„Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk said his country would formally request the invocation of NATO’s Article 4 in response to the violation of his country’s airspace by 19 Russian drones, some of which were shot down.“
ElderMillenialSage on
Rusians will keep pushing, until they are pushed back. Grow a spine, West – do fucking something.
Any-Original-6113 on
Poland will get a lot of advice.
This is where Europe is strong
malphasalex on
Oh no, they’ll have a meeting about it. Putin has really gone too far this time. They might have even two meeting to really send a message.
SirnCG on
And he said that a lot of this drones where directly from belarus to Poland, worth to mention btw.
Kernog on
That’s one step better then sending a strongly worded letter, so that is that. Unfortunately, provocations will continue unless an action, like an aerial exclusion zone, is decided.
Hitler took neither „no“ nor „yes, but“ as an answer, and neither will Putin.
SoSmartKappa on
>NATO’s Article 4 states: „The Parties will consult together whenever, in the opinion of any of them, the territorial integrity, political independence or security of any of the Parties is threatened.“
also
>NATO is **not** treating the drone incursion into Polish territory as an attack, a NATO source told Reuters on Wednesday
Probably nothing will come out of this i am afraid
Electrical_Quality_6 on
we must the attack on nato is started
15 shaheds flown through ukraine , soon hundreds then thousands
we need emergency war profuction efforts right fkking now
Trukken on
About time.
Signal_Confusion_644 on
Its here. Russians fucked NATO.
Nato should respond. Quick.
spitfire-haga on
„What you did, Mr. Putin, was really really bad. We beg you not to do it again.“
*Putin does it again*
„Ok, that’s it, mister! We’ve warned you! No ice cream for you today!“
Traditional_Meal7797 on
Oh my god, a meeting?! Will they dare to send a strong worded letter afterward?
LeastLeader2312 on
Well damn, that’s one number below 5, shit is getting super serial now.
Hopefully they actually do something to punish Russia
CyberKillua on
All these posts are so cringe, none of you saying invocate article 5 would fight in a war if you were asked.
Glittering-Gene7215 on
missclick, they wanted to press „5“. 4 and 5 are close to each other
(O_O)
Economy-Fox-5559 on
Of course we can expect Trump to be fully co operative and committed to taking this seriously along with his European counterparts. I’m sure he’ll *really* tell Putin off for this one… */s*
Longsock8 on
Russia continues to take the piss and make a laughing stock of NATO. All this does is play into Trumps agenda of making NATO look useless so they go begging to him for help, which in turn will give the orange turd his peace prize.
All this Russian aggression stems from Trump who has emboldened the enemies of the west to unite. Frankly Putin will not stop as he doesn’t see anyone as a serious threat.
OnCnditonOfAnonymity on
This never would’ve happened if TRUMP was president. Sorry, I just had to say it.
The_AmazingCapybara on
Let’s bring democracy to Russia
Localone2412 on
I maybe geographically challenged but looking at a map (google) how does Russia, even launching from Belarus, accidentally fly drones over Poland heading for Ukraine ? It seems much too far west.
Independent-Day-9170 on
Article 4 is „formal consultations with other member states“. Poland wants to ask the other member states what to do about their violent crackhead neighbor.
Article 5 is the „Shit’s Getting Real^(TM) “ one.
Fancy_Ad681 on
Poland is the last standing warden of the west. So much respect for Poland.
SmallGreenArmadillo on
Nato will do nothing, again, and then Russia will do something, again
Nith_ael on
Hate to be the „nothing ever happens“ guy, but I can’t wait for NATO members to unequivocally condemn Russia’s provocative actions and then go back home, content with a job well done
Be3Al2Si6O18-Cr on
Is it finally happening?
The strongly worded meeting that is…
MiiIRyIKs on
Please please please, I know it’s a risk but we can’t keep sending strongly worded letters, we need to do more, even if it leads to escalation, I hope something comes of this and honestly I trust that there’s some humanity left in all of us and even if we have a direct confrontation we won’t nuke each other to shit but maybe I’m naive
Old_Bike_4024 on
NATO members will find a way to brush this aside. No one wants a conflict now, considering the uncertainty with unpredictable Sam and his policies.
Fruitpicker15 on
Is article 4 a meeting plus an angry letter?
Andrew_M_ua on
no, you should be in trend. first exclude Poland from NATO. Then there is no basis for art.4 and 5. You don’t want to escalate, do you? Then generally find Poland guilty, because it provoked with its existence. Pay compensation for the downed shaheds.
arbicus123 on
Interesting how this has happened right after trump announced he will cut defense spending for the baltics and right before their joint military exercises with belarus
greenmood3 on
grow some balls.
Toffeljegarn on
Seeing as the travel route for the drones was from Belarus –> Poland, and not Russia –> Ukraine –> Polan, ids say it makes sense.
RDOmega on
I assume the fear is that triggering article 5 will either reveal U.S. as an axis power, damage NATO beyond recovery, soft kick off WWIII…… Or all three.
Russia wouldn’t be pushing its luck like this if it wasn’t ready to lay its cards on the table.
The question right now is if avoiding a hard war by losing a soft power war is a sound strategy.
Alarmed-Shopping1592 on
Should’ve sent farmers to block the drones on the border, smh
Shirolicious on
Alright that is good. Hopefully it will also lead to some sort of response. Doing nothing is a clear sign of weakness
JadedArgument1114 on
My daily stupid theory is that Russia wants to escalate this to the point that NATO starts getting kind of involved so that Putin can make peace and blame it on NATO involvement and not because the Russian military has gotten wrecked by Ukraine. You cant show weakness as a dictator and it makes no sense for Russia to want an actual fight with Europe because we would fucking wreck Russia. All they have is nukes but so we do we and no one wins a nuclear exchange.
ConsistentAide3165 on
I am with Poland no mater what
Druitp on
Giving Button 4 a read and its reall just nothing and more OH WE BETTER SEND ANOTHER LETTER !
hyakumanben on
Lenin once said, allegedly: „You probe with bayonets: if you find mush, you push. If you find steel, you withdraw.“
Will Europe finally show some steel? Stay tuned.
Apprehensive_Bus_543 on
If they only shot down 4 out of 19, where did the rest go?
new_g3n3rat1on on
So 19 drones is OK what about 39?
Straight_Document_89 on
Trump is to blame for this shit. The reason being is he has no balls to stand up to Putin. You can’t appease people like Putin. I guess history repeats when you don’t learn from it.
Loose-Interaction-23 on
I don’t know what game Russia is playing, but these are dangerous waters they are testing.
0Hyena_Pancakes0 on
Jesus, what a bunch of hungry couch pirates just aching for an all out war. Haven’t there been enough of those? Poland didn’t just take this, they shot the drones down. No wonder politicians are so easily able to manipulate the masses into fighting conflicts while they sit on their asses and count their gold.
Millions upon millions dying for 19 drones is not worth it what so ever, Russia is a pest, but starting world war three with them over 19 drones that did not attack would be disastrous and downright foolish. NATO is playing their cards right with this one.
Ventriloquist_Voice on
As it should be done since the first drone
RadlogLutar on
Bold of you to assume Orange will agree to this
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„Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk said his country would formally request the invocation of NATO’s Article 4 in response to the violation of his country’s airspace by 19 Russian drones, some of which were shot down.“
Rusians will keep pushing, until they are pushed back. Grow a spine, West – do fucking something.
Poland will get a lot of advice.
This is where Europe is strong
Oh no, they’ll have a meeting about it. Putin has really gone too far this time. They might have even two meeting to really send a message.
And he said that a lot of this drones where directly from belarus to Poland, worth to mention btw.
That’s one step better then sending a strongly worded letter, so that is that. Unfortunately, provocations will continue unless an action, like an aerial exclusion zone, is decided.
Hitler took neither „no“ nor „yes, but“ as an answer, and neither will Putin.
>NATO’s Article 4 states: „The Parties will consult together whenever, in the opinion of any of them, the territorial integrity, political independence or security of any of the Parties is threatened.“
also
>NATO is **not** treating the drone incursion into Polish territory as an attack, a NATO source told Reuters on Wednesday
Probably nothing will come out of this i am afraid
we must the attack on nato is started
15 shaheds flown through ukraine , soon hundreds then thousands
we need emergency war profuction efforts right fkking now
About time.
Its here. Russians fucked NATO.
Nato should respond. Quick.
„What you did, Mr. Putin, was really really bad. We beg you not to do it again.“
*Putin does it again*
„Ok, that’s it, mister! We’ve warned you! No ice cream for you today!“
Oh my god, a meeting?! Will they dare to send a strong worded letter afterward?
Well damn, that’s one number below 5, shit is getting super serial now.
Hopefully they actually do something to punish Russia
All these posts are so cringe, none of you saying invocate article 5 would fight in a war if you were asked.
missclick, they wanted to press „5“. 4 and 5 are close to each other
(O_O)
Of course we can expect Trump to be fully co operative and committed to taking this seriously along with his European counterparts. I’m sure he’ll *really* tell Putin off for this one… */s*
Russia continues to take the piss and make a laughing stock of NATO. All this does is play into Trumps agenda of making NATO look useless so they go begging to him for help, which in turn will give the orange turd his peace prize.
All this Russian aggression stems from Trump who has emboldened the enemies of the west to unite. Frankly Putin will not stop as he doesn’t see anyone as a serious threat.
This never would’ve happened if TRUMP was president. Sorry, I just had to say it.
Let’s bring democracy to Russia
I maybe geographically challenged but looking at a map (google) how does Russia, even launching from Belarus, accidentally fly drones over Poland heading for Ukraine ? It seems much too far west.
Article 4 is „formal consultations with other member states“. Poland wants to ask the other member states what to do about their violent crackhead neighbor.
Article 5 is the „Shit’s Getting Real^(TM) “ one.
Poland is the last standing warden of the west. So much respect for Poland.
Nato will do nothing, again, and then Russia will do something, again
Hate to be the „nothing ever happens“ guy, but I can’t wait for NATO members to unequivocally condemn Russia’s provocative actions and then go back home, content with a job well done
Is it finally happening?
The strongly worded meeting that is…
Please please please, I know it’s a risk but we can’t keep sending strongly worded letters, we need to do more, even if it leads to escalation, I hope something comes of this and honestly I trust that there’s some humanity left in all of us and even if we have a direct confrontation we won’t nuke each other to shit but maybe I’m naive
NATO members will find a way to brush this aside. No one wants a conflict now, considering the uncertainty with unpredictable Sam and his policies.
Is article 4 a meeting plus an angry letter?
no, you should be in trend. first exclude Poland from NATO. Then there is no basis for art.4 and 5. You don’t want to escalate, do you? Then generally find Poland guilty, because it provoked with its existence. Pay compensation for the downed shaheds.
Interesting how this has happened right after trump announced he will cut defense spending for the baltics and right before their joint military exercises with belarus
grow some balls.
Seeing as the travel route for the drones was from Belarus –> Poland, and not Russia –> Ukraine –> Polan, ids say it makes sense.
I assume the fear is that triggering article 5 will either reveal U.S. as an axis power, damage NATO beyond recovery, soft kick off WWIII…… Or all three.
Russia wouldn’t be pushing its luck like this if it wasn’t ready to lay its cards on the table.
The question right now is if avoiding a hard war by losing a soft power war is a sound strategy.
Should’ve sent farmers to block the drones on the border, smh
Alright that is good. Hopefully it will also lead to some sort of response. Doing nothing is a clear sign of weakness
My daily stupid theory is that Russia wants to escalate this to the point that NATO starts getting kind of involved so that Putin can make peace and blame it on NATO involvement and not because the Russian military has gotten wrecked by Ukraine. You cant show weakness as a dictator and it makes no sense for Russia to want an actual fight with Europe because we would fucking wreck Russia. All they have is nukes but so we do we and no one wins a nuclear exchange.
I am with Poland no mater what
Giving Button 4 a read and its reall just nothing and more OH WE BETTER SEND ANOTHER LETTER !
Lenin once said, allegedly: „You probe with bayonets: if you find mush, you push. If you find steel, you withdraw.“
Will Europe finally show some steel? Stay tuned.
If they only shot down 4 out of 19, where did the rest go?
So 19 drones is OK what about 39?
Trump is to blame for this shit. The reason being is he has no balls to stand up to Putin. You can’t appease people like Putin. I guess history repeats when you don’t learn from it.
I don’t know what game Russia is playing, but these are dangerous waters they are testing.
Jesus, what a bunch of hungry couch pirates just aching for an all out war. Haven’t there been enough of those? Poland didn’t just take this, they shot the drones down. No wonder politicians are so easily able to manipulate the masses into fighting conflicts while they sit on their asses and count their gold.
Millions upon millions dying for 19 drones is not worth it what so ever, Russia is a pest, but starting world war three with them over 19 drones that did not attack would be disastrous and downright foolish. NATO is playing their cards right with this one.
As it should be done since the first drone
Bold of you to assume Orange will agree to this