Dänischer Justizminister: „Wir müssen mit der völlig fehlerhaften Wahrnehmung brechen, dass es die bürgerliche Freiheit aller ist, über verschlüsselte Messaging -Dienste zu kommunizieren.“

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    1. -Adanedhel- on

      It’s everybody’s civil liberty just the same as it’s everybody’s civil liberty to not be heard by their governments when they’re chatting home or in the streets.

    2. The problem with this statement is that once you start tearing down people’s basic human rights, it is remarkably difficult to _stop_.

    3. The EU really wants people to resort to more clear forms of protest.
      Since decades they want to introduce digital mass surveillance, since decades they get that denied by the people.
      Do they give af? Not in the slightest. Every two or so years the same shit. These politicians need to be removed.
      And always, they use childs for their dystopian fantasies.

      Hilarious, if you think about it. The people need to be spied on, for the kids. But they and their billionaire friends run pedo rings all over the world.
      You cannot make this shit up

    4. …how on earth do they/he argue such a position? What twisted interpretation of people’s rights has he given?
      Fuck the ’statement‘, give me the rest to see how they got to this. Who’s got the context for this??

    5. It’s wild that we’re having a conversation about whether the government has the right to monitor all conversations without the consent of citizens or the permission of the courts.

      We’ve gone from „the government needs permission to monitor conversations“ to „the government should monitor ALL conversations and save the data, you have no right to privacy.“ It’s mind blowing.

    6. BlackLightRO on

      What is this guy’s problem? Why is this Danish party pushing so hard for this?

    7. Grizzly-Redneck on

      It really feels like a race to the bottom. Even if these people get removed from office the next generation of politicians are immediately going to begin waving their hands in the air while yelling „buy me, buy me, I’m for sale“.

    8. Yes, he Is right.

      So, all politicians communication must be unencrypted and open for the public to scrutiny.

    9. Euphoric_Protection on

      There’s no backdoor for the good guys only. Every bank transaction uses cryptography. Now add up.

    10. Positive_Chip6198 on

      Well “letter secrecy” is enshrined in the danish constitution as far as i know.

    11. Odd-Gain-8706 on

      Sure, but let’s apply it to politics too. What about streaming devices permanently attached to every single politician nose? 24/7 online streaming so citizens can control they politics. If they are fair they have nothing to hide. Right?

    12. Russian here. The level of resemblance between current speeches in Europe and speeches by Russian politicians 15-20 years ago is astonishing. How is it possible that without Putin or pressure from intelligence services, free Europe is moving in the same direction? Please don’t repeat our mistakes. Fight while you can.

    13. Worried-Ad-7925 on

      yet it’s amazing how pissed off he’d be if anyone were to rummage through his own browser history, without any probable cause.

    14. Basic-Still-7441 on

      What’s wrong with Denmark recently? Where does that anger against privacy come from?

    15. dat_9600gt_user on

      Authoritarian state logic from a minister of justice in a democratic country. I expect better.

    16. SlyScorpion on

      “If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear” levels of idiocy lol

    17. Against the law everywhere to open your neighbor’s mailbox, take out the letters and read them. Even worse, share them with others, photograph and catalog them and give your neighbor a grading on what you think about his life. Absurd doesn’t begin to describe this kind of invasion.

    18. AccountantNo3327 on

      I swear the Danes have the worst takes imaginable. They also spied on their fellow euros on America’s behalf and then had the audacity to say allies shouldn’t spy on each other years later. Then we’re supposed to feel sorry for them when their master started pulling on their leash too hard in regards to Greenland. Fuck you Denmark 

    19. I’m honestly in awe at the idea that a government thinks they could effectively ban encrypted messengers. It’s not that hard to build one especially with there being multiple open source projects out there. Best case scenario they have a catch all crime they can charge anyone who wants privacy for the right and the wrong reasons after they have a look at their phone…

    20. Southern_Gur_4736 on

      The Danish Minister of Justice is totally erroneous in his perception of basic European values and our right to privacy.

    21. maxis2bored on

      He’s a public official. Yet the public has no oversight to his on duty messages.
      We’re the private public. Yet he wants oversight to our private lives?

      My dirty laundry is none of his business. Someone needs to remind this fuckhead who he works for.

      _Luigi Intensifies_

    22. Commune-Designer on

      So here’s the thing: I’ll start to downvote these articles, since our current way to reward the discussion by upvotes clearly gives platform to opinions, we don’t want to support. This is the logic of attention economy. It’s not always easy to find the desired opinion to start an opinion or keep it going, but it will never be, if we don’t get better at this.

      Please be with me in this.

    23. KN_Knoxxius on

      What a jackass. §72 of the Danish Constitution protects the right to privacy. The government cannot look into your mail, phone calls, texts or emails without a warrant. And here he is pretending it is not a civil liberty at all. He is trampling on our freedoms.

      How can we be erroneous when our very constitution gives us the right?

    24. BubbleRabble1981 on

      Dude apparently needs to be schooled in Article 7 of the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights.

    25. Article 15 of the Italian Constitution clearly states that all forms of communication between 2 people have to remain private.

      Despite this, our government supports this abomination, probably having the same idiotic opinion as the Danish Minister of Justice.

      This statement is honestly appalling, the government shouldn’t have a say on how 2 people communicate. It’s also not just about control, but also about personal safety… Once the message goes out to the Internet, everyone could potentially sniff and/or modify the cleartext. The Internet is built around public infrastructure that isn’t at all secure, cryptography is absolutely needed in order to protect communications.

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