>“Russia’s ever-increasing testing of borders and aggressiveness must be responded to by rapidly strengthening political and economic pressure,“
I feel like political and economic pressure have been properly applied since at least February 2022, and it doesn’t seem to be doing much to prevent stuff like this.
AnnoyingBus on
Putin badly wants to drag NATO into war to use an excuse why he failed in Ukraine.
Frenzystor on
Maybe some AGM should mistakenly go into russian air space.
EduardBon on
So, NATO is under Russian military tests. Wake up my brothers in arms.
UncleTaco916 on
Probably to distract the planet from Epstein at this point.
Evil_Potatos on
Putin wants NATO to keep air defense for themselves instead of giving it to Ukraine.
lesmainsdepigeon on
Lock down all airspace over Ukraine and elsewhere. Anything incoming gets caught in the NATO umbrella, full-stop.
cuppachuppa on
I haven’t read the article, but I’m going to guess they „condemn it“ and will speak to the ambassador and essentially do nothing.
Illustrious-Syrup509 on
Shoot down after 2 minutes
klautkollector on
a strong worded letter ?
Gunderstank_House on
The response: „Hey! watch it!“
Felczer on
At this point it’s time to just shot that shit down no questions asked, Turkey did it and nothing happened
DesignerCorner3322 on
So the political and military equivalent of a stern finger wag. Got it.
DarthKrataa on
I would be curious to know how common this is, the RAF are scrambled every other month is seems for Russian planes getting close to British airspace.
It does feel like this is Russia testing the boundaries of what they can get away with.
Opening-Employee9802 on
NATO responds by, ‘condemning in the strongest possible terms Russias aggression towards the NATO parters, blah blah’. Then sanctions. Haven’t read the article but I think this is pretty much the gist of it.
BruceForsyth55 on
I have no doubt that at this rate in the next couple of weeks or so one of us will end up shooting down a Russian jet.
Hate to say it but we can’t allow Putin doing this to become the new normal.
LubberwortPicaroon on
Article 4 has been triggered by Estonia. Only the 9th time since NATO’s founding. This is the second time this month
evangelion619 on
recent weapon packages from EUs royally fking him. Putin wants EU countries to hold weapons and money to defend their own country not to Ukraine.
JadedArgument1114 on
Shoot them down. Claim that you thought they were ufos and let Russia choose if they want to kick shit off or not. *SPOILER they will not want to kick shit off and they will be more careful like they were with Turkey
chrisloveys on
Other NATO states should copy Turkey. When a Ruzzian military jet flew into their airspace a couple years ago they simply shot it down. No more incursions since I believe.
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Dreadedvegas on
Where is the kinetic sanctions? Aka shooting down Russian planes that enter NATO airspace?
NATO should warn Putin that for every drone or violation of airspace that three Russian refineries would be completely destroyed.
Defining a no-fly zone in Ukraine and for each violation, Crimea would be attacked by Ukrainians with the necessary war material provided by NATO starting with the famous bridge.
An eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth.
BigHose_911 on
As many times as this has happened, especially of late, why don’t we just shoot them down once in a while? I understand this is provocation, but Russia continues to do this, I believe, because they don’t think NATO will do anything. Sending a few of their planes into the dirt after repeated warnings and escalating fears seems justified to me and may make them reconsider provocation like this in the future.
And I’ll be pre-emptive here, I ncase someone says it. I don’t think this would lead to war. Russia cant even gain significant ground against Ukraine. They certainly won’t want to open a new front with NATO. They don’t have the men or equipment to properly hold such a huge border.
thanosbananos on
Shoot that shit down immediately, tf are they waiting for. Gentle parenting Russia doesn’t work.
ABotelho23 on
Tsk tsk tsk, bad Russia! Stop that!
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fredzor96 on
Can we send a jet also to fly in russia ? And se what they do ?
Typingdude3 on
Elephant in the room is China. They will never let Russia fail, run out of money, or run out of customers for its oil. NATO can respond to Russia but will be ignored as usual. Provocations just keep getting bigger.
Natural-Net-1513 on
Sometimes I wish NATO was even 10% as bad as the worthless vatnik hordes pretend.
Declare that any airspace violations that clearly isn’t a genuine mistake will be seen as hostile and shoot them down if they do not clear within xx minutes.
Lavrov can sit and shit his usual complaints all he wants. Don’t send your garbage into NATO airspace then, you cancer of a nation.
Yabedude on
Russia is running tests to determine response times and reactions for their upcoming plan to invade more countries.
armin514 on
just shoot them
Stunning_Mediocrity on
Anything short of a kinetic response won’t mean shit to Russia.
GreatGojira on
If only NATO would do something..
Plenty_Ambassador424 on
Fund and help Ukraine build a couple hundred flamingos for every violation and they will stop that shit very quickly.
TheUHO on
Ukrainians are kicking our asses. Maybe fly jets in Europe?
Cafeine on
I wonder how they choose the pilots. Is it random? Is it a terrible one that they don’t mind loosing? Is it a good one cause these missions are risky?
Albert3232 on
shoot it down. putin will not do anything about it. plus it will further damage his image in russia.
One-Collection-5184 on
Can’t wait till the nukes are flying man, get this over with
LightBit8 on
Why is violate in quotes as it would not be true?
Baileythetraveller on
The answer is to hold NATO air-games over Romania. Force the Russians to track all the plane activity. Then Ukraine can take the opportunity to send a few planes and missiles to blow the Kerch Bridge to hell.
A firm message, with consequences, but not a pure escalation. That’s how I would play this stupid game.
Nightspirit_ on
Since the drone incident over Poland I’ve been feeling Russia is trying to do a suicide by nato. One can dream
Reqvhio on
as economic and general woes get worse in russia they could try to go all in against europe, why not
GlumIce852 on
I wouldn’t be surprised if Russia pulled an MH17 again in a NATO country. Drones meant for Ukraine “accidentally” flying into passenger jets
robert-tech on
If this is Putin testing the waters as others say, it’s an absolute joke. He can barely make progress in Ukraine, yet people are claiming he’s planning a NATO incursion of some sorts.
Darth_Groot28 on
Just shoot them down.. Simple as that. Make Russia respond or fire something so slow that Russia could evade or destroy it easily. Say that was just a warning. Next time it is destroyed. Anything Russian that enters NATO air space. An ultimatum has to be drawn and they are not really doing it…
_x_oOo_x_ on
Soon they will claim it was because they mistakenly jammed their own navigation systems
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>“Russia’s ever-increasing testing of borders and aggressiveness must be responded to by rapidly strengthening political and economic pressure,“
I feel like political and economic pressure have been properly applied since at least February 2022, and it doesn’t seem to be doing much to prevent stuff like this.
Putin badly wants to drag NATO into war to use an excuse why he failed in Ukraine.
Maybe some AGM should mistakenly go into russian air space.
So, NATO is under Russian military tests. Wake up my brothers in arms.
Probably to distract the planet from Epstein at this point.
Putin wants NATO to keep air defense for themselves instead of giving it to Ukraine.
Lock down all airspace over Ukraine and elsewhere. Anything incoming gets caught in the NATO umbrella, full-stop.
I haven’t read the article, but I’m going to guess they „condemn it“ and will speak to the ambassador and essentially do nothing.
Shoot down after 2 minutes
a strong worded letter ?
The response: „Hey! watch it!“
At this point it’s time to just shot that shit down no questions asked, Turkey did it and nothing happened
So the political and military equivalent of a stern finger wag. Got it.
I would be curious to know how common this is, the RAF are scrambled every other month is seems for Russian planes getting close to British airspace.
It does feel like this is Russia testing the boundaries of what they can get away with.
NATO responds by, ‘condemning in the strongest possible terms Russias aggression towards the NATO parters, blah blah’. Then sanctions. Haven’t read the article but I think this is pretty much the gist of it.
I have no doubt that at this rate in the next couple of weeks or so one of us will end up shooting down a Russian jet.
Hate to say it but we can’t allow Putin doing this to become the new normal.
Article 4 has been triggered by Estonia. Only the 9th time since NATO’s founding. This is the second time this month
recent weapon packages from EUs royally fking him. Putin wants EU countries to hold weapons and money to defend their own country not to Ukraine.
Shoot them down. Claim that you thought they were ufos and let Russia choose if they want to kick shit off or not. *SPOILER they will not want to kick shit off and they will be more careful like they were with Turkey
Other NATO states should copy Turkey. When a Ruzzian military jet flew into their airspace a couple years ago they simply shot it down. No more incursions since I believe.
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Where is the kinetic sanctions? Aka shooting down Russian planes that enter NATO airspace?
Or we could implement this brilliant idea:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/mar/07/donald-trump-russia-ukraine-jets-chinese
NATO should warn Putin that for every drone or violation of airspace that three Russian refineries would be completely destroyed.
Defining a no-fly zone in Ukraine and for each violation, Crimea would be attacked by Ukrainians with the necessary war material provided by NATO starting with the famous bridge.
An eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth.
As many times as this has happened, especially of late, why don’t we just shoot them down once in a while? I understand this is provocation, but Russia continues to do this, I believe, because they don’t think NATO will do anything. Sending a few of their planes into the dirt after repeated warnings and escalating fears seems justified to me and may make them reconsider provocation like this in the future.
And I’ll be pre-emptive here, I ncase someone says it. I don’t think this would lead to war. Russia cant even gain significant ground against Ukraine. They certainly won’t want to open a new front with NATO. They don’t have the men or equipment to properly hold such a huge border.
Shoot that shit down immediately, tf are they waiting for. Gentle parenting Russia doesn’t work.
Tsk tsk tsk, bad Russia! Stop that!
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Can we send a jet also to fly in russia ? And se what they do ?
Elephant in the room is China. They will never let Russia fail, run out of money, or run out of customers for its oil. NATO can respond to Russia but will be ignored as usual. Provocations just keep getting bigger.
Sometimes I wish NATO was even 10% as bad as the worthless vatnik hordes pretend.
Declare that any airspace violations that clearly isn’t a genuine mistake will be seen as hostile and shoot them down if they do not clear within xx minutes.
Lavrov can sit and shit his usual complaints all he wants. Don’t send your garbage into NATO airspace then, you cancer of a nation.
Russia is running tests to determine response times and reactions for their upcoming plan to invade more countries.
just shoot them
Anything short of a kinetic response won’t mean shit to Russia.
If only NATO would do something..
Fund and help Ukraine build a couple hundred flamingos for every violation and they will stop that shit very quickly.
Ukrainians are kicking our asses. Maybe fly jets in Europe?
I wonder how they choose the pilots. Is it random? Is it a terrible one that they don’t mind loosing? Is it a good one cause these missions are risky?
shoot it down. putin will not do anything about it. plus it will further damage his image in russia.
Can’t wait till the nukes are flying man, get this over with
Why is violate in quotes as it would not be true?
The answer is to hold NATO air-games over Romania. Force the Russians to track all the plane activity. Then Ukraine can take the opportunity to send a few planes and missiles to blow the Kerch Bridge to hell.
A firm message, with consequences, but not a pure escalation. That’s how I would play this stupid game.
Since the drone incident over Poland I’ve been feeling Russia is trying to do a suicide by nato. One can dream
as economic and general woes get worse in russia they could try to go all in against europe, why not
I wouldn’t be surprised if Russia pulled an MH17 again in a NATO country. Drones meant for Ukraine “accidentally” flying into passenger jets
If this is Putin testing the waters as others say, it’s an absolute joke. He can barely make progress in Ukraine, yet people are claiming he’s planning a NATO incursion of some sorts.
Just shoot them down.. Simple as that. Make Russia respond or fire something so slow that Russia could evade or destroy it easily. Say that was just a warning. Next time it is destroyed. Anything Russian that enters NATO air space. An ultimatum has to be drawn and they are not really doing it…
Soon they will claim it was because they mistakenly jammed their own navigation systems