If we go by logic, he should be removed from the university and kicked off the course, just like those who celebrated the death of George Floyd…
ConsistentMajor3011 on
> In messages seen by The Telegraph, Mr Abaraonye posted: “Charlie Kirk got shot, let’s f—ing go”
Lonely_Coconut_1970 on
„I think empathy is a made-up, new age term that — it does a lot of damage.“
-Charlie Kirk
AdOrdinary232 on
A man was murdered for words. That should be an affront to anyone who values speech and debate. Unfortunately, I’m not the least surprised by this.
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DigbyGibbers on
Some truly disgusting people are showing their true colours today.
SnooHamsters8952 on
I’m prepared to offer as much sympathy to Charlie Kirk as he himself offered to victims of school shootings.
parasoralophus on
Literally in that debate he said „you should be allowed to say outrageous things“.
SunflowerDuck104 on
The most stupid part of this is that he posted it in a WhatsApp group full of freshers.
shiatmuncher247 on
Celebrating? id sooner be scared. The retaliation for ain’t going to be pretty, trump/vance are in office for another 3.5 years
Rossmci90 on
I don’t agree with killing people you disagree with, and I don’t agree with celebrating the killing of people for their politics.
However, Charlie Kirk was a free speech absolutist and said it was OK for people to say outrageous things. He would support this.
Necessary-Product361 on
I wonder if the Telegraph reports when someone celebrates the deaths of thousands of Palestinian children?
Nooms88 on
I don’t particularly care for Charlie Kirk, I actually think he’s a prick and that based on his comment that some Deaths are worth it to protect the 2nd amendment, I think there’s an almost karmic justice to him being a victim of it, few people would disagree that rather an absolutionist than a school child, if things magically worked like that, which they obviously don’t…
But real world talk rather than fantasy land, it’s another example of political violence which seems to be escalating and this will further inflame it, further lead to polarisation and lack of good faith debate, political trends in the USA have a nasty habit of spilling over here
Thandoscovia on
Kid is a prick and should know better. Being allowed to be a prick is a right
Fenrir-The-Wolf on
ITT: Deeply disturbed individuals.
I’ve no fucking idea why I persist with using this website.
Thandoscovia on
I never liked his views for the most part. Despite that, he made a name for himself by sitting down and debating with people. By using words to encourage his supporters and debate his detractors. That’s commendable and a way of reaching out
To be murderer during a debate, while chatting with people is just so heinous
ReallySubtle on
Yeah right, keep telling yourselves you’re fighting fascism, rejoicing in the assassination of a man for his ideas. That’s what fighting fascism is
CaptainVaticanus on
Society is fucked if we are celebrating the death of a glorified podcaster.
if they celebrate his death for his politics it means that they would celebrate the death of anyone that agrees with him
Chi1dishAlbino on
So if I’m not mistaken:
Charlie Kirk spent the better part of a decade excusing and minimising shootings in the United States, claimed gun deaths are “worth it”, called empathy a weakness, and actively encouraged violence in the form of calling Paul Pelosi’s attacker a “hero”, & claiming that January 6th was not an insurrection attempt.
We don’t know the motivations of the shooter, but it strikes me that Charlie Kirk created the exact kind of atmosphere where a political assassination would be minimised. He even said that shootings should not be hijacked for political causes, but should be recognised as a natural part of living in the US.
I struggle to feel empathy for the man. I recognise his wife has lost a husband, and children have lost a father, and my heart really goes out to them, but Kirk himself wouldn’t want any empathy or compassion to his own death – at least judging from how he treated others’. The killing was completely unnecessary and an evil act for someone to commit.
And this student seemingly celebrated the shooting, not the killing, but both are unjustifiable actions and I hope there’s some form of reprisals involved.
BugPsychological4836 on
They had a perfectly reasonable discussion a few weeks ago the fact this young man cheered on his assasination is troubling
We need to stop pretending that Charlie Kirk wasn’t a violent man, that he was killed for „having different opinions“, that he was just a polite guy that wanted to debate.
Charlie Kirk advocated for violence. Not direct violence but systemic, civic violence. A violence that is far more sinister, yet far more normalised.
When Charlie Kirk said that abortions are worse than the Holocaust, with the rest of his advocacy to outlaw abortion, he is advocating for a system that leaves pregnant women to die at home or on hospital beds, because their pregnancy when necrotic and a doctor is too scared to abort the dead fetus out of fear of prosecution. This is violence, this has already resulted in deaths, far more deaths than the one that was taken away yesterday.
When Charlie Kirk advocates for wider access to guns, he advocates for a system that allows mass murders to happen in school daily. This is violence.
When Charlie Kirk dismisses the brutality in Palesitne as a necessity of war and a factor of Israels self defense, he’s creating a culture where these deaths continue. This is violence.
Charlie Kirk was more than just some online personality. The Trump Admin credits him to winning the vote. He’s flown private jets with Trump and Vance. He had more influence in the party than any online weirdo could. That’s why Trump flew the flag half-mast whilst he had nothing to say about the two democrat law makers assassinated in their homes earlier this year. Kirk defended Pelosis‘ attacker.
Kirk was part of an admin that had two nazi salutes thrown at inauguration. Charlie Kirk was responsible for helping an admin that black bags legal citizens to send them off to foreign death camps win. He obfuscated this black bagging by calling them illegal, when they’re verifiably not. That is systemic violence.
Charlie Kirk was a violent man. Violent thoughts lead to violent words which lead to violent actions. A violent man, that promoted violence, was killed by violence.
sylezjusz on
He actually [debated Kirk](https://youtu.be/mlh_GfHmwts?si=FKWt0mF3tC48kEFN&t=3996). Imagine meeting someone, talking to them, looking them in the eye, pretending to be civilised and not long after cheering his death. Lowlife behaviour.
RobCarrol75 on
It’s what a gun loving, woke hating Charlie Kirk would have wanted
Electronic-Trip8775 on
Celebrating his death is free speech personified…he would have loved it.
deyterkourjerbs on
Guys, a 21 year old we don’t know said something on their private Instagram account. What are we going to do about it?
LV1872 on
Looking at the comments here, there is a good fucking reason the left struggle in the UK, and thank god for it.
CatGoblinMode on
I think we should honour Kirk by carrying on his message…
We should shun the sin of empathy. It’s what he’d want.
doctorgibson on
He’s probably celebrating because he can’t win the debate any other way
Tartan_Samurai on
*In messages seen by The Telegraph, Mr Abaraonye posted: “Charlie Kirk got shot, let’s f—ing go” – a common celebratory phrase among Gen Z.*
*Another message, believed to be on the student’s Instagram account, stated “Charlie Kirk got shot loool”, an exaggeration of the abbreviation “laughing out loud”.*
The Terriblegraph really pitching this one to a specific audience.
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If we go by logic, he should be removed from the university and kicked off the course, just like those who celebrated the death of George Floyd…
> In messages seen by The Telegraph, Mr Abaraonye posted: “Charlie Kirk got shot, let’s f—ing go”
„I think empathy is a made-up, new age term that — it does a lot of damage.“
-Charlie Kirk
A man was murdered for words. That should be an affront to anyone who values speech and debate. Unfortunately, I’m not the least surprised by this.
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Some truly disgusting people are showing their true colours today.
I’m prepared to offer as much sympathy to Charlie Kirk as he himself offered to victims of school shootings.
Literally in that debate he said „you should be allowed to say outrageous things“.
The most stupid part of this is that he posted it in a WhatsApp group full of freshers.
Celebrating? id sooner be scared. The retaliation for ain’t going to be pretty, trump/vance are in office for another 3.5 years
I don’t agree with killing people you disagree with, and I don’t agree with celebrating the killing of people for their politics.
However, Charlie Kirk was a free speech absolutist and said it was OK for people to say outrageous things. He would support this.
I wonder if the Telegraph reports when someone celebrates the deaths of thousands of Palestinian children?
I don’t particularly care for Charlie Kirk, I actually think he’s a prick and that based on his comment that some Deaths are worth it to protect the 2nd amendment, I think there’s an almost karmic justice to him being a victim of it, few people would disagree that rather an absolutionist than a school child, if things magically worked like that, which they obviously don’t…
But real world talk rather than fantasy land, it’s another example of political violence which seems to be escalating and this will further inflame it, further lead to polarisation and lack of good faith debate, political trends in the USA have a nasty habit of spilling over here
Kid is a prick and should know better. Being allowed to be a prick is a right
ITT: Deeply disturbed individuals.
I’ve no fucking idea why I persist with using this website.
I never liked his views for the most part. Despite that, he made a name for himself by sitting down and debating with people. By using words to encourage his supporters and debate his detractors. That’s commendable and a way of reaching out
To be murderer during a debate, while chatting with people is just so heinous
Yeah right, keep telling yourselves you’re fighting fascism, rejoicing in the assassination of a man for his ideas. That’s what fighting fascism is
Society is fucked if we are celebrating the death of a glorified podcaster.
if they celebrate his death for his politics it means that they would celebrate the death of anyone that agrees with him
So if I’m not mistaken:
Charlie Kirk spent the better part of a decade excusing and minimising shootings in the United States, claimed gun deaths are “worth it”, called empathy a weakness, and actively encouraged violence in the form of calling Paul Pelosi’s attacker a “hero”, & claiming that January 6th was not an insurrection attempt.
We don’t know the motivations of the shooter, but it strikes me that Charlie Kirk created the exact kind of atmosphere where a political assassination would be minimised. He even said that shootings should not be hijacked for political causes, but should be recognised as a natural part of living in the US.
I struggle to feel empathy for the man. I recognise his wife has lost a husband, and children have lost a father, and my heart really goes out to them, but Kirk himself wouldn’t want any empathy or compassion to his own death – at least judging from how he treated others’. The killing was completely unnecessary and an evil act for someone to commit.
And this student seemingly celebrated the shooting, not the killing, but both are unjustifiable actions and I hope there’s some form of reprisals involved.
They had a perfectly reasonable discussion a few weeks ago the fact this young man cheered on his assasination is troubling
[https://youtu.be/mlh_GfHmwts?si=SrdQeFJ__sh0SCnR&t=4002](https://youtu.be/mlh_GfHmwts?si=SrdQeFJ__sh0SCnR&t=4002)
We need to stop pretending that Charlie Kirk wasn’t a violent man, that he was killed for „having different opinions“, that he was just a polite guy that wanted to debate.
Charlie Kirk advocated for violence. Not direct violence but systemic, civic violence. A violence that is far more sinister, yet far more normalised.
When Charlie Kirk said that abortions are worse than the Holocaust, with the rest of his advocacy to outlaw abortion, he is advocating for a system that leaves pregnant women to die at home or on hospital beds, because their pregnancy when necrotic and a doctor is too scared to abort the dead fetus out of fear of prosecution. This is violence, this has already resulted in deaths, far more deaths than the one that was taken away yesterday.
When Charlie Kirk advocates for wider access to guns, he advocates for a system that allows mass murders to happen in school daily. This is violence.
When Charlie Kirk dismisses the brutality in Palesitne as a necessity of war and a factor of Israels self defense, he’s creating a culture where these deaths continue. This is violence.
Charlie Kirk was more than just some online personality. The Trump Admin credits him to winning the vote. He’s flown private jets with Trump and Vance. He had more influence in the party than any online weirdo could. That’s why Trump flew the flag half-mast whilst he had nothing to say about the two democrat law makers assassinated in their homes earlier this year. Kirk defended Pelosis‘ attacker.
Kirk was part of an admin that had two nazi salutes thrown at inauguration. Charlie Kirk was responsible for helping an admin that black bags legal citizens to send them off to foreign death camps win. He obfuscated this black bagging by calling them illegal, when they’re verifiably not. That is systemic violence.
Charlie Kirk was a violent man. Violent thoughts lead to violent words which lead to violent actions. A violent man, that promoted violence, was killed by violence.
He actually [debated Kirk](https://youtu.be/mlh_GfHmwts?si=FKWt0mF3tC48kEFN&t=3996). Imagine meeting someone, talking to them, looking them in the eye, pretending to be civilised and not long after cheering his death. Lowlife behaviour.
It’s what a gun loving, woke hating Charlie Kirk would have wanted
Celebrating his death is free speech personified…he would have loved it.
Guys, a 21 year old we don’t know said something on their private Instagram account. What are we going to do about it?
Looking at the comments here, there is a good fucking reason the left struggle in the UK, and thank god for it.
I think we should honour Kirk by carrying on his message…
We should shun the sin of empathy. It’s what he’d want.
He’s probably celebrating because he can’t win the debate any other way
*In messages seen by The Telegraph, Mr Abaraonye posted: “Charlie Kirk got shot, let’s f—ing go” – a common celebratory phrase among Gen Z.*
*Another message, believed to be on the student’s Instagram account, stated “Charlie Kirk got shot loool”, an exaggeration of the abbreviation “laughing out loud”.*
The Terriblegraph really pitching this one to a specific audience.