I got dared to punch this guy Trevor Scott in high school once. Trevor was way bigger than me. So I ended up punching him and then Trevor kicked the shit out of me.
CutDifferent3776 on
What scares me about this is that I can’t see any logic to it.
IRSnotreal on
And they dare you to violate their airspace again, bitch
faffc260 on
the article is paywalled and I’m to lazy to bypass it at the moment, what are they threatening if nato shoots down a russian jet in our airspace? aside from nuclear escalation where they lose just as badly as we do, I do not see them being capable of anything remotely threatening to nato, even without full US support in the case trump is actually compromised, while still needing the vast majority of their military forces in ukraine and their quickly diminishing equipment stocks there as well?
BossReasonable6449 on
Okay then, they should.
Like that time Turkey did after warning Russia to not fly their planes through their territory to bomb Syria. Russia backed down like the fucking cowards they are.
Russia’s army is being held together at this point by duct tape bought from China. They won’t do shit if NATO decides they’ve had enough.
AmethystOrator on
Maybe they want an escalation to try to bring others like China & NK in?
bad_syntax on
Well, that is one way to lose your entire air force in 24 hours.
SwvellyBents on
Why not just shoot down the aircraft/drones that have violated NATO airspace but not report it to the news?
Let Russia be the one to say „Hey, they shot down our planes that were over their territory!“
wisembrace on
Putin is a nutcase. He does not have broad support from China or India, he is winging it and in desperation pretending to befriend North Korea. The Russian people will have a huge debt to pay when he reaches end of life, and he is in his late seventies.
Appropriate-Talk-735 on
I think this makes the people of Europe more inclined to send money and weapons to Ukraine. Not a clever move..
FunWait57 on
I don’t see a direct quote so I’m guessing that axios is paraphrasing some comment made by an official?
macross1984 on
That’s it. Putin is counting that NATO will be too much of a chicken to dare to shoot down intruding Russian plane that blatently violate NATO airspace.
If NATO does not bite the bullet and take the dare, Putin will escalate his poking to a point that NATO will have to act defensively eventually.
This is the same situation just before WW II when Hitler kept on pushing his luck until the west was finally forced to act after Poland was invaded.
Had the west acted promptly on the very first invasion Hitler did on Sudetenland, it would have nipped Hitler at the earliest stage but we know what happened. Hitler won his bet and it continued until the bullet started flying in ernest called World War II.
Agile-Assist-4662 on
Shoot down anything that comes across NATO airspace. Anything, including human piloted military aircraft.
That’s defensive NATO, no one can claim aggression except Russia.
This guy is just poking you and poking you and you wring your hands and he pushes further and further.
Next it will be battalions on your borders but what, a Russian hasn’t touched his toe in Estonia yet ?
el0j on
Conflating russia paying people to fly consumer level drones vs incursions by fighter jets or combat drones only helps russia.
Completely different problems, requiring different solutions.
AdmirableLuck2369 on
‚Cause we got a bitch in the White House.
RD_Life_Enthusiast on
[NATO shoots down Russian aircraft; clamps down on the news getting out]
**Russia**: Hey! NATO shot down one of our planes!
**NATO member nation**: No, we didn’t. Did you perhaps misplace your aircraft?
**Russia**: No! You shot it down!
**NATO member nation**: We…don’t recall that. Guys? Hear anything about this?
**Other NATO member nations**: Nope.
**Russia**: Well, you did!
**NATO member nation**: We didn’t.
**Russia**: Yes, you did!
**NATO member nation**: Can you prove it? Where would we find the wreckage? Can you show it to us? Surely you have recovered your plane and your pilot if it was operating within Russian air space.
**Russia**: It’s in Pol…um…it’s, um…never mind.
monzo705 on
Just arm Ukraine to the tits and let em go at it.
Vercinius on
So what the fuck are you gonna do against 42 nations. You can shoot your nukes, sure shit. But there is no Single Situation where you can win any conventional war against Nato whatsoever. After 3 years you hold a mere 20% of ukraine. Your russian meatwaves piled like the persians in 300 for it. Bro you dont even have gas. sorry but whenever i think about russia attacking nato its like a Joke. How hard do you want to die ? Russias Population is about 120 million. Nato chills between 900 to 1000 million. If you want to nuke shit just do it and skip the big mouth. you might aswell smack your own nukes into your own cities. Same effect and Result.
no-lift on
Without the threat of a nuclear strike by Russia, NATO air power alone could change the war very quickly.
nyteryder79 on
By Russia’s logic then, it’s perfectly acceptable for other countries to fly through their airspace. If that’s the case, why are they having a problem with Ukraine’s drones flying into Russia („Even if it’s not by accident“)?
steveschoenberg on
Let’s give Ukraine what they need to destroy a few Russian air bases for us.
bandita07 on
Free practice for us. Time to shoot down the drones, planes..
neo_vino on
They’ll push NATO to the extreme limit so that Trump will have to expose himself as the Russian he is, then the American public will be forced to acknowledge it, and if they’re still on board with him, the war is over and Russia won.
Romano16 on
Technically NATO already shot. Turkey did and I haven’t heard of Russia flying planes over them since the last one blew up.
BARBADOSxSLIM on
Well I dare Russia to open up another front
Sally_Swanson on
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Quest4life on
Part of me wishes that some NATO country like Poland or France who just nut up and deploy into Ukraine and just shit stomp Russia back to their 1990 border. Russias threat of nuclear war is nothing but a paper tiger and its time someone called their bluff. I know it wont be the US while theres a Russian asset as a sitting president but one could hope.
bbkray on
Hell of a headline that.
Mindless_Chapter_641 on
Please shoot let’s just end this shit, let’s go to war fuck it all
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I got dared to punch this guy Trevor Scott in high school once. Trevor was way bigger than me. So I ended up punching him and then Trevor kicked the shit out of me.
What scares me about this is that I can’t see any logic to it.
And they dare you to violate their airspace again, bitch
the article is paywalled and I’m to lazy to bypass it at the moment, what are they threatening if nato shoots down a russian jet in our airspace? aside from nuclear escalation where they lose just as badly as we do, I do not see them being capable of anything remotely threatening to nato, even without full US support in the case trump is actually compromised, while still needing the vast majority of their military forces in ukraine and their quickly diminishing equipment stocks there as well?
Okay then, they should.
Like that time Turkey did after warning Russia to not fly their planes through their territory to bomb Syria. Russia backed down like the fucking cowards they are.
Russia’s army is being held together at this point by duct tape bought from China. They won’t do shit if NATO decides they’ve had enough.
Maybe they want an escalation to try to bring others like China & NK in?
Well, that is one way to lose your entire air force in 24 hours.
Why not just shoot down the aircraft/drones that have violated NATO airspace but not report it to the news?
Let Russia be the one to say „Hey, they shot down our planes that were over their territory!“
Putin is a nutcase. He does not have broad support from China or India, he is winging it and in desperation pretending to befriend North Korea. The Russian people will have a huge debt to pay when he reaches end of life, and he is in his late seventies.
I think this makes the people of Europe more inclined to send money and weapons to Ukraine. Not a clever move..
I don’t see a direct quote so I’m guessing that axios is paraphrasing some comment made by an official?
That’s it. Putin is counting that NATO will be too much of a chicken to dare to shoot down intruding Russian plane that blatently violate NATO airspace.
If NATO does not bite the bullet and take the dare, Putin will escalate his poking to a point that NATO will have to act defensively eventually.
This is the same situation just before WW II when Hitler kept on pushing his luck until the west was finally forced to act after Poland was invaded.
Had the west acted promptly on the very first invasion Hitler did on Sudetenland, it would have nipped Hitler at the earliest stage but we know what happened. Hitler won his bet and it continued until the bullet started flying in ernest called World War II.
Shoot down anything that comes across NATO airspace. Anything, including human piloted military aircraft.
That’s defensive NATO, no one can claim aggression except Russia.
This guy is just poking you and poking you and you wring your hands and he pushes further and further.
Next it will be battalions on your borders but what, a Russian hasn’t touched his toe in Estonia yet ?
Conflating russia paying people to fly consumer level drones vs incursions by fighter jets or combat drones only helps russia.
Completely different problems, requiring different solutions.
‚Cause we got a bitch in the White House.
[NATO shoots down Russian aircraft; clamps down on the news getting out]
**Russia**: Hey! NATO shot down one of our planes!
**NATO member nation**: No, we didn’t. Did you perhaps misplace your aircraft?
**Russia**: No! You shot it down!
**NATO member nation**: We…don’t recall that. Guys? Hear anything about this?
**Other NATO member nations**: Nope.
**Russia**: Well, you did!
**NATO member nation**: We didn’t.
**Russia**: Yes, you did!
**NATO member nation**: Can you prove it? Where would we find the wreckage? Can you show it to us? Surely you have recovered your plane and your pilot if it was operating within Russian air space.
**Russia**: It’s in Pol…um…it’s, um…never mind.
Just arm Ukraine to the tits and let em go at it.
So what the fuck are you gonna do against 42 nations. You can shoot your nukes, sure shit. But there is no Single Situation where you can win any conventional war against Nato whatsoever. After 3 years you hold a mere 20% of ukraine. Your russian meatwaves piled like the persians in 300 for it. Bro you dont even have gas. sorry but whenever i think about russia attacking nato its like a Joke. How hard do you want to die ? Russias Population is about 120 million. Nato chills between 900 to 1000 million. If you want to nuke shit just do it and skip the big mouth. you might aswell smack your own nukes into your own cities. Same effect and Result.
Without the threat of a nuclear strike by Russia, NATO air power alone could change the war very quickly.
By Russia’s logic then, it’s perfectly acceptable for other countries to fly through their airspace. If that’s the case, why are they having a problem with Ukraine’s drones flying into Russia („Even if it’s not by accident“)?
Let’s give Ukraine what they need to destroy a few Russian air bases for us.
Free practice for us. Time to shoot down the drones, planes..
They’ll push NATO to the extreme limit so that Trump will have to expose himself as the Russian he is, then the American public will be forced to acknowledge it, and if they’re still on board with him, the war is over and Russia won.
Technically NATO already shot. Turkey did and I haven’t heard of Russia flying planes over them since the last one blew up.
Well I dare Russia to open up another front
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Part of me wishes that some NATO country like Poland or France who just nut up and deploy into Ukraine and just shit stomp Russia back to their 1990 border. Russias threat of nuclear war is nothing but a paper tiger and its time someone called their bluff. I know it wont be the US while theres a Russian asset as a sitting president but one could hope.
Hell of a headline that.
Please shoot let’s just end this shit, let’s go to war fuck it all