Finally! A little bit of common sense from the gop. So what’s up with those Epstein files?
DeepFuckingKoopa on
how about he takes that energy and directs it towards being disgusted that trump was banging kids with his buddy jeff
BlueDragon101 on
Huh, good for him.
Global_Crew3968 on
Thom Thillis just voted with nearly every other Republican Senator to kill the release of the Epstein Files. He is just as much of a pedo loving traitor as the rest of them.
Agreeable_Bother_510 on
I’m glad to see this. Even if the guy was “left” it sure as hell doesn’t mean “the left did it”. A MAN did it. We. Don’t. Need. This. Divisiveness!
ZumMitte185 on
But didn’t this declaration occur prior to this, by Trump himself when threatening sending troops to Chicago? Didn’t that disgust him?
Akimbo_Zap_Guns on
Thomas massie also said today that Trump needs to tone down his rhetoric. Unfortunately this is what I feared the most with a 2nd Trump term is that there would be no more “cooler heads” to prevail if some crisis hit and depending on what happens after the Kirk incident well we shall see if that fear is justified or not.
notanNSAagent89 on
Hmm some slight decency
_bits_and_bytes on
Huh, I’m surprised a member of the GOP said this. I wonder if he’s either up for reelction and needs the independent vote or if he’s retiring
…
Oh look at that. He’s retiring. Now it makes sense
Succubus-Love on
Yea the „Conservatives“ saying that extreme craziness, those are the fascists that hijacked your party, exposing themselves.
When there are no other enemies left, they will start going after you because you’re not like them. Right now you’re just a convenient ally, because you both want power in the same places. But Fascists don’t share so, good luck with that when „our team vs their team“ becomes „ok, were the only team left, so who here is worthy & who is no longer useful.“
Remember the previous VP? Is he still around? Nope.
Ever hear the term RINO (Republican in Name Only) before? same thing.
Why do you think January 6th 2021 gets talked about so much? History will eventually look back at that happening, as the moment Conservatism fell & Fascism took the reigns of the Republican Party.
History is fucking wild when you know just exactly what you’re witnessing, as it happened. Crazy.
sigmaluckynine on
Finally some logical sense from a Republican. Too bad there’s not enough of this today
Naga_Nej on
They should be angry that the guy who demaned the release of the Epstein file got killed. He is one of them, demanding what they want but still see the left as the perpetrator though there are no evidence for that and it could be an inside job.
NamesNotNeededToWork on
MAGA is itching for civil war. This has only been fuel for them.
capaho on
Declaring war on whom? The shooter hasn’t been identified yet so nothing is known about him or what motivated the shooting.
Strong-Rise6221 on
If Republicans want to honor Charlie Kirk they should release the Epstein Files as he wanted.
StrengthThin9043 on
These dissenting people in the GOP will eventually be purged. They cling on there by still voting as Trump commands, but at some point this type of speak won’t be tolerated either. It’s when the transformation to a all-through fascist party is completed.
LawlessLumberLord on
Then why did you ask for it?!?
Dry-University797 on
Thanks Tom. Only a little to late.
Choice-of-SteinsGate on
I might have disagreed with Kirk on just about everything, and I’m not going to sugarcoat it, he was a mouthpiece for this corrupt administration, a bigot and Christian nationalist who inflamed racial and political tensions. He was no hero of mine, but he didn’t deserve this.
What happened to Kirk was unforgivable. Political violence begets more violence and breeds more division and chaos.
But now his supporters are jumping to conclusions about the shooter’s motive and ideology, even though no credible information about the suspect has been released.
The hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance is baffling. On the one hand, many conservatives are responding to this incident with charged rhetoric of their own and calls for swift, violent retribution against their political opponents who they’ve instinctively blamed for the horrific actions of a single individual.
On the other hand, these same people have continuously downplayed or ignored countless other similar tragedies in the past involving culprits that have been radicalized by far right conspiracy theories, propaganda, and online extremist networks.
The fact remains—domestic extremism in the US is committed disproportionately by right wing radicals.
But conservatives overlook this fact while they prematurely speculate about these incidents to get out in front of those facts and control the narrative.
It appears that they are more interested in politicizing deaths like Kirk’s to reinforce and justify their hatred for their perceived enemies.
These conservatives are exploiting Kirk’s death to portray him as a martyr and victim of „radical left violence“ without knowing the facts or without acknowledging the role that right wing extremists have played in this history of political violence and division.
It should also go without saying that they do not see this as an opportunity to address the underlying causes that contribute to gun violence in America.
> „Charlie Kirk… said during an organizational event on Wednesday that gun deaths in exchange for the preservation of Second Amendment rights is part of America’s reality.“
Ya, that’s pretty surreal…
And while this act alone was indefensible, Kirk represents just one of a chilling number of gun deaths in this country. He is not the first victim of political violence, nor will he be the last.
When a white male radicalized by far right dogma attacks and/or murders a democratic lawmaker and their family in their own home; opens fire on school children, federal buildings or minorities in a supermarket, the response is to downplay widely recognized systemic issues while decrying „mental illness“ and offering meaningless thoughts and prayers.
But when a transgender gunman or a black man is involved in a high profile crime or shooting, it’s an issue of race, gender or leftist ideology, despite the fact that these individuals have obvious mental health problems that transcend race, gender or politics.
I’d argue that these conservative hypocrites don’t have a whole lot of sympathy for the victims of these tragedies. In some cases, they’re treated more like political props than anything else.
I think there’s a tendency from conservatives to politicize these attacks to justify their animosity, or their bigotry towards the communities of people they demean and vilify on a daily basis.
They’re eager to exploit these incidents to perpetuate certain stereotypes and push narratives that associate immigrants, minorities, the LGBTQ community, Muslims and their political opponents with violence, „domestic terrorism“ and criminality.
They’re the ones manipulating these stories and capitalizing off of these victim’s traumatic experiences or deaths to incite violence and validate right-wing grievances—often resorting to the use of stigmatizing and fearmongering messaging that fans the flames of division.
They take excessive liberties in these situations to demonize and scapegoat out-groups and marginalized communities of people, and all while ignoring systemic issues and the growing number of incidents of political violence and extremism committed by the far right.
At the same time, the Republicans in power that they continue to elect have done next to nothing to address the underlying, root causes of crime, widespread gun violence and mental health problems among Americans especially.
In fact, Republicans are actively defunding and dismantling the programs, community support structures, social services, agencies, organizations and operations that monitor, manage and try to address these issues.
And let’s make something perfectly clear. Federalizing the military and local law enforcement to occupy the streets of cities around the country where Trump’s political opposition is most prevalent, is *NOT* how you even begin to address the root causes of crime and gun violence.
With all of that said, it is without question that this culture and political climate of hostility, violence and extremism is primarily a consequence of Donald Trump’s frequent use of inflammatory and divisive rhetoric, his cruelty, his assault on democratic norms, his constant politicizing of every issue, his normalizing of revenge as a political tool, his weaponization of the federal government, and his faux populist appeals to hate groups and their many grievances.
The claims that there are a huge demographic of liberals who actually want a civil war with red America are just not true. The reason I know it’s not true is evidenced by the events of 6.17.2025.
Blue America is distraught and angry about 7 months of the Trump presidency. ICE raids have sparked a huge protest in LA. The CA national guard has been nationalized against the wishes of the Governor. A few days later are huge protests planned across the country.
People heading to the protests awoke to the news that 2 Minnesota lawmakers were murdered along with their spouses and dog. Millions of these people then attended protests in every major city, as well as cities big and small across the nation, In blue and red states.
Were there calls for violent retribution? Were there violent mobs roving the streets looking for conservatives? Were there calls for civil war from the protestors?
No. They simply wanted to voice their displeasure with the way Trump has been governing. There were no major issues or riots at any of the protests that day.
The left mobilized millions onto the streets and manage to keep it peaceful. There absolutely are some radicals who are willing to do crazy things of course, but the vast majority just want to live peaceful lives under a just and fair government.
RoughDragonfly4374 on
„OMG I can’t believe conservatives are reactionary bloodthirsty dickholes. I am so disgusted!“
Please.
jedihopfe on
Interesting how they forgot about attacks on Democrats or even their own when they don’t have proof about the assailant in Order to use it as an excuse.
RoyalHomework786 on
Meaningless words. He is guilty for leading us to this point. Fuck him.
Successful-Trash-409 on
There is already a cold civil war happening tho. Look at how democrats are being purged from the military leadership and DC bureaucracy. The GOP complaining rings hollow. They create the tension. None of this was going down during Biden. Cons can eat a D with their callout of the dems when they are pushing the real violence.
TheGOPisTheDeepState on
Will still fall inline and continue regressing the country. There was a school shooting the same day…where’s the outrage at that? Also, release the Epstein files you pedophile protecting asshats.
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As you should be
cool, now wheres the epstein list?
Finally! A little bit of common sense from the gop. So what’s up with those Epstein files?
how about he takes that energy and directs it towards being disgusted that trump was banging kids with his buddy jeff
Huh, good for him.
Thom Thillis just voted with nearly every other Republican Senator to kill the release of the Epstein Files. He is just as much of a pedo loving traitor as the rest of them.
I’m glad to see this. Even if the guy was “left” it sure as hell doesn’t mean “the left did it”. A MAN did it. We. Don’t. Need. This. Divisiveness!
But didn’t this declaration occur prior to this, by Trump himself when threatening sending troops to Chicago? Didn’t that disgust him?
Thomas massie also said today that Trump needs to tone down his rhetoric. Unfortunately this is what I feared the most with a 2nd Trump term is that there would be no more “cooler heads” to prevail if some crisis hit and depending on what happens after the Kirk incident well we shall see if that fear is justified or not.
Hmm some slight decency
Huh, I’m surprised a member of the GOP said this. I wonder if he’s either up for reelction and needs the independent vote or if he’s retiring
…
Oh look at that. He’s retiring. Now it makes sense
Yea the „Conservatives“ saying that extreme craziness, those are the fascists that hijacked your party, exposing themselves.
When there are no other enemies left, they will start going after you because you’re not like them. Right now you’re just a convenient ally, because you both want power in the same places. But Fascists don’t share so, good luck with that when „our team vs their team“ becomes „ok, were the only team left, so who here is worthy & who is no longer useful.“
Remember the previous VP? Is he still around? Nope.
Ever hear the term RINO (Republican in Name Only) before? same thing.
Why do you think January 6th 2021 gets talked about so much? History will eventually look back at that happening, as the moment Conservatism fell & Fascism took the reigns of the Republican Party.
History is fucking wild when you know just exactly what you’re witnessing, as it happened. Crazy.
Finally some logical sense from a Republican. Too bad there’s not enough of this today
They should be angry that the guy who demaned the release of the Epstein file got killed. He is one of them, demanding what they want but still see the left as the perpetrator though there are no evidence for that and it could be an inside job.
MAGA is itching for civil war. This has only been fuel for them.
Declaring war on whom? The shooter hasn’t been identified yet so nothing is known about him or what motivated the shooting.
If Republicans want to honor Charlie Kirk they should release the Epstein Files as he wanted.
These dissenting people in the GOP will eventually be purged. They cling on there by still voting as Trump commands, but at some point this type of speak won’t be tolerated either. It’s when the transformation to a all-through fascist party is completed.
Then why did you ask for it?!?
Thanks Tom. Only a little to late.
I might have disagreed with Kirk on just about everything, and I’m not going to sugarcoat it, he was a mouthpiece for this corrupt administration, a bigot and Christian nationalist who inflamed racial and political tensions. He was no hero of mine, but he didn’t deserve this.
What happened to Kirk was unforgivable. Political violence begets more violence and breeds more division and chaos.
But now his supporters are jumping to conclusions about the shooter’s motive and ideology, even though no credible information about the suspect has been released.
The hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance is baffling. On the one hand, many conservatives are responding to this incident with charged rhetoric of their own and calls for swift, violent retribution against their political opponents who they’ve instinctively blamed for the horrific actions of a single individual.
On the other hand, these same people have continuously downplayed or ignored countless other similar tragedies in the past involving culprits that have been radicalized by far right conspiracy theories, propaganda, and online extremist networks.
The fact remains—domestic extremism in the US is committed disproportionately by right wing radicals.
But conservatives overlook this fact while they prematurely speculate about these incidents to get out in front of those facts and control the narrative.
It appears that they are more interested in politicizing deaths like Kirk’s to reinforce and justify their hatred for their perceived enemies.
These conservatives are exploiting Kirk’s death to portray him as a martyr and victim of „radical left violence“ without knowing the facts or without acknowledging the role that right wing extremists have played in this history of political violence and division.
It should also go without saying that they do not see this as an opportunity to address the underlying causes that contribute to gun violence in America.
> „Charlie Kirk… said during an organizational event on Wednesday that gun deaths in exchange for the preservation of Second Amendment rights is part of America’s reality.“
Ya, that’s pretty surreal…
And while this act alone was indefensible, Kirk represents just one of a chilling number of gun deaths in this country. He is not the first victim of political violence, nor will he be the last.
When a white male radicalized by far right dogma attacks and/or murders a democratic lawmaker and their family in their own home; opens fire on school children, federal buildings or minorities in a supermarket, the response is to downplay widely recognized systemic issues while decrying „mental illness“ and offering meaningless thoughts and prayers.
But when a transgender gunman or a black man is involved in a high profile crime or shooting, it’s an issue of race, gender or leftist ideology, despite the fact that these individuals have obvious mental health problems that transcend race, gender or politics.
I’d argue that these conservative hypocrites don’t have a whole lot of sympathy for the victims of these tragedies. In some cases, they’re treated more like political props than anything else.
I think there’s a tendency from conservatives to politicize these attacks to justify their animosity, or their bigotry towards the communities of people they demean and vilify on a daily basis.
They’re eager to exploit these incidents to perpetuate certain stereotypes and push narratives that associate immigrants, minorities, the LGBTQ community, Muslims and their political opponents with violence, „domestic terrorism“ and criminality.
They’re the ones manipulating these stories and capitalizing off of these victim’s traumatic experiences or deaths to incite violence and validate right-wing grievances—often resorting to the use of stigmatizing and fearmongering messaging that fans the flames of division.
They take excessive liberties in these situations to demonize and scapegoat out-groups and marginalized communities of people, and all while ignoring systemic issues and the growing number of incidents of political violence and extremism committed by the far right.
At the same time, the Republicans in power that they continue to elect have done next to nothing to address the underlying, root causes of crime, widespread gun violence and mental health problems among Americans especially.
In fact, Republicans are actively defunding and dismantling the programs, community support structures, social services, agencies, organizations and operations that monitor, manage and try to address these issues.
And let’s make something perfectly clear. Federalizing the military and local law enforcement to occupy the streets of cities around the country where Trump’s political opposition is most prevalent, is *NOT* how you even begin to address the root causes of crime and gun violence.
With all of that said, it is without question that this culture and political climate of hostility, violence and extremism is primarily a consequence of Donald Trump’s frequent use of inflammatory and divisive rhetoric, his cruelty, his assault on democratic norms, his constant politicizing of every issue, his normalizing of revenge as a political tool, his weaponization of the federal government, and his faux populist appeals to hate groups and their many grievances.
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The claims that there are a huge demographic of liberals who actually want a civil war with red America are just not true. The reason I know it’s not true is evidenced by the events of 6.17.2025.
Blue America is distraught and angry about 7 months of the Trump presidency. ICE raids have sparked a huge protest in LA. The CA national guard has been nationalized against the wishes of the Governor. A few days later are huge protests planned across the country.
People heading to the protests awoke to the news that 2 Minnesota lawmakers were murdered along with their spouses and dog. Millions of these people then attended protests in every major city, as well as cities big and small across the nation, In blue and red states.
Were there calls for violent retribution? Were there violent mobs roving the streets looking for conservatives? Were there calls for civil war from the protestors?
No. They simply wanted to voice their displeasure with the way Trump has been governing. There were no major issues or riots at any of the protests that day.
The left mobilized millions onto the streets and manage to keep it peaceful. There absolutely are some radicals who are willing to do crazy things of course, but the vast majority just want to live peaceful lives under a just and fair government.
„OMG I can’t believe conservatives are reactionary bloodthirsty dickholes. I am so disgusted!“
Please.
Interesting how they forgot about attacks on Democrats or even their own when they don’t have proof about the assailant in Order to use it as an excuse.
Meaningless words. He is guilty for leading us to this point. Fuck him.
There is already a cold civil war happening tho. Look at how democrats are being purged from the military leadership and DC bureaucracy. The GOP complaining rings hollow. They create the tension. None of this was going down during Biden. Cons can eat a D with their callout of the dems when they are pushing the real violence.
Will still fall inline and continue regressing the country. There was a school shooting the same day…where’s the outrage at that? Also, release the Epstein files you pedophile protecting asshats.