“Too many”, Kirk answered, eliciting loud cheers from the crowd.
“The answer is five”, the questioner continued. “Now, five is a lot, I’ll give you credit, but do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last 10 years?” he added.
Kirk sought to clarify the question: “Counting or not counting gang violence?” he asked. At that very moment, a single shot rang out across the crowd, delivering a wound to Kirk’s neck that would prove fatal.
In many ways, Kirk went to his grave at the age of 31 in exactly the way that he lived: unshakeable in his determination that Trump’s “Make America Great Again” movement is leading the country towards a great moment of national revival.
The canopy under which he was sitting bore the slogan “American Comeback”. He died wearing a white T-shirt with the word “FREEDOM” emblazoned in block capitals.
At the White House, there was shock as news of the shooting spread. One staffer gasped after seeing the first newsflash on her phone, and raced into the building, in her haste alerting members of the press corps to the attack.
Trump took to social media, first to call for prayers for Kirk, then – less than two hours later – to announce his death. The President knows that he may not have won the keys to the Oval Office in 2016, much less returned to the seat of American power last January, had it not been for Kirk’s “Turning Point USA” movement and its mobilisation of hundreds of thousands of young voters.
Worse than that, he can also be accused of orchestrating and fuelling a febrile political atmosphere across the country in which political discourse is now pockmarked by the President’s own violent language, his loathing of his opponents, and – in January 2021 – his support for a mob that engaged in a deadly rampage on Capitol Hill.
In an Oval Office address posted on Truth Social on Wednesday evening, Trump calling Kirk “a martyr for truth and freedom”, and said rhetoric from the “radical left” was “directly responsible for the terrorism that we’re seeing in our country today”.
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working hard to scrub those comments!
AINonsense on
So are ICE and martial law by fiat.
Adventurous_Test_296 on
Political speech in America is hardly noticeable if it isn’t noisy, and extreme even if it makes sense. Say something often enough, and loud enough it might get you killed as we are seeing.
Eridanosvoid on
The literal nano second after it was announced Charlie Kirk was shot (before he was pronounced dead even) they automatically blamed the „radical left“ with zero proof what so ever.
We will see who the shooter turns out to be, but the immediate and tactless desire to blame the shooter as a radical is telling.
From all the evidence gathered this was a professional hit. I’m not saying a hired hitman yet, but the shooter was clearly skilled to kill Kirk and so far evade the FBI. He might not even be in the country anymore. But yes, please tell me which radical lefitsts do you know that can do this?
EllyKayNobodysFool on
It’s disgusting hearing so many people say Kirk was a good person when he actively called for violence against others and was a SUPPORTER of school shootings.
invalidpassword on
Trump’s vitriol is a *huge* part of it.
RipErRiley on
“part of it” is putting it lightly.
Kaosi1 on
Did we all forget January 6th or something
RatedM477 on
„Part of“? More like the largest catalyst for it.
deadhead4ever on
FBI releases a profile of shooter saying he is probably an illegal trans immigrant Cartel member, released from a South American prison, possibly named Juan (goes by Juanita), who robs and murders white people for fun, while competing and winning multiple gold medals in woman’s sports and uses his Biden supplied Medicare to get gender transforming surgery while transporting tractor trailer loads of fentanyl across the Canadian border and illegally voting multiple times for Biden in at least 9 states.
Hyhyy on
Kirk got killed same day Epstein files got voted to be blocked in senate.
How low can the orange manbaby go low?
thedeadcricket on
Part of it? You mean the cause of it?
PlsSuckMyToes on
Trump and the right’s entire platform has become violence. Sending ICE and the national guard to blue cities to threaten their opposition. Trump and the right is always promoting violence and hate, but the second the left wants to say „hey this dead guy was still a piece of shit“ it is all gasps from them.
whatsgoingon350 on
The media love this they spend so much time radicalising people that when this shit happens they make so much money.
Hungry_Investment_41 on
the values he spread while alive.
• Gay people should be stoned to death
• Most people are scared when they see a black pilot flying a plane
• Taylor Swift should reject feminism and submit to her husband
• No one should be allowed to retire
• Leftists should not be allowed to move to red states
• British Colonialism was what „made the world decent“
• The guy who assaulted the Pelosi’s should be bailed out
• Religious freedom should be terminated
• Multiple black politicians „stole white people’s spots“
• MLK Jr was „an awful person“
• The Great Replacement Theory is reality
• Hydroxychloroquine cures COVID
• Vaccine requirements are „medical apartheid“
• Guns deaths are acceptable in order to have a 2nd amendment
• Women’s natural place is under their husband’s control
• Parents should prevent their daughters from taking birth control
• George Floyd had it coming, the Jan 6th protestors didn’t
• The 1964 Civil Rights Act was a „huge mistake“
• Encouraged parents to protest mask mandates
• Mamdani winning in NY was a travesty because Muslims did 9/11
• Muslims only come to America to destabilize Western Civilization
• Palestine „doesn’t exist“ and those who support it are like the KKK
General_Pie_5026 on
Part of it? Try all of it.
Harmony_Sound on
How about that list
uhohnotafarteither on
If nothing else, at a time like this, the president should be a calming voice who tries to deescalate the situation.
We all know Trump will be the furthest from that
nerdybynature on
It’s the cause of it
Rombledore on
for the conservatives here- i don’t recall dems shouting how we should declare war on the right *when they murdered a democract elected representative* a few weeks back.
you can bet your bottom dollar that the people in control of the media machine are **celebrating** his murder as the opportunity for division that it is. when pelosi’s husband was attacked there were no calls for violence to the right. when a politician was murdered there was no calls for violence to the right. when democracy was attacked on Jan 6 there were still no calls for violence to the right.
but your propaganda masters saw this tragic event and decided- whoo boy, time to RAMP. IT. UP.
America is cooked and your sports team like obsession with „your side“ is the reason for it.
NPVT on
Trump is not just part of it. He is central to it.
cmfred on
It is the Christians. They have some power, they believe they have won, and they will inflict suffering on all of us.
Plastic_Ad_8248 on
The video that the White House put out last night of Trump addressing his death is an AI video. at 21 seconds you can see the AI shift. Why would they do that?
I heard he died of a fentanyl overdose. Getting shot in the neck was just sheer coincidence.
Peachy33 on
Why do I think this is an inside job?
I’m waiting for the arrest of the patsy.
BlueCyann on
Seems a bit much to talk about political violence as response to Kirk’s murder when there’s no suspect and no motive. I’m not trying to put any kind of percentage likelihood on it, but people with a political profile do get „assassinated“ sometimes (in quotes because the word implies political motive all by itself) by people with a more personal grudge. Or by parasocial stalkers, things like that.
Again, not particularly trying to say it’s likely. Only that the desire to get ahead of the story and analyze when you don’t even know the facts is more than a little bit annoying.
Inspectorgadget4250 on
Trump now has his Martyr. Americans don’t deserve what comes next
Adventurous_Bake6176 on
The orange face of political violence just lectured the country on incendiary rhetoric.
Jorumvar on
The right just want a martyr to justify their bloodlust and need for violence. Democratic leaders are calling for an end to political violence and denouncing this murder. It doesn’t matter.
The way they are absolutely GLAZING the memory of this asshole just so they can claim that “the best most beautiful soul” was destroyed.
therealvladimir_0 on
💯….look at was has changed and occurred the past 9 years and the catalyst has been the orange turd.
pinetreesgreen on
Part of it? The dirty old man is the Pied Piper. He must be giddy. I wouldn’t rule out someone in his administration planned it.
antilittlepink on
Another mass shooting has torn through America, and before the victims’ families have even had time to process the horror, it’s being hijacked for political gain. Elon Musk jumped online to brand “the left the party of murderers” before anyone even knew who the shooter was. That’s not just reckless, it’s intentional provocation. It’s designed to inflame divisions, deepen hatred, and push an already fragile country closer to the cliff of political violence. Musk has repeatedly echoed pro-Putin talking points, and now he’s feeding the same narrative of chaos and destabilisation that benefits America’s enemies abroad.
Trump has already pointed the finger at “the radical left,” despite zero evidence about the shooter’s motives. This is exactly how disinformation works: facts are irrelevant, what matters is seeding a story that his followers will cling to regardless of reality. It’s the same tactic Russia uses with propaganda, say it loud, say it often, and drown out the truth until the lie becomes the only thing people hear.
The hypocrisy is staggering. Just weeks ago, a MAGA extremist assassinated a Democratic state legislator, her husband, and even their dog, left another lawmaker wounded, and carried a kill list with dozens more Democrats. Trump and the Republican establishment said nothing. No outrage. No condemnation. Silence. The “pro-life” movement only finds its voice when violence can be twisted into a weapon against their political opponents. When it’s their own side pulling the trigger, they pretend it never happened.
If you wanted to design an artificial intelligence to dismantle America from within, to corrode trust, amplify hatred, paralyse democracy, and hand power to hostile regimes like Russia and China, you would program it to behave exactly like Trump and his enablers. The lies, the scapegoating, the encouragement of violence, the protection of extremists, the undermining of elections, the parroting of foreign propaganda, it’s the perfect blueprint for national self-destruction.
N3wAfrikanN0body on
Why is it „being a good person“ for chosen authoritarians entail being morally inferior, anti-intellectual, bigoted, misogynistic, and calling for the annihilation of those who are „other“?
Why do you NEED to desperately see the Human in the deliberately anti-Human?
AtticaBlue on
Part of it? When it’s coming from the top, that means he’s *leading* it.
No-Adhesiveness2509 on
“Part of it”…if that isn’t the understatement of the year I don’t know what is.
justmejw on
Trump’s vitriol isn’t part of it, it’s (he is) the root cause.
MoeSzyslakMonobrow on
The real tragedy from yesterday is the school shooting in Colorado is barely a blip in the news.
rtfry4 on
Part?!?!?
gigglefarting on
I want to preface this by saying that I do not condone violence.
However, when you ask someone to prove you wrong that gun violence is worth the price of ownership, and you refuse to listen to someone’s verbal argument, then how did you expect to be proven wrong? The shot was the argument. The shot was the proof.
Also, don’t be willing to impart a debt onto society (like the cost of life for the protection of guns) that you’re not willing to pay.
VictorVonToon on
The killing was a government job to fan the flames of civil violence so martial law can be declared in time for the elections and to distract from the Epstein-Trump files.
Campus full of kids recording Charlie Kirk and not one got a look at the shooter?
Bullshit.
Buddha-Embryo on
The political hatred and social disintegration in this country was ramped up wildly after Trump came on the scene. No, he didn’t create all of it, but he made it incomparably worse. This current climate of violence is directly attributable to Trump.
As far as Kirk is concerned, would he have included himself in the sentiment that gun violence is the price we have to pay for the 2nd amendment? I would imagine he would not have. So elementary school kids getting massacred is an acceptable cost…but the loss of his life was not?
thecrunchypepperoni on
Weird how we didn’t seem to have armed gunman at politically-affiliated events until mid-2024. Commentators like Rogan and Kirk have always been annoying, and a little loud, but nobody on the left side ever suggested they would assassinate anyone. In fact, the Republican Party and the right used this stereotype against the left. “Leftists don’t own guns lolz! You guys would never win a civil war!”
Now, all the sudden, leftists are being branded as murderous vigilantes who need their firearms taken away. The narrative has shifted, and it all comes back to a guy who’s terrified of being found out for raping children.
The likelihood that Kirk was killed by the very people he built his fan base around would not surprise me.
ClassOptimal7655 on
I seem to recall Trump saying something about how he could shoot someone in the streets and his supporters would not care.
yeah….
inactivemember99 on
Trumps entire campaign was demonizing the left.
Every fucking time he took to the podium and grabbed a mic i heard „radical left lunatics“
Fuck republicans, they knew what they voted for. They voted for a guy to worsen the division and spread hate.
I dont buy any of the „end political violence“ bullshit from the right.
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WASHINGTON DC – Charlie Kirk was in the middle of answering a question about gun violence in America when he [became its latest victim](https://inews.co.uk/news/trump-ally-charlie-kirk-shot-in-the-neck-at-rally-in-utah-3911292?ico=in-line_link) on Wednesday.
At the launch of his “Prove Me Wrong” national tour, he was inviting members of the 3,000-strong crowd to try to shift his faith in the core positions that animate President [Donald Trump](https://inews.co.uk/topic/donald-trump?srsltid=AfmBOopZyClpVA-jWGc5UAgACJqlNyufL6_L5zw-WtODyS-Q8a75x8HH&ico=in-line_link)’s “Make America Great Again” movement.
Twenty minutes into the event, a member of the audience was challenging [Kirk’s view](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/right-blame-gender-identity-not-guns-nashville-shooting-rcna76969) that “instead of banning assault rifles, we should ban gender-affirming care for kids”. “Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years?” the questioner asked.
“Too many”, Kirk answered, eliciting loud cheers from the crowd.
“The answer is five”, the questioner continued. “Now, five is a lot, I’ll give you credit, but do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last 10 years?” he added.
Kirk sought to clarify the question: “Counting or not counting gang violence?” he asked. At that very moment, a single shot rang out across the crowd, delivering a wound to Kirk’s neck that would prove fatal.
In many ways, Kirk went to his grave at the age of 31 in exactly the way that he lived: unshakeable in his determination that Trump’s “Make America Great Again” movement is leading the country towards a great moment of national revival.
The canopy under which he was sitting bore the slogan “American Comeback”. He died wearing a white T-shirt with the word “FREEDOM” emblazoned in block capitals.
At the White House, there was shock as news of the shooting spread. One staffer gasped after seeing the first newsflash on her phone, and raced into the building, in her haste alerting members of the press corps to the attack.
Trump took to social media, first to call for prayers for Kirk, then – less than two hours later – to announce his death. The President knows that he may not have won the keys to the Oval Office in 2016, much less returned to the seat of American power last January, had it not been for Kirk’s “Turning Point USA” movement and its mobilisation of hundreds of thousands of young voters.
Even so, having seen one of the leading lights of the American right cut down by a bullet, and having himself been the [victim of two attempted assassinations](https://inews.co.uk/opinion/second-trump-assassination-attempt-leaves-america-on-the-brink-3278750?srsltid=AfmBOooguyrUqF3N_YLwgfopthLB8-sjhxrSXdjSIpUvvbXqQsWsWuYf&ico=in-line_link) during last year’s election campaign, Trump still has no answers to offer those in America wondering how the country’s epidemic of political violence can be brought under control.
Worse than that, he can also be accused of orchestrating and fuelling a febrile political atmosphere across the country in which political discourse is now pockmarked by the President’s own violent language, his loathing of his opponents, and – in January 2021 – his support for a mob that engaged in a deadly rampage on Capitol Hill.
In an Oval Office address posted on Truth Social on Wednesday evening, Trump calling Kirk “a martyr for truth and freedom”, and said rhetoric from the “radical left” was “directly responsible for the terrorism that we’re seeing in our country today”.
working hard to scrub those comments!
So are ICE and martial law by fiat.
Political speech in America is hardly noticeable if it isn’t noisy, and extreme even if it makes sense. Say something often enough, and loud enough it might get you killed as we are seeing.
The literal nano second after it was announced Charlie Kirk was shot (before he was pronounced dead even) they automatically blamed the „radical left“ with zero proof what so ever.
We will see who the shooter turns out to be, but the immediate and tactless desire to blame the shooter as a radical is telling.
From all the evidence gathered this was a professional hit. I’m not saying a hired hitman yet, but the shooter was clearly skilled to kill Kirk and so far evade the FBI. He might not even be in the country anymore. But yes, please tell me which radical lefitsts do you know that can do this?
It’s disgusting hearing so many people say Kirk was a good person when he actively called for violence against others and was a SUPPORTER of school shootings.
Trump’s vitriol is a *huge* part of it.
“part of it” is putting it lightly.
Did we all forget January 6th or something
„Part of“? More like the largest catalyst for it.
FBI releases a profile of shooter saying he is probably an illegal trans immigrant Cartel member, released from a South American prison, possibly named Juan (goes by Juanita), who robs and murders white people for fun, while competing and winning multiple gold medals in woman’s sports and uses his Biden supplied Medicare to get gender transforming surgery while transporting tractor trailer loads of fentanyl across the Canadian border and illegally voting multiple times for Biden in at least 9 states.
Kirk got killed same day Epstein files got voted to be blocked in senate.
How low can the orange manbaby go low?
Part of it? You mean the cause of it?
Trump and the right’s entire platform has become violence. Sending ICE and the national guard to blue cities to threaten their opposition. Trump and the right is always promoting violence and hate, but the second the left wants to say „hey this dead guy was still a piece of shit“ it is all gasps from them.
The media love this they spend so much time radicalising people that when this shit happens they make so much money.
the values he spread while alive.
• Gay people should be stoned to death
• Most people are scared when they see a black pilot flying a plane
• Taylor Swift should reject feminism and submit to her husband
• No one should be allowed to retire
• Leftists should not be allowed to move to red states
• British Colonialism was what „made the world decent“
• The guy who assaulted the Pelosi’s should be bailed out
• Religious freedom should be terminated
• Multiple black politicians „stole white people’s spots“
• MLK Jr was „an awful person“
• The Great Replacement Theory is reality
• Hydroxychloroquine cures COVID
• Vaccine requirements are „medical apartheid“
• Guns deaths are acceptable in order to have a 2nd amendment
• Women’s natural place is under their husband’s control
• Parents should prevent their daughters from taking birth control
• George Floyd had it coming, the Jan 6th protestors didn’t
• The 1964 Civil Rights Act was a „huge mistake“
• Encouraged parents to protest mask mandates
• Mamdani winning in NY was a travesty because Muslims did 9/11
• Muslims only come to America to destabilize Western Civilization
• Palestine „doesn’t exist“ and those who support it are like the KKK
Part of it? Try all of it.
How about that list
If nothing else, at a time like this, the president should be a calming voice who tries to deescalate the situation.
We all know Trump will be the furthest from that
It’s the cause of it
for the conservatives here- i don’t recall dems shouting how we should declare war on the right *when they murdered a democract elected representative* a few weeks back.
you can bet your bottom dollar that the people in control of the media machine are **celebrating** his murder as the opportunity for division that it is. when pelosi’s husband was attacked there were no calls for violence to the right. when a politician was murdered there was no calls for violence to the right. when democracy was attacked on Jan 6 there were still no calls for violence to the right.
but your propaganda masters saw this tragic event and decided- whoo boy, time to RAMP. IT. UP.
America is cooked and your sports team like obsession with „your side“ is the reason for it.
Trump is not just part of it. He is central to it.
It is the Christians. They have some power, they believe they have won, and they will inflict suffering on all of us.
The video that the White House put out last night of Trump addressing his death is an AI video. at 21 seconds you can see the AI shift. Why would they do that?
https://youtu.be/ACMKVCTp79E?si=MkhPa1GWNyWHp2Fs
I heard he died of a fentanyl overdose. Getting shot in the neck was just sheer coincidence.
Why do I think this is an inside job?
I’m waiting for the arrest of the patsy.
Seems a bit much to talk about political violence as response to Kirk’s murder when there’s no suspect and no motive. I’m not trying to put any kind of percentage likelihood on it, but people with a political profile do get „assassinated“ sometimes (in quotes because the word implies political motive all by itself) by people with a more personal grudge. Or by parasocial stalkers, things like that.
Again, not particularly trying to say it’s likely. Only that the desire to get ahead of the story and analyze when you don’t even know the facts is more than a little bit annoying.
Trump now has his Martyr. Americans don’t deserve what comes next
The orange face of political violence just lectured the country on incendiary rhetoric.
The right just want a martyr to justify their bloodlust and need for violence. Democratic leaders are calling for an end to political violence and denouncing this murder. It doesn’t matter.
The way they are absolutely GLAZING the memory of this asshole just so they can claim that “the best most beautiful soul” was destroyed.
💯….look at was has changed and occurred the past 9 years and the catalyst has been the orange turd.
Part of it? The dirty old man is the Pied Piper. He must be giddy. I wouldn’t rule out someone in his administration planned it.
Another mass shooting has torn through America, and before the victims’ families have even had time to process the horror, it’s being hijacked for political gain. Elon Musk jumped online to brand “the left the party of murderers” before anyone even knew who the shooter was. That’s not just reckless, it’s intentional provocation. It’s designed to inflame divisions, deepen hatred, and push an already fragile country closer to the cliff of political violence. Musk has repeatedly echoed pro-Putin talking points, and now he’s feeding the same narrative of chaos and destabilisation that benefits America’s enemies abroad.
Trump has already pointed the finger at “the radical left,” despite zero evidence about the shooter’s motives. This is exactly how disinformation works: facts are irrelevant, what matters is seeding a story that his followers will cling to regardless of reality. It’s the same tactic Russia uses with propaganda, say it loud, say it often, and drown out the truth until the lie becomes the only thing people hear.
The hypocrisy is staggering. Just weeks ago, a MAGA extremist assassinated a Democratic state legislator, her husband, and even their dog, left another lawmaker wounded, and carried a kill list with dozens more Democrats. Trump and the Republican establishment said nothing. No outrage. No condemnation. Silence. The “pro-life” movement only finds its voice when violence can be twisted into a weapon against their political opponents. When it’s their own side pulling the trigger, they pretend it never happened.
If you wanted to design an artificial intelligence to dismantle America from within, to corrode trust, amplify hatred, paralyse democracy, and hand power to hostile regimes like Russia and China, you would program it to behave exactly like Trump and his enablers. The lies, the scapegoating, the encouragement of violence, the protection of extremists, the undermining of elections, the parroting of foreign propaganda, it’s the perfect blueprint for national self-destruction.
Why is it „being a good person“ for chosen authoritarians entail being morally inferior, anti-intellectual, bigoted, misogynistic, and calling for the annihilation of those who are „other“?
Why do you NEED to desperately see the Human in the deliberately anti-Human?
Part of it? When it’s coming from the top, that means he’s *leading* it.
“Part of it”…if that isn’t the understatement of the year I don’t know what is.
Trump’s vitriol isn’t part of it, it’s (he is) the root cause.
The real tragedy from yesterday is the school shooting in Colorado is barely a blip in the news.
Part?!?!?
I want to preface this by saying that I do not condone violence.
However, when you ask someone to prove you wrong that gun violence is worth the price of ownership, and you refuse to listen to someone’s verbal argument, then how did you expect to be proven wrong? The shot was the argument. The shot was the proof.
Also, don’t be willing to impart a debt onto society (like the cost of life for the protection of guns) that you’re not willing to pay.
The killing was a government job to fan the flames of civil violence so martial law can be declared in time for the elections and to distract from the Epstein-Trump files.
Campus full of kids recording Charlie Kirk and not one got a look at the shooter?
Bullshit.
The political hatred and social disintegration in this country was ramped up wildly after Trump came on the scene. No, he didn’t create all of it, but he made it incomparably worse. This current climate of violence is directly attributable to Trump.
As far as Kirk is concerned, would he have included himself in the sentiment that gun violence is the price we have to pay for the 2nd amendment? I would imagine he would not have. So elementary school kids getting massacred is an acceptable cost…but the loss of his life was not?
Weird how we didn’t seem to have armed gunman at politically-affiliated events until mid-2024. Commentators like Rogan and Kirk have always been annoying, and a little loud, but nobody on the left side ever suggested they would assassinate anyone. In fact, the Republican Party and the right used this stereotype against the left. “Leftists don’t own guns lolz! You guys would never win a civil war!”
Now, all the sudden, leftists are being branded as murderous vigilantes who need their firearms taken away. The narrative has shifted, and it all comes back to a guy who’s terrified of being found out for raping children.
The likelihood that Kirk was killed by the very people he built his fan base around would not surprise me.
I seem to recall Trump saying something about how he could shoot someone in the streets and his supporters would not care.
yeah….
Trumps entire campaign was demonizing the left.
Every fucking time he took to the podium and grabbed a mic i heard „radical left lunatics“
Fuck republicans, they knew what they voted for. They voted for a guy to worsen the division and spread hate.
I dont buy any of the „end political violence“ bullshit from the right.