Nein, Charlie Kirk praktizierte keine Politik nicht richtig

„The right way“ and it’s basically nothing but smash cuts of gish galloping and flustering college freshmen for gotcha clips and soundbites. Murder sucks but treating him like some paragon of debate is rewriting history.

The right wing makes media personalities of stochastic terrorists. Kirk was a stochastic terrorist, and no one but his family should mourn him.

„The Left“ aka, anyone who’s not a right-winger, won’t bow, so now Trump wants to use force.

This was always the plan.

In 3 years, if we still exist, remember this the next time Republicans clutch their pearls. And ignore them.

Any trans person, immigrant, person of color, any of those groups could have told the establishment media that. TPUSA has become a tool for harassment, especially towards trans people as I have seen in person when Riley Gaines went to the school that I attend as a grad student, solely to harass trans students. Charlie Kirk was a person who caused great harm, and there are a lot of people who won’t shed a tear seeing him get the harm they sent their way back to him. Not saying it’s moral, but as I’ve said before, if someone like Lia Thomas had been killed instead (assuming she hasn’t already considered her being out of the public eye for 4 years), Charlie would be the first person to cheer for her death just like he and his cronies did for Charlotte Fosgate, George Floyd, etc.

If you want to be a legitimate journalist, ask the people he’s hurt about how they feel about his passing.

MAGA declaring war on half of America when they don’t even know who the shooter is pretty telling on how fucking stupid and gullible they all are.

He was basically rehashing the talking points of the US Nazi party that was active in the 60s but focused on young white men as his audience.

I’m amazed how the similarities are and that he was let in on some of these campuses.

Just another right wing grifter.

I’m sorry the guy is dead, but he spent the last decade doing whatever he could to murder the concept of good faith debate in this country.

TPUSA helped bring our politics to this terrible place, and the „debate“ tactics they helped popularize are why creationists/flat earthers/general science deniers also get traction nowadays. Rather than evaluate actual evidence, people are trained to just react — which means affect and poise are paramount, nothing more. Because, let’s be clear, Kirk was not a good debater at all — he knew the ideological judo throws required to seemingly disarm his opponents, but he was more of a mesmerist than a debater. He knew how to produce the illusion of ideological strength and soundness, but it was just layers of smoke cast over base biases at any cost. He knew how to look smart *and* be a know-nothing at the same time.

Ultimately, I think that the right will seek to make him a martyr but ultimately fail to do so, as he is just more blood in the gutter at this point. And that’s sucks. It sucks that a bunch of children and a politico got shot on the same day and it’ll just be subsumed by the crimson tide of violence and political spite. It sucks that one side is going to point fingers at the other while wielding the cudgel against them.

I’m sick of hearing his shitty supporters tell us he was just sharing opinions

No he wasn’t. He was sprouting his beliefs and didn’t care who that hurt.

It’s hard to give good faith responses to a man whose entire operation was a demonstration of bad faith argument tactics.

Yo. What the fuck was Ezra thinking when he wrote that???

The same people who endlessly critique what slogans protestors use, or how they protest, will tell you guys that spend their entire life calling for the death of all Palestinians, Trans people, minorities and women who need health care are practicing politics right. As always, the elite class cares more about how you say something than what you are saying.

His last interactions say it all. He both pretends an outsized number of mass shootings are committed by transpeople and pretends the number of mass shootings is inflated by gang violence (*wink wink* black people)

Audience Member: Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years?

Kirk: Too many.

Audience Member: The answer is five. Now, five is a lot. Do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last 10 years?

Kirk: Counting or not counting gang violence?

Wow! I had no idea he was so involved and invested in J6. He was a criminal too. Just like trump. No wonder trump is politicizing his death to his advantage and to reawaken his J6 violence squad.

He was an influencer, not a politician

What happened to Kirk was unacceptable. Political violence begets more violence and breeds division and chaos.

And now his supporters are jumping to conclusions despite there being no credible information about the shooter’s motive or ideology.

The hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance is baffling. On the one hand, many conservatives are responding to this incident with charged rhetoric of their own and calls for swift, violent retribution against their political opponents who they instinctively blame for the horrific actions of a single individual.

On the other hand, these same people have continuously downplayed or ignored countless other similar tragedies in the past involving culprits that have been radicalized by far right conspiracy theories, propaganda, and online extremist networks.

The fact remains—domestic extremism in the US is committed disproportionately by right wing radicals.

But conservatives overlook this fact while they prematurely judge these incidents to get out in front of those facts and control the narrative.

It appears that they are more interested in politicizing deaths like Kirk’s to reinforce and justify their hatred for their perceived enemies.

These conservatives are exploiting Kirk’s death to portray him as a martyr and victim of „radical left violence“ without knowing the facts or without acknowledging the role that right wing extremists have played in this history of political violence and division.

It should also go without saying that they do not see this as an opportunity to address the underlying causes that contribute to gun violence in America.

> „Charlie Kirk… said during an organizational event on Wednesday that gun deaths in exchange for the preservation of Second Amendment rights is part of America’s reality.“

Ya, that’s pretty surreal…

And while this outcome was abhorrent, Kirk is one of a chilling number of gun deaths in this country. He is not the first victim of political violence, nor will he be the last.

When a white male radicalized by far right dogma attacks and/or murders a democratic lawmaker and their family in their own home; opens fire on school children, federal buildings or minorities in public, the response is to downplay widely recognized systemic issues while decrying „mental illness“ and offering meaningless thoughts and prayers.

But when a transgender gunman or a black man is involved in a high profile crime, it’s an issue of race, gender or leftist ideology, despite the fact that these individuals have obvious mental health problems that transcend race, gender or politics.

I’d argue that these hypocrites don’t have a whole lot of sympathy for the victims of these tragedies. In some cases, they act more like political props to them.

I think there’s a tendency from conservatives to politicize these tragic events to justify their animosity, or their bigotry towards the communities of people they demean and vilify on a daily basis.

They have no ground to stand on.

They’re eager to exploit these incidents to perpetuate certain stereotypes and spread narratives that associate immigrants, minorities, the LGBTQ community, Muslims and their political opponents with violence, „domestic terrorism“ and criminality.

They’re the ones manipulating these stories and taking advantage of these victim’s traumas or deaths to incite violence, validate their grievances, and to push stigmatizing, fearmongering messaging that inflames racial and political tensions.

They take excessive liberties in these situations to demonize and scapegoat out-groups and marginalized communities of people—and all while ignoring broader, systemic issues and the overwhelming numbers of incidents of political violence and extremism committed by the far right.

And the Republicans in power that they continue to elect have done absolutely nothing to address the underlying, root causes to systemic gun violence and crime and pervasive mental health problems among Americans especially.

In fact, Republicans are actively defunding and dismantling the programs, community support structures, social services, agencies, organizations and operations that monitor, manage and try to address these issues.

While let’s make something perfectly clear. Federalizing the military and local law enforcement to occupy the streets of areas around the country where Trump’s political opposition is most prevalent, is NOT how you even begin to address the root causes of crime and gun violence.

And it must be stated that this culture and political climate of hostility, violence, extremism and conflict is primarily an outcome of Donald Trump’s frequent use of inflammatory and divisive rhetoric, his cruelty, his assault on democratic norms, his constant politicizing of every issue, his normalization of revenge as a political tool, his weaponization of the federal government, and his faux populist appeals to the many grievances of hate groups.

That wasn’t politics. It was a modern age social media click bait rage bait money making operation. Literally did nothing to improve any lives but his own.

Are we still talking about this guy? Not even close to the saddest act of violence that day, let alone week, month or year. Show me some files, end the genocide, or pass some gun control measures, then we can talk about the value of this one guys life.

The white washing and doxxing of anyone who criticizes him is so ridiculous. The dude was an asshole. He shouldn’t have been murdered. But he was still an asshole.

He cherry picked clips of himself debating college freshmen with no debate training and his media outlet posted them as “Charlie Kirk DESTROYS college liberal with FACTS and LOGIC”

Anyone pretending that’s remotely constructive political discourse is an idiot. He was a professional shit stirrer.