I think Article 5 is bullshit and whatever Russia does NATO won’t intervene.
*change my mind*
Rapiz on
Pussies, we should invoke article 5 and send drones straight into the Kremlin.
Make Russia scared again.
EINFACH_NUR_DAEMLICH on
Wrong attitude.
Nibb31 on
I wonder if Russia would just call it a „tomahawk incident“ if NATO „accidentally“ sent a few cruise missiles into Russia.
JohnDoe19151 on
Yes it was not an attack, they were friendly drones
Forsaken-Medium-2436 on
If that’s not escalation what is then?
Zealousideal_Use_400 on
They need to do a no fly zone over western ukraine. russia will just send more drones now
darealmoneyboy on
ofc they dont, otherwise they would neet to act. and thats something the NATO hates. at least since Trump came into office.
oh what? that makes the whole defense alliance somewhat laughable and is perfectly playing into Russia’s hands? yeah well too bad. Since the orange mini-hitler is in power, Europe can go fuck themselves. This is a perfect example for that. US is Russia’s bitch without Trump even noticing. Its actually hilarious how dumb the „leader of the free world“ is. Russia is testing us and gets proven right all the time: we are weak and we are afraid. both things we wouldnt have to be. but we chose to be that way.
Not to think what would happen if this was the US and not Poland having drones in their territories…..
experts say that russia will be capable of attacking the NATO eastern front in 2027 latest. they are testing us right now and they have all the information they need. but most importantly they see that we incapable of defending ourselves.
JaZoray on
why is russia so scared of ukraine joining nato if nato is useless
vkstu on
Oh good, so they can just keep doing this? /s
yellowbai on
If they did it would be WWIII. Let’s be real here despite all the rubbish on Reddit if Poland invoked the clause we’d be looking a true Third World war. No one wants that.
KadmonX on
This is very bad, because in the morning Poland called it an attack, and then NATO countries thought about it and decided not to call it an attack. I’m afraid Putin will go further in his „provocations“ in Poland 🙁
Szenbanyasz on
I honestly expected a better response ngl. It was very clearly intentional, they are probing for whatever. This was not one drone accidentally going there, or EW redirecting one. It was a small swarm intended to go to Poland. I’m not saying Russia wants to attack Poland or anything, but everything has a reason. They wanted to see the reaction.
mariuszmie on
As soon as any drone lands in the actual nato countries, the real Europe, like Austria, Germany or Denmark, then it is an attack and counters like Poland have to mobilize and help, otherwise, who cares, of course
Nato is turning out to be a repeat of 1939
OldMan1901 on
The article is bullshit TBH. The drones were shot down by Polish and Dutch airforce. Few other NATO measures were deployed. It is stated everywhere it is NATO airspace. So, the article is bullshit
dumpledops on
I expected nothing less and yet I am still disappointed
majakovskij on
I understand them, but I understand Putin’s logic too. He is gonna push slow, searching for this „red line“. He knows now he can send drones and nothing will happen. What about missiles? What if he hits a warehouse with those? What about power plant? What if 10 Russian soldiers walk through the border? What if 100? Etc.
Bloodbathandbeyon on
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CocoaKpopsTTV on
NATO wouldn’t treat a Russian attack as a Russian attack……
h_attila on
Great , why not just wave welcome signs at them 😂👋 , after some soldiers will crosa the border they say some of them lost in zapad exercises
valdecsgo on
So a enemy nation **SENDING** attack drones over the borders into a NATO country’s airspace is NOT an attack? What the fuck? This wasn’t just one drone barely scraping between the borders on accident, this was multiple attack drones **sent** into Poland **deliberately**, that were shot down, they didn’t even have time to return back to Russian airspace. So if this fucker sends a few attack helicopters, a jet or two, or drones over Alaska, so US airspace, that’s also just an oopsie daisy?
NATO has no fucking balls, and Putler is laughing his ass off in his palace about how absolutely useless the alliance is.
“Well would you fight in the war if NATO or Poland responded, and the war spread?“
Yes, I’m Finnish, I’ve done my conscription, and I’m a part of the FDF Reserves, so yes, yes i would fight in the war.
I Hate the fat orange bastard on the other side of the ocean so fucking much, but him forcing NATO countries into 5% spending on defense wasn’t as stupid as i thought. It was fucking brilliant, because its obvious NATO won’t do shit, so us having to spend more money on defense is a NECESSITY because of this psychopath dictator (The bald white one, not the orange one)
AstraMilanoobum on
I’m curious, what response do you want? Poland shot down the drones
I very much doubt Poland itself wants an escalation as they are the frontline and would be the ones dealing with retaliation.
Shooting the drones down is an appropriate response.
ProductGuy48 on
Sadly, every day Putin is just proven more and more right about NATO unity. At some point he will invade Latvia and cut off Estonia and by the time he is in Riga we will still be debating if this is an attack. If something like what happened yesterday with the drones happened during the Cold War all hell would break loose. And that’s for the very simple reason that deterrence was believable then, it isn’t now, and that is a catastrophic state of affairs.
Temo2212 on
NATO is literally blinding itself just to avoid conflict with russia. YET leftists say NATO wants war. I’m just curious how they went to this conclusion? What’s their argument?
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Of course, did anyone expect something else?
I think Article 5 is bullshit and whatever Russia does NATO won’t intervene.
*change my mind*
Pussies, we should invoke article 5 and send drones straight into the Kremlin.
Make Russia scared again.
Wrong attitude.
I wonder if Russia would just call it a „tomahawk incident“ if NATO „accidentally“ sent a few cruise missiles into Russia.
Yes it was not an attack, they were friendly drones
If that’s not escalation what is then?
They need to do a no fly zone over western ukraine. russia will just send more drones now
ofc they dont, otherwise they would neet to act. and thats something the NATO hates. at least since Trump came into office.
oh what? that makes the whole defense alliance somewhat laughable and is perfectly playing into Russia’s hands? yeah well too bad. Since the orange mini-hitler is in power, Europe can go fuck themselves. This is a perfect example for that. US is Russia’s bitch without Trump even noticing. Its actually hilarious how dumb the „leader of the free world“ is. Russia is testing us and gets proven right all the time: we are weak and we are afraid. both things we wouldnt have to be. but we chose to be that way.
Not to think what would happen if this was the US and not Poland having drones in their territories…..
experts say that russia will be capable of attacking the NATO eastern front in 2027 latest. they are testing us right now and they have all the information they need. but most importantly they see that we incapable of defending ourselves.
why is russia so scared of ukraine joining nato if nato is useless
Oh good, so they can just keep doing this? /s
If they did it would be WWIII. Let’s be real here despite all the rubbish on Reddit if Poland invoked the clause we’d be looking a true Third World war. No one wants that.
This is very bad, because in the morning Poland called it an attack, and then NATO countries thought about it and decided not to call it an attack. I’m afraid Putin will go further in his „provocations“ in Poland 🙁
I honestly expected a better response ngl. It was very clearly intentional, they are probing for whatever. This was not one drone accidentally going there, or EW redirecting one. It was a small swarm intended to go to Poland. I’m not saying Russia wants to attack Poland or anything, but everything has a reason. They wanted to see the reaction.
As soon as any drone lands in the actual nato countries, the real Europe, like Austria, Germany or Denmark, then it is an attack and counters like Poland have to mobilize and help, otherwise, who cares, of course
Nato is turning out to be a repeat of 1939
The article is bullshit TBH. The drones were shot down by Polish and Dutch airforce. Few other NATO measures were deployed. It is stated everywhere it is NATO airspace. So, the article is bullshit
I expected nothing less and yet I am still disappointed
I understand them, but I understand Putin’s logic too. He is gonna push slow, searching for this „red line“. He knows now he can send drones and nothing will happen. What about missiles? What if he hits a warehouse with those? What about power plant? What if 10 Russian soldiers walk through the border? What if 100? Etc.
NATO
Narcissists
Allergic
To
Offending
( Yes I know my country doesn’t even have a creditable airforce or army)
NATO wouldn’t treat a Russian attack as a Russian attack……
Great , why not just wave welcome signs at them 😂👋 , after some soldiers will crosa the border they say some of them lost in zapad exercises
So a enemy nation **SENDING** attack drones over the borders into a NATO country’s airspace is NOT an attack? What the fuck? This wasn’t just one drone barely scraping between the borders on accident, this was multiple attack drones **sent** into Poland **deliberately**, that were shot down, they didn’t even have time to return back to Russian airspace. So if this fucker sends a few attack helicopters, a jet or two, or drones over Alaska, so US airspace, that’s also just an oopsie daisy?
NATO has no fucking balls, and Putler is laughing his ass off in his palace about how absolutely useless the alliance is.
“Well would you fight in the war if NATO or Poland responded, and the war spread?“
Yes, I’m Finnish, I’ve done my conscription, and I’m a part of the FDF Reserves, so yes, yes i would fight in the war.
I Hate the fat orange bastard on the other side of the ocean so fucking much, but him forcing NATO countries into 5% spending on defense wasn’t as stupid as i thought. It was fucking brilliant, because its obvious NATO won’t do shit, so us having to spend more money on defense is a NECESSITY because of this psychopath dictator (The bald white one, not the orange one)
I’m curious, what response do you want? Poland shot down the drones
I very much doubt Poland itself wants an escalation as they are the frontline and would be the ones dealing with retaliation.
Shooting the drones down is an appropriate response.
Sadly, every day Putin is just proven more and more right about NATO unity. At some point he will invade Latvia and cut off Estonia and by the time he is in Riga we will still be debating if this is an attack. If something like what happened yesterday with the drones happened during the Cold War all hell would break loose. And that’s for the very simple reason that deterrence was believable then, it isn’t now, and that is a catastrophic state of affairs.
NATO is literally blinding itself just to avoid conflict with russia. YET leftists say NATO wants war. I’m just curious how they went to this conclusion? What’s their argument?
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