Als ehemaliger Verkehrspolizei sehe ich die Beweise aus erster Hand-Speed-Kameras sind keine Steuergrad, sie machen Städte sicherer
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/drive/culture/article-as-a-former-traffic-cop-i-see-the-evidence-first-hand-speed-cameras/
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With the amount of aggressive drivers you see on the streets of Toronto, I don’t feel bad for them getting a nice, fat, speeding ticket. Speed cameras often give a fair warning sign that one is coming up and you have to slow down.
If you miss the sign, that’s on you. It costs nothing to slow down, and the angry drivers who cut down these speed cameras don’t want to change.
If Ford is serious about preferring speed bumps to replace speed cameras he removes, ok, fine. Do it. But I know he won’t. He’s just catering to the GTA drivers who commute into Toronto because that’s his voting base.
It’s annoying that every idea Toronto comes up with to generate revenue, we are at the mercy of the GTA who doesn’t want to pay. Sigh.
I would be fine with them carrying demerit points but if there aren’t fines it means the rest of us are on the hook for the cost of operating and maintaining them.
It’s also wildly overstated how much cities are collecting from these, most of it goes to the vendor that operates and sets up the cameras. They approach cities with the pitch that they’ll make streets safer, as backed by mountains of research, and it won’t cost a thing. I’d be pissed if my city said no thanks.
I grew up in Montreal and when I moved to Edmonton, I was quite surprised how different it felt driving there where photo radar was almost on every single boulevard intersection. I felt like I was the crazy driver in the city now, compared to being home in Montreal.
These cameras saved Brampton, people were killed in neighborhoods that I know. And now folks are finally slowing down in front of schools.
I would 1000% keep them in front of schools at least
Like a lot of things Conservatives rail against, there isn’t really much debate about this if you’re actually willing to look at evidence, it’s just that people are prioritizing „common sense“ (i.e. rationalizing their preconceived notions) and feels over what is well-established science.
We live in a world where people wants to have the „right“ to be able to do whatever they want, whenever they want while never contributing to society through taxes, but also where people are outraged when someone happens to THEM.
It’s a world of selfishness where any attempts to make people responsible for their actions (hence safer for everyone else) is blamed as an infringement on their sacrosanct privacy (even in public areas).
Taxes are not bad, speed cameras are not bad, laws are not bad. What’s bad is when people wants all the benefits of living in a society while refusing all the responsibilities that comes with those benefits.
Adding traffic calming measures is far more effective
I actually don’t understand why anyone says it’s a “tax grab”. Do you mean a fine grab? Why is paying fines for doing illegal things bad? Or is the complaint that the city is using taxes to put up cameras? And if that’s true it’s not really a tax grab, it’s the city using taxes to do city stuff. Isn’t the entire police force just a tax grab then?
I saw a post that some country made a contest out of the cameras and entered compliant drivers into a monthly draw to win cash.
The real problem here isn’t the „tax grab“.
But calling it that goes a long away to COMPLETELY skirt the issues of due process.
What both sides of this argument totally ignore is the compromise to due process in securing a conviction.
That has way farther reaching consequences than what either side is trying to fix.
We are just a few years away from fully automated driving. The next step will be to make manual driving illegal on major roads.
[traffic calming measures in action](https://www.reddit.com/r/britishcolumbia/comments/1204c6l/vancouvers_slow_street_barriers_in_action/)
The issue with the position that speeding is a design flaw, not a moral failure, is that people in Canada drive like absolute maniacs. In Vancouver, you get honked at if you only go 20 km over the speed limit in the slow lane.
Of course they do. I’d rather we didn’t need them either but they’re here, so either learn to play the game or pay your fines
Yes just like the Winnipeg Police ticketing people in winter for dirty license plates. See it’s for safety. Not so the speed camera can make sure it gets a clear photo.
I’d agree to some degree. It certainly is a cash grab that somewhat works.
If you want people to stop speeding, make tickets it unaffordable ffs. The rich can speed all day long while the rest of us speed when we see no police or cameras, but we can all mostly afford to pay a nominal fine.
Make speeding tickets ~20-30% of an individual’s salary for example. I guarantee you speeding will come to a halt…so will the cash grab accusations.