pile of ideologically pure ideas that he will never have to put into practice and see fail, while criticising everyone else actually trying to run the country.
Not sure how but pretty much everyone in media and politics is complicit in the rise of UKIP and now reform.
Christ, I can even remember Nick Griffin and possibly a your SYL being interviewed on the BBC as they’d ‘heroically’ ( my sarcasm ) split from the BNP or similar…
Like what? I’m damn sure he doesn’t mean „address their voters‘ concerns“. Probably just „call them all racist harder“.
Yes, I hate it when others have the wrong political beliefs. Our leaders should be stamping that out
The problem is figuring out how?
Reform voters are so lost in that mindset they won’t believe shit Labour say.
Labour could be doing a lot better than pushing ahead with unpopular or bad legislation like Digital IDs and the Online Safety Act but even then, everything they do, even good legislation like the Hillsborough Law, is torn apart or treated with cynicism by them.
That or it gets ignored and buried under „here’s something shit some Labour guy did“
Reform politicians don’t get the same level of scrutiny on certain news outlets (like GB News) or on their social media commentators.
The Unite the Kingdom rally for instance, Labour likened it to a hijacking of our flags and of patriotism by the right wing, some of whom are far right and were there for a migrant protest, regardless of how the protesters want to frame it. GB News did not scrutinise Elon Musk being on telescreen talking about the government being overthrown, or about Eric Zammour talking about the Great Replacement shit, or the leaders having criminal (or civil court) convictions, or how they kicked a victim or grooming off the stage for calling out that the perpetrators were British and not Muslim. They’re weren’t there to „protect women“ they were there for anti-immigrant fervour.
And yet anyone criticising that got the usual lables of elitists, leftists, etc, ignoring „legitimate concerns“ or painting every single person as far-right.
I get Labour are in government, I get the government get more eyes on them than other parties. But that will matter when we get to the next election and then put up with four years of shit because the nearest challengers got an easy ride.
They cannot win.
The problem is figuring out how?
Reform voters are so lost in that mindset they won’t believe shit Labour say.
Labour could be doing a lot better than pushing ahead with unpopular or bad legislation like Digital IDs and the Online Safety Act but even then, everything they do, even good legislation like the Hillsborough Law, is torn apart or treated with cynicism by them.
That or it gets ignored and buried under „here’s something shit some Labour guy did“
Reform politicians don’t get the same level of scrutiny on certain news outlets (like GB News) or on their social media commentators.
The Unite the Kingdom rally for instance, Labour likened it to a hijacking of our flags and of patriotism by the right wing, some of whom are far right and were there for a migrant protest, regardless of how the protesters want to frame it. GB News did not scrutinise Elon Musk being on telescreen talking about the government being overthrown, or about Eric Zammour talking about the Great Replacement shit, or the leaders having criminal (or civil court) convictions, or how they kicked a victim or grooming off the stage for calling out that the perpetrators were British and not Muslim. They’re weren’t there to „protect women“ they were there for anti-immigrant fervour.
And yet anyone criticising that got the usual lables of elitists, leftists, etc, ignoring „legitimate concerns“ or painting every single person as far-right.
I get Labour are in government, I get the government get more eyes on them than other parties. But that will matter when we get to the next election and then put up with four years of shit because the nearest challengers got an easy ride.
They cannot win.