I wonder if this is the reason for the strange dystopian aspect of carneys border bill.
I for one would like to see the privacy of citizens respected
ZebediahCarterLong on
>Security organizations‘ access to personal information, like private messages, is „one of the most intrusive powers of the state“ that Canadians expect is used only when „prescribed by law, [serves] a legitimate purpose and be necessary and proportionate,“ the report said.
>It said Canadians also expect them to have „the tools, policies and lawful authorities“ for such access.
>“Canadians would be surprised to learn how difficult it actually is for security and intelligence agencies to do so,“ it said.
>The committee found that unlike a number Canada’s allies, this country does not have legislation to compel service providers to develop, deploy or maintain systems to quickly provide that information if CSIS and the RCMP come knocking with a judicial authorization.
Personally, I’m glad that the powers-that-be have a difficult time accessing citizens‘ information without demonstrating due cause.
Would we be safer if out various communications were more readily available? Quite possibly. However, there is a vital question of what that extra safety is worth to us.
I believe that our basic privacy should be respected in all but the most extreme of circumstances.
„The state has no business in the bedrooms of the nation.“ Nor does it have a place in our mailboxes or private conversations.
Snurgisdr on
Good. It shouldn’t be impossible in case of a real and demonstrated need, but ‘significant challenge’ sounds just about right.
grathontolarsdatarod on
This is a pretty big article.
But there is a spin going on here.
NOW they are eluding to making encryption itself the demon, to make it illegal.
The article talks about CSIS and the RCMP not getting information from providers when they come with a warrant.
Bill c2 takes judges out of the equation. That means it GIVES judicial power to police forces. This is racism. There isn’t an other way to look at it.
This bill was pushed by the trump administration. Why is that being washed out of the debate?
This bill, puts in place a, legislated gag order. It is an NDA that carries a jail sentence. How is that what Canadians want?
There is more in there. I just have to get to work.
Nothing has changed but the narrative.
paulsteinway on
Good! They **should** have to jump through a lot of hoops to get private data. Otherwise you personal data will be their fishing pond.
Reasonable-Sweet9320 on
„They state that encryption and the increasing volume, variety and velocity of digitally generated data make it difficult and sometimes impossible to gather the information needed to carry out effective investigations.“
The committee found that unlike a number of Canada’s allies, this country does not have legislation to compel service providers to develop, deploy or maintain systems to quickly provide that information if CSIS and the RCMP come knocking with a judicial authorization.
NSICOP said that gap is creating risks including delays, legal ambiguity, financial inefficiencies and „has caused confusion and frustration for all parties.“
CSIS told the committee the lack of intercept capability legislation „is the single greatest differentiator with our [Five Eyes] partners who all have more success than we do.“
ApprenticeWrangler on
Why is this framed as a bad thing? We need to step back from the police state mentality the rest of the world is marching towards.
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I wonder if this is the reason for the strange dystopian aspect of carneys border bill.
I for one would like to see the privacy of citizens respected
>Security organizations‘ access to personal information, like private messages, is „one of the most intrusive powers of the state“ that Canadians expect is used only when „prescribed by law, [serves] a legitimate purpose and be necessary and proportionate,“ the report said.
>It said Canadians also expect them to have „the tools, policies and lawful authorities“ for such access.
>“Canadians would be surprised to learn how difficult it actually is for security and intelligence agencies to do so,“ it said.
>The committee found that unlike a number Canada’s allies, this country does not have legislation to compel service providers to develop, deploy or maintain systems to quickly provide that information if CSIS and the RCMP come knocking with a judicial authorization.
Personally, I’m glad that the powers-that-be have a difficult time accessing citizens‘ information without demonstrating due cause.
Would we be safer if out various communications were more readily available? Quite possibly. However, there is a vital question of what that extra safety is worth to us.
I believe that our basic privacy should be respected in all but the most extreme of circumstances.
„The state has no business in the bedrooms of the nation.“ Nor does it have a place in our mailboxes or private conversations.
Good. It shouldn’t be impossible in case of a real and demonstrated need, but ‘significant challenge’ sounds just about right.
This is a pretty big article.
But there is a spin going on here.
NOW they are eluding to making encryption itself the demon, to make it illegal.
The article talks about CSIS and the RCMP not getting information from providers when they come with a warrant.
Bill c2 takes judges out of the equation. That means it GIVES judicial power to police forces. This is racism. There isn’t an other way to look at it.
This bill was pushed by the trump administration. Why is that being washed out of the debate?
This bill, puts in place a, legislated gag order. It is an NDA that carries a jail sentence. How is that what Canadians want?
There is more in there. I just have to get to work.
Nothing has changed but the narrative.
Good! They **should** have to jump through a lot of hoops to get private data. Otherwise you personal data will be their fishing pond.
„They state that encryption and the increasing volume, variety and velocity of digitally generated data make it difficult and sometimes impossible to gather the information needed to carry out effective investigations.“
The committee found that unlike a number of Canada’s allies, this country does not have legislation to compel service providers to develop, deploy or maintain systems to quickly provide that information if CSIS and the RCMP come knocking with a judicial authorization.
NSICOP said that gap is creating risks including delays, legal ambiguity, financial inefficiencies and „has caused confusion and frustration for all parties.“
CSIS told the committee the lack of intercept capability legislation „is the single greatest differentiator with our [Five Eyes] partners who all have more success than we do.“
Why is this framed as a bad thing? We need to step back from the police state mentality the rest of the world is marching towards.