It’s a bit of a long read but it makes some interesting points how deregulating the building process really only suits the cash per square meter return not the humans per square meter housed.
Jean_Rasczak on
More apartments and more units will release pressure
No matter what is done people will moan and complain and come up with all sorts of „what if“
Some apartments will be smaller, some will be bigger
hmmm_ on
Most 2-bed apartments I know of are occupied by couples or retirees, with families gravitating towards 3-beds. You can’t assume that 2 beds will house 8 people (2 families), and studios only 1. Not everything revolves around families and the needs of families, single people and couples need somewhere to live also.
TigNaGig on
The regulatory cycle:
* We must learn the lessons against building ghettos and shoebox tenements, it costs way more in the long run. We will introduce regulations to ensure it never happens again.
* These pesky regulations are impeding profits. Think how much more we could be making if we did away with them and built shoebox bedsits with communal toilets & kitchens. Those green spaces could be used for more apartments. They don’t need commercial spaces for shops & cafe’s, more shoeboxes. They can walk 3km to the nearest shops.
* We need to demolish that warzone, it’s devaluing the properties for miles around. It’s cost way more in policing, therapists, courts and jails than we saved. We should introduce regulations to ensure it never happens again…
GlorEUW on
i am sorry but i must be missing something, this article is terrible.
1. Never address the obvious rebuke that the reason that smaller apartments have a higher return is that they are simply in way higher demand. they are the cheapest rentals on the market, and hundreds of thousands of young working people and immigrants moving here working in skilled labour want these 1 bed apartments, so this means they can get away with charging more. if you build a rake of them the price will eventually come down.
2. the „density of studio being worse than 2 beds if the 2 beds are all full“ is just insane. a. people WANT to live alone, so people either have to suck it up and get a roommate they dont want, or b. they will rent out a 2 bed on there own and just suck up paying the insane rent. how did this get past an editor.
for my own sanity i am assuming this is a NIMBY doing their fake „well obviously i support building, but just not this specific building, if we just had another meeting…“ bs
Jean_Rasczak on
Maybe stick to the topic
Dont think anyone is looking for advice from a stranger online, I certainly wasn’t
👍
ScaldyBogBalls on
Orla Hegarty had basically the same article on the journal 2 months ago. Her history as a complete and utter headmelter is on full show here, blinkered, myopic view of housing with only ideal situations and profiles factored in. Same woman who wanted schools shut tight for covid until they could be HVAC retrofitted.
-j-o-s-e-p-h- on
Do the people writing this stuff ever think it through step by step?
The reason studios command more per square metre is because there is a higher demand for them than for two beds, which is being artificially limited by these rules.
By the line of reasoning in the article, if the rules were taken off not a single 2 bed apartment would ever be built again.
Can someone please reassure me that the author has not based her calculations re occupancy density by equating a two bed to being a couple and two children while a studio can only contain a single person and not a couple.
More nimby let them eat cake carry on as usual. These investors getting their evil rocks off by providing people with what they want most must be crushed.
The misuse of land by having normal low rise housing causing massive urban sprawl, and lack of a land value tax to counteract this, is the destructive force that is ultimately mostly causing the severe lack of housing and homeless children. Coupled with the de facto ban on tall buildings, overly arduous regs etc.
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It’s a bit of a long read but it makes some interesting points how deregulating the building process really only suits the cash per square meter return not the humans per square meter housed.
More apartments and more units will release pressure
No matter what is done people will moan and complain and come up with all sorts of „what if“
Some apartments will be smaller, some will be bigger
Most 2-bed apartments I know of are occupied by couples or retirees, with families gravitating towards 3-beds. You can’t assume that 2 beds will house 8 people (2 families), and studios only 1. Not everything revolves around families and the needs of families, single people and couples need somewhere to live also.
The regulatory cycle:
* We must learn the lessons against building ghettos and shoebox tenements, it costs way more in the long run. We will introduce regulations to ensure it never happens again.
* These pesky regulations are impeding profits. Think how much more we could be making if we did away with them and built shoebox bedsits with communal toilets & kitchens. Those green spaces could be used for more apartments. They don’t need commercial spaces for shops & cafe’s, more shoeboxes. They can walk 3km to the nearest shops.
* We need to demolish that warzone, it’s devaluing the properties for miles around. It’s cost way more in policing, therapists, courts and jails than we saved. We should introduce regulations to ensure it never happens again…
i am sorry but i must be missing something, this article is terrible.
1. Never address the obvious rebuke that the reason that smaller apartments have a higher return is that they are simply in way higher demand. they are the cheapest rentals on the market, and hundreds of thousands of young working people and immigrants moving here working in skilled labour want these 1 bed apartments, so this means they can get away with charging more. if you build a rake of them the price will eventually come down.
2. the „density of studio being worse than 2 beds if the 2 beds are all full“ is just insane. a. people WANT to live alone, so people either have to suck it up and get a roommate they dont want, or b. they will rent out a 2 bed on there own and just suck up paying the insane rent. how did this get past an editor.
for my own sanity i am assuming this is a NIMBY doing their fake „well obviously i support building, but just not this specific building, if we just had another meeting…“ bs
Maybe stick to the topic
Dont think anyone is looking for advice from a stranger online, I certainly wasn’t
👍
Orla Hegarty had basically the same article on the journal 2 months ago. Her history as a complete and utter headmelter is on full show here, blinkered, myopic view of housing with only ideal situations and profiles factored in. Same woman who wanted schools shut tight for covid until they could be HVAC retrofitted.
Do the people writing this stuff ever think it through step by step?
The reason studios command more per square metre is because there is a higher demand for them than for two beds, which is being artificially limited by these rules.
By the line of reasoning in the article, if the rules were taken off not a single 2 bed apartment would ever be built again.
Can someone please reassure me that the author has not based her calculations re occupancy density by equating a two bed to being a couple and two children while a studio can only contain a single person and not a couple.
More nimby let them eat cake carry on as usual. These investors getting their evil rocks off by providing people with what they want most must be crushed.
The misuse of land by having normal low rise housing causing massive urban sprawl, and lack of a land value tax to counteract this, is the destructive force that is ultimately mostly causing the severe lack of housing and homeless children. Coupled with the de facto ban on tall buildings, overly arduous regs etc.