Hallo. Wir haben diesen Brief von fderung.com GmbH erhalten, aber bei Überprüfung haben wir nie E -Mails vom „Opfer“ erhalten. Gleichzeitig habe ich bei einer schnellen Suche nur negative Bewertungen zu diesem Unternehmen gelesen und dass sie mögliche Betrüger sind, aber ich habe mich gefragt, ob jemand etwas von ihnen erhalten hat und mich bestätigen kann, dass es sich tatsächlich um einen Betrug handelt. Am Ende der Seite heißt es, dass sie ein schufa -offizieller Partner sind, aber auf Schufas Partnerliste erscheint dieser Forderung nicht. Sie bitten um 445 € Schadensersatz für das „Opfer“.
Vielen Dank im Voraus!
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Von MissTuan
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probably (90+%) a scam. Everyone starting with „dear Sir or madam“, doesnt know who you are. How should they know of any money you owe to anyone? a German company that never conversed with you would also not write to you in english. Hell, even if they specifically knew its all youre speaking they most likely wouldnt do that.
And im not sure what SCHUFA official partner should even mean
As long as it is not in a yellow envelope, I would consider it a scam.
I’ve never received an official, serious letter without my name and on top with “Date format – DD.MM.YYYY”.
Why do they right in English to you if it’s a legally registered german company. On all legal matters only communication in german is valid. As it is the only Amtssprache existing in Germany
You’re in Germany. Companies cannot send official letters to you in English only.
The main question is: Is the client known to you? Did you handle any personal information regarding the client (name, address, email, etc.)
If you know the client and handled that information, it’s not a scam.
But just because it’s not a scam doesn’t make this a valid claim. But that question cannot be answered without knowledge of your business with the client.
It seems weird to say the least. Why would an Inkassounternehmen, who are usually responsible for collecting unpaid bills, pursue a GDPR violation?
I suggest you ask in the legal advice sub r/legaladvicegerman for Germany. And maybe contact a lawyer on your own, even if it is a scam, it might be a legal one until you do something against it.
Definitely don’t just send them the money because you are scared.
They actually offer you a portal to check out the claims they are making: https://schuldnerportal.forderung.com/login
7 days is crazy fast, so id say scam
its most likely a scam. First of all, its in english. They also do not have your name, and its just a badly used template. Go to your local police and report it. Most have a cyber department.
One more fishy thing: Forderung.com seems to be an Inkasso (that’s what is written on the website), but an Inkasso is not a law firm.
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Scam !
!!!!!! SCAM !!!!!!!
Yeah, it’s a scam.
Still you should ask yourself where they’ve got your data from.
Probably this site? Same guy responsible for above is for datenschutz-com.
If you know some good lawyers and have money to spend (or insurance), you should sue the guy.
What you want is a „negative Feststellungsklage“, if the claim in your sheet is not valid.
Also for an incomplete imprint under datenschutz-com.
200% Scam
In Germany German is the only undeniable language for legal matters by law. So you can discard it without worry or even think of suing them for breaching DSGVO and your personal rights.
Yes it’s definitely scam this one
Inkasso is like the bottom of all professions, they will use anything to trick you into paying. Check if you have legal insurance and lawyer up.
Edit:
Even tho it sucks, you should take down this photo asap. Maybe reupload with personal data of the client and Case ID censored.
Have they even detailed which violation they exactly accuse you of?
Looks like a scam to me.
It’s not in german for a start.
Hi. I’m a lawyer who works in data privacy in a company but I don’t advise people on their individual cases, I just advise a company about its obligations.
What I’m going to tell you is not legal advice. Im not qualified to give it and I don’t know your particulars. Don’t rely on this advice.
On the face of it:
Firstly; it doesn’t have your address or name on it. It’s not written in German. It doesn’t appear to have any details of what is alleged against you. It’s not a proper legal letter of demand in my opinion.
Secondly; any data protection issues need to be reported to the data protection authority of the Bundesland. You can look up the DPA for where ever you are and get in touch with them.
I’m not even sure that one can sue for damages for unlawful use of personal data. I’m quite sure the only ramifications are through fines from the DPA
Id get in touch with the DPA and/or Look up the Rechtsanwalt Kammer for your area and find a data protection lawyer, email them the letter and see if they tell you its bs
I sometimes do wonder why people have to ask if this is a scam. It is a very poor scam, just throw it in the bin
Right to the trash bin 🗑️.
Take that seriously. It’s a big company sending more or less automated DSGVO violation punishments out. In your case it sounds like you have a contact form that doesn’t do SSL. Get a lawyer or pay.
Lol getting a letter IN ENGLISH from a German authority, that’s very likely.
Also, love the „date format“, good grief.
There is NOTHING about this letter that would make me think this is legitimate.
Also, Client Yulia Roth, that you? Maybe delete that whole thing – and throw that letter away, too.
Ist a great trick to just paste a photo of this letter in ChatGPT. The AI is quite great in recognizing scams.
Here is a quick summary:
# Why this letter looks like a scam:
1. **Threatening tone with short deadlines**
* Scam debt collection letters often pressure the recipient with very short deadlines (7 days here) and threats of legal action or high costs.
2. **No specific amount mentioned**
* The letter talks about “damages for GDPR violation” but does not state the exact amount claimed. A legitimate demand letter must always include the precise sum.
3. **Generic legal jargon**
* The text is full of legal references (European Court of Justice, Federal Court of Justice) but without any concrete details of an actual incident.
4. **Suspicious sender**
* “FORDERUNG.COM GmbH” sounds very generic. Real debt collection agencies must provide clear company details such as registration number, tax ID, and official contact info. A quick check shows no well-known or registered agency with this name.
5. **Untrustworthy email**
* The address “[inkasso@forderung.com]()” looks suspicious. Legitimate agencies usually use verifiable domains tied to registered companies.
# Conclusion:
This letter is **very likely a scam (fake debt collection / phishing attempt)**. Its goal is to intimidate you into paying or contacting them.
# Recommended actions:
* **Do not respond** and definitely do not pay.
* Keep the letter for your records.
* To be absolutely sure, you can:
* Check if the supposed debt collection company is listed in the **official German debt collection register** (Inkassoregister at [https://www.rechtsdienstleistungsregister.de]()).
* Report the letter to your local **consumer protection office** (Verbraucherzentrale in Germany).