„If you don’t do this thing to make me stronger, then I will let Phil over there destroy both of us, and trust me, we don’t want that.“
Aware_Leading3791 on
„move your chip production so we wont even need to protect you“
No_Menu_6533 on
Then have entire workforce arrested by ICE.
Adventurous-Jump-370 on
LOL, give up the only card you have to get some protection from America for an empty promise from a President that is know to back out of any deal they make if they perceive their interests better served else where.
Larkalis on
Sigh… They think it’s so easy like moving a car from one parking spot to the next?
UltimateGlimpse on
Right, I’m sure it’s a winning strategy for them to export the strategic industry that incentivizes basically all nations to prevent China from taking them over. “We’re working really hard to align with this goal,” I’m sure.
charcus42 on
The good news is, extortion is always trustworthy and never keeps happening
justabill71 on
Lutnick is such a scumbag, and also a moron.
AlarmedAd5034 on
I’m calling this a bullshit tactic. All talk no teeth.
Harry_Mud on
The thing is, if we don’t protect them and China moves in, they can tell the US to go fuck themselves and the cost for the same chips could skyrocket……. tRump and his threats are just stupid. Blackmail is not the way…………..
SiWeyNoWay on
So we have Bessent’s texts w someone, worried about having overplayed our hand w china and losing the soybean sales and now this
phono_trigger on
44% of US logic chips come from Taiwan. And 24% of memory chips.
I highly doubt the US wants to become dependent on buying chips from China.
ThinkOutTheBox on
They’re already hiring Taiwanese workers to build sites in US
shogi_x on
Pretty sure this is the same offer they made Ukraine and look how that played out.
Sil369 on
release the Trumpstein files
Concentrateman on
Extortion. Purely transactional. I bet the Taiwanese have a pretty good idea how the Ukranians feel now. Disposable „allies.“
Corka on
Uhh, so he says that 50% of the chip production should be moved to the US because it would be bad if China took Taiwan and the US lost access. But then apparently he’s trying to argue that Taiwan should totally move to make that happen so that the US will somehow be MORE inclined to defend Taiwan if the US is insulated from the damage of failing to do so? Did I get that right?
Master negotiator right here.
Ecstatic-Detail-8382 on
Biggest scam/con/criminal in US history. A true piece of human trash.
Tadpoleonicwars on
Lose protection = ceding the 21st century to China
Flyingworld123 on
Lutnick is a lunatic.
Over_Technology_1707 on
I dont think Trump or anyone in his administration (or at least the majority of them) have an interest in fighting China over Taiwan. I think they’ve looked at the paper stats and what we’d probably end up losing and have decided it is better to just cede the west Pacific and perhaps even Europe (despite the recent Tomohawk talk and how overall the view on Ukraines chances of victory have increased because of their drone campaign, I think the Russia/China alliance goes deeper than Trump is willing to go for Ukraine) for an increased, or to put it simply permanent occupation of various countries in the Americas.
Multipolar world and all that. There is a lot of stuff muddying the water right now, but I can’t shake the feeling out of my mind that that is how it will end up-with Russia and China just being relentless enough over their claims to the point Trump goes „ah well, I guess they can have that if I can have Mexico and Venezuela“.
wwhisler on
It would take a decade to build the facilities and either buy new equipment or transfer equipment from Taiwan and reinstall it to support 50% of their capacity. This is just Trump acting like he knows what he’s talking about.
Nomo-Names on
straight up extortion
CarneDelGato on
…chip production is their protection?
WaffleHouseGladiator on
America does NOT have the upper hand here. The United States isn’t going to leave Taiwan undefended. That would be a global economic catastrophe. The US economy and military depend on Taiwan’s chips, as does every other major country in the world. Not only that, but moving 50% of Taiwan’s chip manufacturing halfway around the world is a near impossibility. This administration is either grossly incompetent, certifiably insane, or both.
nomad2284 on
Nice island ya has here. Be a shame if sumptin happened to it.
nelly2929 on
My God the USA is a disgusting country
first_lvr on
How the fuck are they gonna move production ??? Taiwan will probably agree terms and conditions and after a while send the Americans to fuck off
How the hell is this supposed to be great again huh
ShrimpCrackers on
the capacity of the Arizona plants is less than 1/200th of TSMC Taiwan’s total capacity. and Arizona plant requires thousands of Taiwanese to operate and supply chains are from Taiwan. If TSMC were to move total capacity over, it would require a few million Taiwanese and a hundred corporations. They would take over Phoenix, is Lutnick ready for that kind of demographics change?
barktwiggs on
When the Taiwanese engineers come here to build the factories ICE has the opportunity to do the most hilarious thing…
mr_greedee on
there he goes, wrecking ALL our alliances. i hate this man so much.
Antique-Ad1812 on
China 100% will try to take Taiwan while Trump is in office
Traditional_Many7988 on
Right, remove the only reason that the US will protect Taiwan for.
gearstars on
Temu Vader be like „I am altering the deal. Pray I don’t alter it further“
Atlanta_Mane on
Russia: Ukraine doesn’t need nuclear weapons. We promise to never harm them.
Falconflyer75 on
Plot twist Taiwan voluntarily sides with China to spite Trump
My_Name_Is_Steven on
Wasn’t the CHIP act supposed to bring production to the US?
Septos999 on
I can see it now, Taiwanese people go to America to setup new factory. All get arrested by ICE.
scobot on
Jesus. He is selling every bit of soft power, hard power, civic infrastructure, every system of self-government we have built over the last hundred years, selling it all off for firewood. It’s like watching a kid borrow the family car and use it to make money by letting people hit it with a sledgehammer for five dollars a swing. I have said “Jesus” more in the last nine months than in the previous nine years. Jesus.
louisa1925 on
Time to ban chip sales to America in response. Protect Thaiwan or no chips, donald.
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What a racket
So it is just like the mob, then?
„If you don’t do this thing to make me stronger, then I will let Phil over there destroy both of us, and trust me, we don’t want that.“
„move your chip production so we wont even need to protect you“
Then have entire workforce arrested by ICE.
LOL, give up the only card you have to get some protection from America for an empty promise from a President that is know to back out of any deal they make if they perceive their interests better served else where.
Sigh… They think it’s so easy like moving a car from one parking spot to the next?
Right, I’m sure it’s a winning strategy for them to export the strategic industry that incentivizes basically all nations to prevent China from taking them over. “We’re working really hard to align with this goal,” I’m sure.
The good news is, extortion is always trustworthy and never keeps happening
Lutnick is such a scumbag, and also a moron.
I’m calling this a bullshit tactic. All talk no teeth.
The thing is, if we don’t protect them and China moves in, they can tell the US to go fuck themselves and the cost for the same chips could skyrocket……. tRump and his threats are just stupid. Blackmail is not the way…………..
So we have Bessent’s texts w someone, worried about having overplayed our hand w china and losing the soybean sales and now this
44% of US logic chips come from Taiwan. And 24% of memory chips.
I highly doubt the US wants to become dependent on buying chips from China.
They’re already hiring Taiwanese workers to build sites in US
Pretty sure this is the same offer they made Ukraine and look how that played out.
release the Trumpstein files
Extortion. Purely transactional. I bet the Taiwanese have a pretty good idea how the Ukranians feel now. Disposable „allies.“
Uhh, so he says that 50% of the chip production should be moved to the US because it would be bad if China took Taiwan and the US lost access. But then apparently he’s trying to argue that Taiwan should totally move to make that happen so that the US will somehow be MORE inclined to defend Taiwan if the US is insulated from the damage of failing to do so? Did I get that right?
Master negotiator right here.
Biggest scam/con/criminal in US history. A true piece of human trash.
Lose protection = ceding the 21st century to China
Lutnick is a lunatic.
I dont think Trump or anyone in his administration (or at least the majority of them) have an interest in fighting China over Taiwan. I think they’ve looked at the paper stats and what we’d probably end up losing and have decided it is better to just cede the west Pacific and perhaps even Europe (despite the recent Tomohawk talk and how overall the view on Ukraines chances of victory have increased because of their drone campaign, I think the Russia/China alliance goes deeper than Trump is willing to go for Ukraine) for an increased, or to put it simply permanent occupation of various countries in the Americas.
Multipolar world and all that. There is a lot of stuff muddying the water right now, but I can’t shake the feeling out of my mind that that is how it will end up-with Russia and China just being relentless enough over their claims to the point Trump goes „ah well, I guess they can have that if I can have Mexico and Venezuela“.
It would take a decade to build the facilities and either buy new equipment or transfer equipment from Taiwan and reinstall it to support 50% of their capacity. This is just Trump acting like he knows what he’s talking about.
straight up extortion
…chip production is their protection?
America does NOT have the upper hand here. The United States isn’t going to leave Taiwan undefended. That would be a global economic catastrophe. The US economy and military depend on Taiwan’s chips, as does every other major country in the world. Not only that, but moving 50% of Taiwan’s chip manufacturing halfway around the world is a near impossibility. This administration is either grossly incompetent, certifiably insane, or both.
Nice island ya has here. Be a shame if sumptin happened to it.
My God the USA is a disgusting country
How the fuck are they gonna move production ??? Taiwan will probably agree terms and conditions and after a while send the Americans to fuck off
How the hell is this supposed to be great again huh
the capacity of the Arizona plants is less than 1/200th of TSMC Taiwan’s total capacity. and Arizona plant requires thousands of Taiwanese to operate and supply chains are from Taiwan. If TSMC were to move total capacity over, it would require a few million Taiwanese and a hundred corporations. They would take over Phoenix, is Lutnick ready for that kind of demographics change?
When the Taiwanese engineers come here to build the factories ICE has the opportunity to do the most hilarious thing…
there he goes, wrecking ALL our alliances. i hate this man so much.
China 100% will try to take Taiwan while Trump is in office
Right, remove the only reason that the US will protect Taiwan for.
Temu Vader be like „I am altering the deal. Pray I don’t alter it further“
Russia: Ukraine doesn’t need nuclear weapons. We promise to never harm them.
Plot twist Taiwan voluntarily sides with China to spite Trump
Wasn’t the CHIP act supposed to bring production to the US?
I can see it now, Taiwanese people go to America to setup new factory. All get arrested by ICE.
Jesus. He is selling every bit of soft power, hard power, civic infrastructure, every system of self-government we have built over the last hundred years, selling it all off for firewood. It’s like watching a kid borrow the family car and use it to make money by letting people hit it with a sledgehammer for five dollars a swing. I have said “Jesus” more in the last nine months than in the previous nine years. Jesus.
Time to ban chip sales to America in response. Protect Thaiwan or no chips, donald.