Keir Starrer, um progressiv
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/sep/23/keir-starmer-to-launch-progressive-fightback-against-decline-and-division-fuelled-by-far-right
Von BlackCaesarNT
Keir Starrer, um progressiv
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/sep/23/keir-starmer-to-launch-progressive-fightback-against-decline-and-division-fuelled-by-far-right
Von BlackCaesarNT
26 Kommentare
Let’s do it properly then. Invest in education and training in disadvantaged areas. Invest in youth schemes and community initiatives that we lost due to Austerity. Take advantaged of how well placed our technologically literate young population are to one day drive a world leading industry. Stop hammering working people left right and centre with every economic decision. Take a risk and be bold with a sensible discussion around progressive taxation on the super wealthy.
“Progressive fight back”.
It’s not very sexy, is it?
It’s also completely reactionary.
Labour needs to grab the initiative, they need to give people and hope and belief in a better future. A clear message with a simple mission.
What about..?
– “Britain Deserves Better — Labour Delivers.”
– “People Before Privilege”
– “Making work pay”
– “Rebuilding Brittain”
– “Hope > Austerity”
– “Tax wealth, not work”
Simple, clean.
Honestly Labour just need to do more to publish their successes, things like their multiple infrastructure policies and achievements.
Though its admittedly an uphill battle, the Tories got their successes championed by default and were given the benefit of the doubt, while the worst is assumed about Labour and they need to fight for every positive headline they get. No one knows what they’re doing, no one hears about it.
This guy is single handedly making people move to the far right, the absolute fucking plum.
It’s too late.
Most of these cookers have lost their minds.
The only way to stop fascism at this stage is to abandon the nice. Voting qualification exams, required adherence to basic principles of human rights to run for election or sit in parliament. Essentially, ban Reform.
If they riot, then stick them in jail until the problem subsides.
If a war breaks out with Russia, the UK like most other democratic countries will have to bite the bullet and deal to these people anyway – as was done in WW2. We should do it now.
Going to be hard with how disenfranchised people are.
I can only speak for myself but when I look around (cities especially) I can’t believe what I am seeing and as far as I am concerned the decline will only increase unless something dramatic is done. Other than that, I don’t care about whatever promises are made until I see real results.
Is this his attempt to claw back some of the progressives he said were free to leave if they didn’t like his leadership?
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this is exactly why in a 2-party system the rise of Zack Polanski and the potential emergence of a new left party are so important
it pulls Labour policy and rhetoric away from the far right as they’re forced to deal with the threat of losing seats to the left
Kinda need to be progressive to do that and not a friend of Peter Mandelson.
He should stop giving interviews and exclusives to The Sun for one thing
What’s he gonna do? Prevent thoughts and opinions in people’s heads? Monitor social media for wrong thinking? Make buddies with foreign terrorists and threaten locals? Oh wait…
Don’t actually fix the problems. Just launch attacks on the people who notice. What could go wrong.
It’s ridiculous that Starmer would position himself as a ‚progressive‘, in my opinion he’s exactly the opposite.
How come everyone who wants control is „far right“ I’m not far fuck all!
If anything I’m centre right but get tied into some slur essentially calling me a nazi for wanting control on immigration
Well none of the left-leaning Labour voters will ever trust him again, and are more likely to vote Green now.
Telling people that actually, seeing all the decline around them is far right and things are peachy is certainly a strategy.
He needs to end the asylum system. It’s a complete joke, just have bespoke agreements with Ukraine, Hong Kong, etc. like we do atm, and only permit women and children.
That would help a lot.
And then spur on growth with a huge amount of deregulation and being tough on crime – abolish Nature England, abolish the Sentencing Council, bring back the IPPs, massively cut down planning processes, abolish the Online Safety Act, and the remnants of EU digital regulation from the DSA, etc., introduce a a good threshold on VAT payments for international revenue too (this is terrible for digital business atm).
The digital ID push is good, but should be accompanied with residence registration and physical ID cards (like in Europe). Abolish the pensions‘ Triple Lock, introduce tougher benefits caps, introduce a Land Value Tax.
Labour are the most sensible party still, and could turn things around but it will be a lot of work and some unpopular decisions.
Keir Starmer isn’t the right man for this. A new leader with some charisma perhaps.
A movement based on positives rather than negatives is needed. It’s like the net zero debate. The political zeitgeist now seems all about rowing that back when we see the results of climate change every year but all we’ve heard is the doom and gloom. A professor on the radio yesterday said it – we’ve concentrated far too much on the very real negatives and threats and not on what the positives of adopting these measures in our lives and society could be. Same with the rest of the political debate.
Maybe if he didn’t quote Enoch Powell and follow Nigel Farages policies then we would already be fighting back.
But no, you keep doing that Keir and then hope that saying you are fighting back will keep people believing in Labour.
I for one, have been left by Labour as I refuse to move with the centre
How? By carrying on the tory slash and burn cuts and continuing to target the most vulnerable? Starmer is about as progressive as the catholic church.
He’s pushed away the left, and we just don’t trust him. The right do not want him since they have Farage and the Tories, so what is he going to do with this? Gather the ever-smaller number of centrists and hope that’s enough?
Reclaiming patriotism again? It’s worked wonders so far.
Its too late, although the british have a good history of rejecting authoritarian governments this feels like a movement growing from Europe aswell.
Education, education, education – and that starts with educator recruitment and retention. To do that they’ll need to massively boost salaries.
They’ll do anything other than tax the rich and help the fucked over.
Is this going to be as successful as his other attempts at doing politics?