Mein BF aus Südkorea kam 30.08.25 nach Deutschland und hatte gestern seine Ernennung im Büro der Ausländer. Wir haben tatsächlich eine Reise in die Niederlande geplant wie vor 1 Woche und jetzt sehen wir das. Was sollen wir tun? Ich meine, könnte er mit seinem Touristenvisum (90 Tage) ohne diese Erlaubnis reisen?
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Von j0516_
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You should check this with the foreigners office. I would guess you cannot travel with this in the papers, but could have exceptions because Netherlands is EU. Either way you need to contact them and maybe apply for approval to travel.
you should look at this thread: [https://www.reddit.com/r/germany/comments/16tnt9g/does_a_fiktionsbescheinigung_override_a_tourist/](https://www.reddit.com/r/germany/comments/16tnt9g/does_a_fiktionsbescheinigung_override_a_tourist/)
Similar situation, and as assumed, the Fiktionsbescheinigung does not invalidate your rights to travel the EU if granted via tourist visa.
The Ausländerbehörde generally does not recommend travelling outside germany with the Fiktionsbescheinigung, as youre risking not necessarily being allowed to re-enter. In this case, the tourist visa should.
It says that leaving the country is not allowed
To be 100% sure you should ask the Ausländerbehörde which issued the document. It might be the case that the Fiktionsbescheinigung takes priority over the 90d travel visa, and that the visa is no longer effective. This might depend on the purpose for which the Fiktionsbescheinigung was issued, which understandably you may not want to post publicly online. It’s difficult to say with any certainty what applies to his case without all of the details.
With Germany’s increased border controls, you shouldn’t rule out the possibility of document control when re-entering Germany, even from the Netherlands.
Also, it may be good to know for the future that the Fiktionsbescheinigung is only valid in combination with a passport. AND even with an Aufenthaltstitel, it is necessary to also have your passport when traveling outside of Germany, even while staying within the Shengen zone!
Although certain European ID cards suffice for EU citizens, non-citizen residents can only fly with their Passport. I almost learned this the hard way… Don’t be like me 🙂
your bf is not allowed to work or leave the country. which means, if he does anyway, he will not be allowed back in germany.
what is more important to you? your bf beign with you for one week in the netherlands or your bf being with you for i dont know how long in germany (probably more than a week, but I dont know your life tbh)
what you should do: cancel the trip to the netherlands (and go somewhere in germany if you want to go somewhere), or go to the netherlands and look for a different nation to life. those are your two options